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High PR Backlinks - how aggressive can you be?

by GregT7
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Is it a bad idea to point high PR backlinks back to your site?

I have a list of them (PR5-7), but I am worried that if I point more than a few directly to my site I will incur Google's "Unnatural Links Penalty".

How aggressively can I go for my PR1 site that is just over a year old?

I suspect that just as it is a bad idea to point a lot of crappy links back to your site, it is also bad to point too many extremely good links back to your site.

Furthermore, should I have no more than one link from each site to my site, or should I only be wary about more than one link from a particular site to an individual page on my site?

Would it be safer to just backlink my existing backlinks and get the indirect link juice back to my site?

And would Google penalise me if a whole lot of my existing backlinks suddenly jump in PR?

Finally, does Google analyse the backlinks to your backlinks? So would it be bad for me if a large proportion of my backlinks have backlinks from a only a relatively small number of sites that are in common with each other?
#aggressive #backlinks #high
  • Profile picture of the author shashank
    It depends upon your overall link profile.....If you want to create backlinks from high PR webpages...by all means you can do that....But try to be slow and steady.....Don't create all the links at once.....Create them over time.....Also, try to use as many different anchor texts as possible....try to be natural in Google's eye.....
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    The best possible thing in SEO you can do is point high PR backlinks at your site. What concerns me about your post is how you believe you have "a list of them". Thats not how high PR backlinks usually work unless they are spammed out blog comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    I think you're a bit too worried about the almighty Google.

    "High PR" backlinks are generally pretty hard to obtain. So it's tough to create too many of them. I'm not quite sure what type of list you have, but remember, a backlink on a PR N/A page from a PR5 domain is not the same as a PR5 backlink. I see constant claims stating that they are, which is just wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post


      "High PR" backlinks are generally pretty hard to obtain. So it's tough to create too many of them.
      Lol no they are not, my lists are around 100k+ all with pagerank and dofollow. You can build too many of them and like i have mentioned in previous threads if you are spamming then it makes it ten times worse.

      There is now a huge margin for error with these types of links because they are indexed so quickly and likely to disappear or be deleted just as fast leaving a ton of dead links on your profile which, doesn't look natural.

      Op, if you have a list and you have never posted to them before then be really careful. You don't need alot of these links only 2/3 per week and the ones you do get need to stick almost indefinately otherwise Google will be on your back for sure and you can kiss your site goodbye.

      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      but remember, a backlink on a PR N/A page from a PR5 domain is not the same as a PR5 backlink. I see constant claims stating that they are, which is just wrong.
      Sometimes i think you miss the point completely. Relevance is they key not pagerank otherwise it's just high pagerank spam, the more relevent you are the better, preferably on a moderated blog then you have their blessings.
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

        Sometimes i think you miss the point completely. Relevance is they key not pagerank otherwise it's just high pagerank spam, the more relevent you are the better, preferably on a moderated blog then you have their blessings.
        We agree to disagree then. I've had zero issues with links from non-relevant sources. But then again I don't go out and mindlessly blast links on tons of sites. I mainly focus on low competition keywords and a smaller # of quality links.

        Relevancy is always great for the additional traffic it may bring in. But I'm definitely not going to pass on a PR1+ backlink from a non-relevant site when they're working just fine.
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        • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
          Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

          We agree to disagree then. I've had zero issues with links from non-relevant sources. But then again I don't go out and mindlessly blast links on tons of sites. I mainly focus on low competition keywords and a smaller # of quality links.

          Relevancy is always great for the additional traffic it may bring in. But I'm definitely not going to pass on a PR1+ backlink from a non-relevant site when they're working just fine.
          What I'm saying with this depends on the type of platform you use. Comment Luv for example is a great platform for commenting even if they are non relevant, as long as the comment is on topic, most of the blogs are moderated so you get a quality approved backlink.

          The thing is with other platforms like Drupal which, is probably what is in his list, is they are built completely differently. You need to register an account you have no name and url and it doesn't pull the feeds for your latest blog post.

          So what happens is you usually end up spamming the comment section. Even if the comment could be on topic and look great it still looks like horrible spam unless it's 100% relevant. They're usually auto approve so if you comment on a site and they don't agree with it then they will almost certainly complain to Google about it.

          Or if they remove your link the next day after Google has crawled it, then you end up with a spam profile. This update targets this type of spam the most, so you need to be really careful when commenting and be sure it's going to stick, thats why relevancy is better as it has more chance of sticking. It's not that pr0 links are better they're not.
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  • Profile picture of the author estz
    Could not agree more with the above comment, so many people claim nowadays that they have high PR backlinks when its actually only the homepage and the sub domains are all PR N/A or 0.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThatAblaze
    try not to send any more than 50 links to your site from a single domain. Keep the number of new links under 20/day. Do some more reading, the questions you are asking are not the questions that will lead you to a good answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by GregT7 View Post

    Is it a bad idea to point high PR backlinks back to your site?
    At the moment and ever since its the best thing to do. High pr sites linking to your money site gives you a lot more ranking power.

    How aggressively can I go for my PR1 site that is just over a year old?
    Just keep it nice, slow and steady. So long as you are not spammy i believe you should be safe even if you receive thousands of links per day. It just depend on how natural you make it seem.

    Furthermore, should I have no more than one link from each site to my site, or should I only be wary about more than one link from a particular site to an individual page on my site?
    One or two link is ok from a site. Getting too many links from one site does not really add to your link diversity, its more effective to get links from sites hosted on different servers.

    Would it be safer to just backlink my existing backlinks and get the indirect link juice back to my site?
    I guess what you are trying to say is "link pyramid". Fortunately, its a very good form of building links that a lot of people don't know or ignore. Its not only safe for your site but also the simplest way to get to the top of the search engine when done accurately.

    And would Google penalise me if a whole lot of my existing backlinks suddenly jump in PR?
    Again, if it is done right NO.

    Finally, does Google analyse the backlinks to your backlinks?
    It depends on what you mean by analyze but ofcourse, the search engine takes this into consideration as far as ranking is concern.

    So would it be bad for me if a large proportion of my backlinks have backlinks from a only a relatively small number of sites that are in common with each other?
    Depending on the number as well as quality of the links.

    If you have 100 high pr back link sites and it doesn't get your money site on the SERP then you are going to need more.
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    You'll be fine doing a couple hundred per week!
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  • Profile picture of the author asgm2010
    I don't know why a lot of people are saying it is okay to post 100 or more links per week, but I think that's a little excessive. I think we have to remember that Penguin is a very sensitive algorithm.
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    • Profile picture of the author GregT7
      The reason I ask is that I got an unnatural links penalty for sending 5 PR5-6 links from one particular site to one page on my site. It went from the bottom of page 1 with about 400-500 visits a day (a 90,000/month exact match keyword) to absolute oblivion. I don't want this to happen again by being too aggressive.
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  • Profile picture of the author adam337
    But do it in a short time. And not focus on dofollow. You should make a mixer of dofollow and nofollow.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I definetly agree with dmtaylor, I once gave a guy some lists of high PR pages with low obl and he started to build links real aggresively with that list. He got penalized within 1.5 week and his site didn't even recover after months.

    You have to be carefull with high PR links, someone else stated here that you can easily build 100 high PR links a day. Well he has a blog network and you can't classify that as high PR links as the links only land on the high PR page for a day or maybe 2 and then ends up on an innerpage with pr n/a. That are NOT high PR links, although we all know they are effective for rankings or Google would've never deindexed the networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devel
    As long as you are not using money keyword but your domain name (branding) than its pretty safe. But do not too quick.
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