What's your take on backlinking?

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Hey,

I'm wondering is there any limit on how fast you should create backlinks to a site. I have a one year old blog. How many backlinks per day would you recommended?

Kiitos (Thanks)
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  • Profile picture of the author hobsdv
    Its down to you, but i wouldnt build to many to fast.

    I usually build 5-10 links per week to my websites, slow and steady wins the race.

    Your backlinking should look natural, if you build hundreds in the first week and then nothing for months and then another 100 you run the risk of penalties
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  • Profile picture of the author automaton
    Slow and steady wins the race! Build quality links over time and you will be golden.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clive Hitchcock
    Originally Posted by virklink View Post

    Hey,

    I'm wondering is there any limit on how fast you should create backlinks to a site. I have a one year old blog. How many backlinks per day would you recommended?

    Kiitos (Thanks)
    I really don't know why people waste their time with backlinking and SEO. You're only asking for a hiding off google when they decide they don't like you anymore. Why not just build a site that people will want to come to, and then bring them there using other methods. Good Luck anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Davipet
      Originally Posted by Clive Hitchcock View Post

      I really don't know why people waste their time with backlinking and SEO. You're only asking for a hiding off google when they decide they don't like you anymore. Why not just build a site that people will want to come to, and then bring them there using other methods. Good Luck anyway.
      My advice is to use ppc , create a sales system that could give you the ROI in few days. Not slow game, fast game and most important, measurable.
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      • Profile picture of the author benf
        I can see PPC working if you have a product or service that you are providing yourself, I find it harder to believe that PPC will work for article sites that get monetized by selling advertising space on the site.
        For interest sites you need to keep the cost of getting new visitors low, which is why playing the Google game is so attractive.

        As far as how many links to create, I would think that this going to be slightly more than your competitors are generating for your market. And as this will very from market to market, there will be no hard and fast number on this.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
          I don't create any backlinks. I just don't like to do it so I don't.

          I currently get 1000 visitors per day to my main site.

          I just checked webmaster tools and I have over 9,000 links to my site.

          I just do my best to make content that people find interesting and valuable. I only have a couple hours per week to work on my sites, so I don't make as much progress as I could be making, but I am happy with the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author elexmedia
    Slow and steady wins the race! Build quality links over time and you will be golden.
    Yes, slow and steady are the best way to build backlinks.

    For me, I create 1 backlink every 3 days.
    First, I started with Press Release Backlinks and wait for 1 week until I create another backlinks. After it, I create EDU backlinks every 3 days.
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  • Usually people praise seo and back link creation, so I was happy to see that two posters here recommended creating good content instead. I couldn't agree more. In my humble opinion content is wayyyyy more important than back links.

    Plus the quality of your back links is important. A billion links from forum profiles isn't going to be worth much.

    That being said a nice slow link progression with a wide variety of different link types would be your best bet.

    Really though. Link building is a pain in the a$$ and you should outsource it or forget about it altogether.

    Like I keep saying over and over there are better ways to get traffic than through the search engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author benf
      Hi RRJ,

      Yes I believe in great content is the key to a website that is going to have longevity. However just having good content and not shouting about your site will not be the solution too, as many web site builders will testify. The key here (IMHO) is to get the ballance between content and SEO (or other off-site advertising ) right. I am of the opinion that 80% content writing, 20% SEO and off site promoting works well. There is another discussion going on where wiser folk than I are making other suggestions to the right balance, and if that balance changes as the website gets more popular.

      Also I do not see enough threads here about how to create good content. Personally I see that as writing about something that you are passionate about and have strong opinions about (whether the are right or wrong). As you are reading this I am wondering, What is your formula to creating great content?
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  • Profile picture of the author fundecals
    Yes ,creating blog is very good way to create back links.But make sure the blog content is unique and relevant .I also created a blog for my websites and get 3-4 links/day. I also gets the back links from press release ,blog commenting and classified ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I still don't understand how you guys get traffic with good content if noone can find your site. I mean you have no branches people can walk across to get to your site, so I'm a fan of backlinks myself. It seems like the only way to open up those virtual doors so to speak.

    I'm still mostly a newb though, so I trust what the more experienced folks say too. One day maybe I'll stop.

    The reason I'm not right now is because I see my competitors using certain "backlink tricks", that are getting their sites ranked pretty fast. Well not their sites, something else that can get even more traffic, google places.

