The End Of Google Penalties? New SEO Companies That Focus Solely On REMOVING Links.

12 years ago

Removing bad links has been going on for awhile for SEO companies. Most of the time a company hires a crappy SEO company, pays them a few thousand dollars and get's ranked first page for a few months, then google slaps them.

That's where more legit SEO companies come in and pick up the pieces and try to undo the damage that's already been done.

Although I haven't heard of a method of removing bad links without contacting webmasters, that's pretty interesting.

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sovereignn

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joey Montano

Removing bad links has been going on for awhile for SEO companies. Most of the time a company hires a crappy SEO company, pays them a few thousand dollars and get's ranked first page for a few months, then google slaps them.

That's where more legit SEO companies come in and pick up the pieces and try to undo the damage that's already been done.

Although I haven't heard of a method of removing bad links without contacting webmasters, that's pretty interesting.

Yeah but the focus of these companies is only the removal of links. It's a little different than the SEO companies removing a few links here and there trying to repair links

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Michael Ten

12 years ago

Lolol. That is amazing. Lolol.

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nasuryono

12 years ago

I personally would not remove links as it can appear to look unnatural to your link profile.

I would just dilute my current link profile with more junk links (different and random anchor text) to make everything look more natural.

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scottmacair

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nasuryono

I personally would not remove links as it can appear to look unnatural to your link profile.

I would just dilute my current link profile with more junk links (different and random anchor text) to make everything look more natural.

If you have an unnatural links penalty that means your site's had a manual review. Diluting bad links will not remove the penalty. You need to remove the bad links.

I have a bunch of new clients who all want me to help them remove bad linkw as they have unnatural links detected penalties. The penalty can be removed through filing for reconsideration but you have demonstrate you've made a good effort to remove the bad links. Google will not lift the penalty just because you added better links to the link profile.

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akasheg

12 years ago

Originally Posted by scottmacair

If you have an unnatural links penalty that means your site's had a manual review. Diluting bad links will not remove the penalty. You need to remove the bad links.

I have a bunch of new clients who all want me to help them remove bad linkw as they have unnatural links detected penalties. The penalty can be removed through filing for reconsideration but you have demonstrate you've made a good effort to remove the bad links. Google will not lift the penalty just because you added better links to the link profile.

I agree with you. You have got remove the links its not unnatural infact even Google says to remove all the things which you might have been penalized for and wait for the things to get better.

But if you have bad links. You can also do it the other way. Just build more high quality natural links that the bad links don't matter much.

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philliplpaz

12 years ago

That could also work. I mean bad links are getting your site penalize, why not pay someone to remove them. But that is a gamble to because you can never know when Google will lift the penalty.

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sovereignn

12 years ago

Originally Posted by philliplpaz

That could also work. I mean bad links are getting your site penalize, why not pay someone to remove them. But that is a gamble to because you can never know when Google will lift the penalty.

Well when the whole BMR fiasco happened a lot of people fixed their rankings by removing all the links they had from BMR

So if it worked then it should still work now

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adamjcd

12 years ago

The thing this has got me wondering is how stable this business model is, as far as I was aware Google is planning on bringing in a new tool for disavowing links in the near future (possibly) .. this would make companies involved in this pointless wouldn't it? or would they be used more for 'reputation management' sort of thing?

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Sclark

12 years ago

Originally Posted by adamjcd

The thing this has got me wondering is how stable this business model is, as far as I was aware Google is planning on bringing in a new tool for disavowing links in the near future (possibly) .. this would make companies involved in this pointless wouldn't it? or would they be used more for 'reputation management' sort of thing?

Hey, adamjcd, I wonder the same.

And I also wonder who is behind these link removal companies (I'm not talking about SEO firms and SEO consultants who do it as part of bigger SEO campaigns). That reminds of how someone saw Nessie in the lake, and the next day different people arrived at the site, selling carved-out statues of the monster and offering pictures of it.

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cooler1

12 years ago

Does the unnatural links notice in GWT only come from having links on blog networks or does it also come from other types of link building?

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scottmacair

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Does the unnatural links notice in GWT only come from having links on blog networks or does it also come from other types of link building?

It can come from other sources of links not just private / public blog networks. Being caught on a private blog network will almost guarantee an unnatural links penalty but you can get an unnatural links penalty from other manipulative strategies.

Penguin address low quality spam and over optimization. This can be resolved by diluting overly optimized anchor text with brand anchor text - if that's the problem.

