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Getting a PR3 link and website dropping..wtf?

by ilovechinesefood
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So I got a really awesome link ( I didn't even try to get it!). Basically, I reviewed an iphone app that is used in my niche. The company found my site and listed on me on their resource section linking to my mainpage and a few of my blog entries. Please note, I did not solicit this in anyway and the company is very well respected. The resource page has a PR3. After receiving the link last night, my place in the SERPS dropped over 1 page! What the hell! Shouldnt this have the opposite effect? Do you think Google is examining the link and if it checks out, theyll bump me up accordingly? Previously, after recieving a juicy link, my rankings dropped and then soared up. I hope this is the case this time! SEO can be so stressful!
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Originally Posted by ilovechinesefood View Post

    So I got a really awesome link ( I didn't even try to get it!). Basically, I reviewed an iphone app that is used in my niche. The company found my site and listed on me on their resource section linking to my mainpage and a few of my blog entries. Please note, I did not solicit this in anyway and the company is very well respected. The resource page has a PR3. After receiving the link last night, my place in the SERPS dropped over 1 page! What the hell! Shouldnt this have the opposite effect? Do you think Google is examining the link and if it checks out, theyll bump me up accordingly? Previously, after recieving a juicy link, my rankings dropped and then soared up. I hope this is the case this time! SEO can be so stressful!
    You definitely shouldn't make a connection between something you did yesterday and a change in the SERPS today. For most sites that is just far too short a time.

    And yes, I was going to say, even if it did have an effect, it's very common for new links to cause some kind of initial drop. At least it used to be, with the old Google Dance, after the Evil Penguin, who can be sure...
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      You definitely shouldn't make a connection between something you did yesterday and a change in the SERPS today. For most sites that is just far too short a time.

      And yes, I was going to say, even if it did have an effect, it's very common for new links to cause some kind of initial drop. At least it used to be, with the old Google Dance, after the Evil Penguin, who can be sure...
      Thanks, yeah I know its way too early to tell but I thought that was a weird coincedance.

      So i've finally concluded that SEO is probably the worst profession for those with OCD haha
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      • Profile picture of the author Portlandcopypro
        Something is happening with Google. Not sure what it is yet. There are many sites dropping in ranking today without warning. (BTW, I'm a professional SEO. I don't mean that I'm an internet marketer doing SEO for my own stuff, which I do, but that's beside the point. I am a professional SEO that works for company doing their SEO.) A site in particular has 56 back links (natural links) and has never done any back linking of any kind has experienced a massive drop. It has a page that dropped from position 1 to position 580.

        However, Matt Cutts at SMX Advanced has said that no update to Penguin has been pushed through since last weekend. This is something entirely different and unfortunately, I do not know anything about it other than it happened.

        In other words, this update is pretty much the zombie apocalypse in the Walking Dead. No one knows why, but we're all dealing with the aftermath. I'll let you know if I find anything out. (BTW, someone asked Matt Cutts about it at SMX Advanced because the rankings got really strange today. These people are in France. Therefore, this is widespread).
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Yeah, I doubt your one link did it as I said, but I did forget to mention that there is something major going on in the SERPS again today, as others have pointed out here and in other threads.

    I am actually seeing something like the good ol' Google Dance, where my inner pages outrank my homepage for the EMD keyword, and in fact the homepage has been blasted out of the top 1000 as far as I can see. It was on its way out anyway, but this is like the deathblow!

    It all shows there is much more going on than just the updates we are told about.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Yeah, I doubt your one link did it as I said, but I did forget to mention that there is something major going on in the SERPS again today, as others have pointed out here and in other threads.

      I am actually seeing something like the good ol' Google Dance, where my inner pages outrank my homepage for the EMD keyword, and in fact the homepage has been blasted out of the top 1000 as far as I can see. It was on its way out anyway, but this is like the deathblow!

      It all shows there is much more going on than just the updates we are told about.
      As horrible as it sounds, i'm happy im not the only one. I didn't really see much chatter on the forums about today's Google dance/update/whatever you want to call it which made me worry that it was my site and not an update.