    They blast the listings to oblivion, then the listings always seem to rank on page 1.
    Its something I'm trying right now, so I'll let people know how it goes. I've never seen anyone get penalized for it, and never see marketers talk about the specific technique here.

    All I know is it seems to be allowing many of my competitors to steal my traffic, so I have no choice but to compete against them. One of their listings has 200 million spammy backlinks, another listing has around 200 thousand, both rank page 1. The links suck, they seem to have no power, but obviously they hold some type of weight in volume as they're both ranking page 1.

    -Red
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    • I have put several sites onto page one of google without creating back links. Like I said content is way more important.

      Also if you create back links create them from decent content (such as blog posts). My seo is based on content.

      maybe a bunch of spammy links will get you loads of traffic - I really don't know. This is something I will be testing, but for now my traffic strategy works well. My gut tells me that spammy back links (like forum profile links) are worthless though. Perhaps someone has some evidence to prove me wrong. If back linking is where it is at then it will be a piece of cake for me to rank because I can create links no problem; I just choose to provide quality content instead.

      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      I still don't understand how you guys get traffic with good content if noone can find your site. I mean you have no branches people can walk across to get to your site, so I'm a fan of backlinks myself. It seems like the only way to open up those virtual doors so to speak.

      I'm still mostly a newb though, so I trust what the more experienced folks say too. One day maybe I'll stop.

      The reason I'm not right now is because I see my competitors using certain "backlink tricks", that are getting their sites ranked pretty fast. Well not their sites, something else that can get even more traffic, google places.

      They blast the listings to oblivion, then the listings always seem to rank on page 1.
      Its something I'm trying right now, so I'll let people know how it goes. I've never seen anyone get penalized for it, and never see marketers talk about the specific technique here.

      All I know is it seems to be allowing many of my competitors to steal my traffic, so I have no choice but to compete against them. One of their listings has 200 million spammy backlinks, another listing has around 200 thousand, both rank page 1. The links suck, they seem to have no power, but obviously they hold some type of weight in volume as they're both ranking page 1.

      -Red
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    I'm not really sure why people worry about "too many" manually built links. Using software, I'd be concerned. But not links built manually. Here is what I tell people:

    Remember, people always recommend that you have SUCH "great content" that other sites will want to link back to you. If you do have that great content, how are YOU going to control how many people a day link back to you? You can't. Google knows and understands that.

    What happens if thousands of other websites LOVE your content? What if I made a brand new site TODAY and had a contest to win a MILLION dollars if folks would bring more folks to my site. What if I posted it on a hugely popular forum or something and then advertised it on Craigslist and Facebook. Don't you think every webmaster worth his salt would put a link to my site on his site so that he can be the winner? How will Google know WHY these folks linked back to me? Remember, Google is an algorithm and not a human being. They'd HAVE to set up the algorithm to discount ANY new links that a new site gets. President Obama's site, Change.gov is now a Page Rank 8 site and that site was started right after the inauguration a year and a half ago. So Google did NOT discount the backlinks and I don't think they sat up and said, "Oh! This is Barack Obama's website. We'd better treat it differently."

    What if YOU offered a contest where webmasters could win a MILLION dollars if they are the site that refers the MOST traffic to your site. How many backlinks do you think you would get then?? How are you going to control or slow down the backlinking??
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Thats another major flaw I find with using "great content" so other people link to you. There are simply niches where that never happens.

    Why? Because one, the only ones who own sites in the niche are ALL competitors, trying to make money and compete against each other. Who the heck is going to want to link to my site just because I have great content? Noone, in the 3 years my sites been on google, not a single person has linked to it because neither my "fans" or competitors have any benefit in doing so. I realize there are backlinking strategies to provide benefits for both sides, I have tried them over the years, noone ever wants to help their competitor. ESPECIALLY if they know their competitor is not as large as they are. I'm not trying to link to small, crappy websites, only ones better than my site, and those are always the ones who never answer back for link exchanges.

    My "fans" are never really fans, but people looking for emergency help on their home. These people get the work done, then forget the company even exists. We obviously have good enough content to sell thousand dollar jobs to them, but noone EVER backlinks to our site on their own.

    Expecting my competitors to do it would be that much more unlikely.
    Therefore, I simply can't wait for people to backlink to my site, I'd be waiting for the next 20 years regardless of my content. Some niches are all about money, service, people choose the most credible looking sites, buy your service, never come back and never talk about it unless you ask them for a review on google.

