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REAL methods of detecting FAKE PR!

by tentimes
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I've scanned the archives on multiple boards about how to detect fake pr and it seems that all the methods used provide no sufficient evidence that a site has been faked in some way.

Example:

PR 5
Real estate Law

is a site that was sent to me from some random link broker.

Run through rankchecker.com everything looks fine.

Or does it? It says that everything is valid yet the domain is 6 months old. Also looking at the back links there is virtually zero.

You guys claim that you can easily detect by going to Google and typing:

info:croisieresodyssee.ca

But yet again everything checks out fine. Even if you check the cached page it checks out.

So I did some investigating and it looks as if Google is not passing page rank to any of the links on the site either.

I went through every single anchor text link on the homepage, did a backlink check across:

Majesticseo.com

https://ahrefs.com

Open Site Explorer

and not a single site has indexed the link. Google has indexed the site, but it's not counting it for some reason or passing any page rank. It was most likely flagged as being suspicious for paid links i'm guessing, or its fake.

My question is how do you really know if a site is legit or not when none of these supposed "best tools for checking fakes" don't show anything wrong. And if this site isn't faking PR then how does it have a PR5 with zero backlinks and only being 6 months old??
#detecting #fake #methods #real
  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Why would you even consider a site that shows no backlinks in ahrefs and majestic? One of the easiest ways to weed out useless domains/websites is by finding which backlinks pass PR to the them and deciding if those backlinks are likely to stick long term.

    Here's what many fakes like to do: 301 from a high PR domain, wait for fake domain to get cached in Google then sell domain and remove 301.
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  • Profile picture of the author tentimes
    I wasn't considering it I was really just trying to figure out how it could have a PR5 with no backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by tentimes View Post

      I wasn't considering it I was really just trying to figure out how it could have a PR5 with no backlinks.
      Well, I hope my posts answers your question. 301's are the easiest way to fake PR.
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      • Profile picture of the author tentimes
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Well, I hope my posts answers your question. 301's are the easiest way to fake PR.
        Yes but how do you know its a 301 if there isn't anything out there to detect it? You just go by their backlinks? If there is less than 2 than its a 301?

        And what exactly is a 301 providing? You mean somebody has a PR5, then puts a 301 on it to another site and driving the PR juice there?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by tentimes View Post

          Yes but how do you know its a 301 if there isn't anything out there to detect it? You just go by their backlinks? If there is less than 2 than its a 301?

          And what exactly is a 301 providing? You mean somebody has a PR5, then puts a 301 on it to another site and driving the PR juice there?
          Yup. This is a very common tactic. Also look out for 301'd backlinks, lol. Sometimes a site might seem legit and with lots of links, but if you can't find EXACTLY which links give it PR, I'd leave it be.

          You know it's been 301'd to if you can't find any backlinks in ahrefs, majestic, opensiteexplorer (slow) and using Google advanced queries.

          I haven't actually checked this site mind you. Just sharing my experience and domain buying process.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by tentimes View Post

          Yes but how do you know its a 301 if there isn't anything out there to detect it? You just go by their backlinks? If there is less than 2 than its a 301?

          And what exactly is a 301 providing? You mean somebody has a PR5, then puts a 301 on it to another site and driving the PR juice there?
          Yes you just go by their backlinks cause that is the main factor to see if the site has strength.

          At expireddomains.net you see a lot of sites with PR0, but often when you check their backlink profile you find some nice links, which means that if you would buy such domain it has a high chance to regain PR in the next Google update and you can buy these for real cheap (registration fee only).
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by tentimes View Post

      I wasn't considering it I was really just trying to figure out how it could have a PR5 with no backlinks.
      When I was just learning the PR game, I even once fooled myself. I had a domain 301'd to another domain, so it had a higher PR. I was like, "OHHH, I better set up WP and make Daddy some backlinks!"

      Needless to say, a week later I was jumping off the FAILBOAT. I focus instead on creating a good website, and updating with useful content. It's slow going, but I've got a bunch of PR1's and some PR2's.
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      • Profile picture of the author TopGun38
        I used rankchecker.com to check on a domain and one said Valid with www and the other without www said Fake with the real domain being World Wide Web Consortium (W3C).

        What does this mean? Now this is an expired domain and Whois data is Godaddy. Is this a valid PR domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author tentimes
    Does getting a link on a page that only has PR juice from a 301 make the link less valuable?
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