      Oddly enough for my kw, this site is ranked #1 and it has malware and its not even in English haha. How on earth is it possible for this site to get to #1? There's no possible way that site is more relevant/better than mine! Ironically, this made me stop worrying because clearly Google has made some sort of blunder which im sure will be fixed.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoalMe
    Did you check if it was fake PR? It could have been easily. That means the owner simply redirected their website to a PR domain, waited for Google to catch on, then changed the content. It holds no real value in Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by GoalMe View Post

      Did you check if it was fake PR? It could have been easily. That means the owner simply redirected their website to a PR domain, waited for Google to catch on, then changed the content. It holds no real value in Google.
      No way its a fake PR. This company is an app developer that produces apps for apple. I wrote a review and they really liked it, posted it on their site and linked to me. Its a very reputable company. I have a feeling that Google is just trying to figure out where I stand so in the meantime they dropped me. Its the only thing that makes sense since it has happened before.

      Another side note..I noticed that all the pages right next to me in the SERPS have also been dropped. It seemed that they almost took the page 2 results and swapped it with the first.
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  • Profile picture of the author limestone614
    I am 100% sure you can install 1 "good" link today and see the rewards of it tomorrow in the SERPS.

    Google is very quick when you get it right, it definately doesn't "always" take a long time to see a reaction.

    We've done split testing on some very busy websites, with differing but distinct results that lead us to believe that work competed today can pay off tomorrow.

    As for your new PR3, yes, I would say it is the cause, but if it is as you say, then as time progresses you will go back up, but higher than before.

    It's a good link, don't worry.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by limestone614 View Post

      I am 100% sure you can install 1 "good" link today and see the rewards of it tomorrow in the SERPS.

      Google is very quick when you get it right, it definately doesn't "always" take a long time to see a reaction.

      We've done split testing on some very busy websites, with differing but distinct results that lead us to believe that work competed today can pay off tomorrow.

      As for your new PR3, yes, I would say it is the cause, but if it is as you say, then as time progresses you will go back up, but higher than before.

      It's a good link, don't worry.
      Thanks for your thoughts. If you wouldn't mind, do you think you can elaborate on your split testing results? I'm sure there are many people here who are just as curious as I am.
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  • Profile picture of the author limestone614
    One of my clients owns a number of sites all in the same or similar niche, their homepage has been in existence since the dawn of time and they are a very large company, £100's/m year, 100's of thousands of visitors a month, so a big, relevant, trustworthy site, 13 years old.

    Anyway, they have links to their smaller, more specific niche sites from the main site.

    We can alter the sub-headings, titles etc on the main site and directly affect the SERPS on the niche sites, immediately almost, certainly within 24 hours.

    Altering just 1 word on the central site gave an immediate gain of 6 places on a truly massive keyword for the main site, one they'd been stuck at for 2 years, and a 14 place increase on the biggest keyword in the market on the niche site, one they were in 20th for previously, an 80k exact match.

    Overnight.

    We have repeated the same exercise multiple times now over the past 30 days on differing pairs of keywords.

    Strange but true. Penguin had some odd effects to be sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilovechinesefood
      Originally Posted by limestone614 View Post

      One of my clients owns a number of sites all in the same or similar niche, their homepage has been in existence since the dawn of time and they are a very large company, £100's/m year, 100's of thousands of visitors a month, so a big, relevant, trustworthy site, 13 years old.

      Anyway, they have links to their smaller, more specific niche sites from the main site.

      We can alter the sub-headings, titles etc on the main site and directly affect the SERPS on the niche sites, immediately almost, certainly within 24 hours.

      Altering just 1 word on the central site gave an immediate gain of 6 places on a truly massive keyword for the main site, one they'd been stuck at for 2 years, and a 14 place increase on the biggest keyword in the market on the niche site, one they were in 20th for previously, an 80k exact match.

      Overnight.

      We have repeated the same exercise multiple times now over the past 30 days on differing pairs of keywords.

      Strange but true. Penguin had some odd effects to be sure.
      Wow, that's interesting. The central site must be quite an authority.
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      • Profile picture of the author etvconnect
        Yesterday, my site (PR 4), which is about 2 years old lost almost ALL it's traffic. For EVERY keyword I used to rank for I'm now on the 5-10th page. Even the keywords that are matching my domain name and extremely low in competition. Does anyone know what the hell google is doing???
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  • Profile picture of the author limestone614
    Obviously it could be lots of things;

    A competitor spammed your site perhaps.

    You picked up a new, random but high PR link you don't yet know about.

    It is however quite likely that sites you used to have links on have panicked and stripped various links from their sites, including some of yours.

    Penguin has caused enough issues that webmasters are actually going out of their way to clean up their act, and SEO's. The entire backlink architecture is changing every day.
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