    Very few if any of them have websites. I'm just saying this so people realize there are certain businesses that can not rely on great content to get backlinks. My number 1 competitor in this niche has EXCELLENT content, all the sites linking to him he still had to pay a good penny for. I DID wind up finding a lot of sites who *appeared* to be linking to him out of generosity, then I later found out he owns all those sites as well.

    So if he's making incredible content, and people aren't linking to him, that tells me its a hopeless feat in this niche to even try. I'll simply make good enough content to sell my service, and work on building backlinks like all my other competitors do. =]
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  • Profile picture of the author Venkat001
    It actually depends on individual perceptions. There is nothing harm which you are going to make by building very few links in a week. But had I been in your place I would check if this blog can really get good traffic. Otherwise I will straight away start on with new blog
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I do have evidence, give me one second and I'll edit this post.

    Competitor #1 - if you check his google place backlinks (I'm only saying the spammy links work for google places, I don't have evidence to believe it works on regular sites) with ahrefs.com, you can see its nothing but spam.

    https://plus.google.com/102163747593...24399055/about

    Competitor #2 - same thing

    https://plus.google.com/106993507872...79679925/about

    When I saw how much traffic their google places gets (my brother formally worked for one of these companies and said they got leads every single day, and still do) I decided its time to buy scrapebox and go to town on my own google places.

    Their websites are optimized, but have little to no backlinks, this is for local business's obviously, but its my niche so its how I feel I need to focus. Anytime I type in "basement waterproofing", their listing rank on page 1 every single time. All due to spammy backlinks imo.

    -Red (this is just a newbie perspective so if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but it seems like its the only major thing they're doing)
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    simply do it naturally. don't make 1000 links a day. do it in a way that Google think that they are manually done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    Too many quick backlinks in short time period is not recommended to get higher ranks (SERP) on Google. It may be seen as "Spammy" in the eye of Google.

    It is always better to go ahead with consistent backlinks. Say, 20-30 per day.

    Important thing : Don't forget to announce Google that you have got a new backlink - To do so, ping your backlinks or Get backlinks to your backlinks (specially social bookmarks).
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  • Profile picture of the author BombyDimpu
    Slow and steady wins the race ... 10-20 standard backlinks per week is enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author jrcaza
    It's a boring and tedious process. Don't ever buy them in bulk and just take a few minutes each day to build a couple of them.
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    • Profile picture of the author wally247
      I never thought I'd say it, but I totally agree with the people saying to NOT build any links.

      Link building sucks, and for me...over and over again it just ends up with my traffic being gone one day as Google catches up to the newest WSO method.


      I took one of my sites and tried something totally different, and I can say that people WILL find your site if you just focus on actually creating...dare I say "quality content"!

      Forget about keyword density. Get your keywords in there in a NATURAL way a few times.

      Get the KW in the H1 tag and in your image and use LSI keywords a lot, and also use them in your images.


      LINK OUT! - Nothing screams affiliate more than a million links coming in and 5 going out...to an affiliate offer.


      Link out to authority websites in your niche, not other affiliates.


      Learn proper keyword research: Most important at all! If you do your KW research right and go after keywords that every other marketer on earth is forgetting about, you'll get ranked WITHOUT LINKS, and quickly too.


      Forget about the latest WSO's and link schemes...just make good posts based on those long-tails and you'll be OK.



      Well...hopefully
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  • Profile picture of the author adam337
    The age of your blog is good for doing SEO. You can build hundred links per day. But don't build them in one way. Use different ways like social media marketing,directory listing,forum posting,blog commenting etc. And build them manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theoutpostwebs
    I'm very confused myself with backlinking i thought what i was doin was backlinking but when i went to DIY.com they showed me that i had ZERO backlinks what the heck am i missing
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    • Profile picture of the author wally247
      Originally Posted by Theoutpostwebs View Post

      I'm very confused myself with backlinking i thought what i was doin was backlinking but when i went to DIY.com they showed me that i had ZERO backlinks what the heck am i missing

      Don't pay attention to those tools/reports. If you built the links they ARE there.


      Those backlink checking tools rarely show 1/100th of the actual links pointing to a site, so if building links is your thing, just keep going and don't worry about whether they "show up" or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author bilal9999
    Built high pr and do follow quality back links not quantity ,,,, and also built the mixture of the

    links just like the do follow and no follow ,,,,, so you look natural in Google eye,,,,,,
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