GWT penalties such as the unnatural links penalties are manual reviews and are issued for more serious link building manipulation. The only way out of this is to remove as many bad links as poss and file for reconsideration.

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seoposter

12 years ago

Funny, because I have a friend who is a freelance web designer but given a link grading project from his client. Since I am the SEO, he keeps on asking me about how to qualify a spam link. But the point is, projects like removing links already is here. And since people are so conscious about how Google shapes their business for the future, this new branch of SEO will likely stay.

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Steadyon

12 years ago

Originally Posted by scottmacair

If you have an unnatural links penalty that means your site's had a manual review.

Are you saying that google did over 700,000 manual reviews in the last few months?

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sovereignn

I'm not sure exactly how they do it, they say have a platform that allows them to just remove links without even contacting the webmasters on different types of websites.

Originally Posted by Joey Montano

Although I haven't heard of a method of removing bad links without contacting webmasters, that's pretty interesting.

I can tell you what they are doing. It is complete bull****. I've seen a few messages in other forums from people this happened to. They send a DMCA notice to the webhost (technically, they are not contacting the webmaster) and the site gets taken down. DMCA's are supposed to be for copyright infringement, but most web hosts take them seriously. When they receive one, they will often take a website down pretty quickly and leave the webmaster to sort it out and resolve the situation.

So a webmaster contracts someone to build links for them (which ultimately the webmaster is responsible for), then has someone send out DMCA notices to get the sites pulled down even though the content was submitted on the authority of that same webmaster.

It is not what DMCA notices were intended for and is completely abusing them.

The link removal industry is dirtier than the SEO industry, and that is saying something.

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virtu

12 years ago

Wow, amazing business. Just wonder when it come as WSO here

btw, it must be hard for site with automatic backlink bombing... Share any tips?

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mosthost

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sovereignn

I'm not sure exactly how they do it, they say have a platform that allows them to just remove links without even contacting the webmasters on different types of websites.

No they don't. Let's get serious here

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sovereignn

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mosthost

No they don't. Let's get serious here

At least they claim to I mean chances are they can't....

Originally Posted by Rafay Zafar

I see a new business model developing here.
What if i first spam a weak site with thousands of links and as soon as the site drops off the serps i send them an email introducing my 'unique link removal service'

That's pathetic negative SEO is such a dirty thing...

I enjoy blackhat forums but I kind of see how scummy they really are when things like that pop up

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

What a total joke, those jokers won't remove any link you can't easily remove yourself.

Good luck with that.

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Rafay Zafar

12 years ago

I see a new business model developing here.
What if i first spam a weak site with thousands of links and as soon as the site drops off the serps i send them an email introducing my 'unique link removal service'

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Rafay Zafar

I see a new business model developing here.
What if i first spam a weak site with thousands of links and as soon as the site drops off the serps i send them an email introducing my 'unique link removal service'

I'm pretty sure there is already someone here playing both sides of the fence. I'm sure there are many others too.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I'm pretty sure there is already someone here playing both sides of the fence. I'm sure there are many others too.

I think I know who your talking about & If they are playing both sides (build links/remove links) they've covered their tracks pretty well, other than promoting both of the links here on WF at the same time.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I think I know who your talking about & If they are playing both sides (build links/remove links) they've covered their tracks pretty well, other than promoting both of the links here on WF at the same time.

Yeah, they have covered their tracks well, but it is nothing revolutionary.

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

Oh yeah IM/SEO is getting prettier by the day :S

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lisaann

12 years ago

Guess it won't be a very long-term business:

Google To Build Disavow Link Feature In Webmaster Tools

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Sam Hale

12 years ago

Yeah it's good article on remove unnatural back link because google count it in spam. These days niches links has more value as compare to others.

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BlackMetal

12 years ago

I think the whole negative SEO thing is overrated, and likely not to exist much at all.
It's more along the lines of, if that's all you've got, then yeah, you wont rank well, and you're probably a spammer.
But think you could drop Adobe in the rankings by pushing some bad links to it? I dont think so.

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seokid

12 years ago

I would just dilute my current link profile with more junk links ,different and random anchor text to set things so it will look natural

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rjonesx

12 years ago

Hey folks, I am behind one of those companies/tools that helps remove links (Remove 'em). One of the previous responders was correct that you cant just dilute your way out of manual penalties. It might be possible w/ Penguin, but not with "manual actions".

I do think that you need to be careful removing links - you should be pretty certain that links are the problem before you go start tinkering around with something as important as your link profile, especially considering it could hurt your rankings in Bing, even if you are penalized in Google.

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