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Question to Yukon about Wordpress Silo Structure

by frndelavega
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Hi, this question is open to everyone, but I specifically wanted to adress to yukon since he is very knownledgable on this. After going through all the threads about Silo Structure, I think I get the whole idea. Still, I am struggling to implement it.

My big problem: the menu bar.

The menu bar on top spoils the whole Silo Structure. How can we prevent this from happening? I've found the perfect wordpress theme for my website, but that navigation bar on top is my greatest concern

Is there any solution to this?
#question #silo #structure #wordpress #yukon
  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Banned
    The real question should be, what does the menu in the header look like in Google cache (text version).

    Is it a list of site-wide hyperlinks, or JavaScript that Google isn't looking at?

    The Google Cache Text version tells a lot about a web page & what Google is looking at, check the cache page & see If it's even an issue.

    Either way you can have a web developer tweak the source code to do whatever you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Riltz
    There is a wordpress plugin called "Exclude Pages": wordpress.org/extend/plugins/exclude-pages/

    Just install this and in all your pages check the box "Exclude this page" - it will stop showing in the menu bar

    No need for a developer.
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    • Profile picture of the author zecke
      But the main thing is that we don`t want to show the menu bar to google robot we want to show it only for users.

      I`m using javascript code for links that I dont want to spidered:

      Code:
      <a href="javascript:location.replace('http://example.org')">anchor text</a>
      I mention it in this thread:
      Code:
      warriorforum.com/adsense-ppc-seo-discussion-forum/628566-i-siloed-my-sites-what-s-next.html#post6538820
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Riltz
    If the pages that are part of your silo are not in the top menu bar then there is no reason why you would want to hide the menu bar to Google.

    Also counting on javascript to hide something to the Google bot is not a foolproof "trick" anymore: SEO NEWS: GoogleBot Reads JavaScript?! | SubmitEdge News - SEO News
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    • Profile picture of the author zecke
      The main menu bar should be only seen by g bots on home page. On the rest pages there suppose to be javascripted links, but like You said they want to spider java links also, so we need find another way to not show menu bar to bots...
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  • Profile picture of the author frndelavega
    This might sound like a stupid question, but I am wondering why is the nofollow tag not good for sculping. Would adding the nofollow tag to the links in the top menu bar help in any way?

    Sorry, I'm just quite new to this.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by frndelavega View Post

      This might sound like a stupid question, but I am wondering why is the nofollow tag not good for sculping. Would adding the nofollow tag to the links in the top menu bar help in any way?

      Sorry, I'm just quite new to this.
      Adding nofollow to internal links is a horrible, horrible idea.

      When a page passes on PR, the PR is divided up among all the links on the page. When nofollow was first introduced, it told Google to not pass on any PR to that link and to divide it up among the remaining links. People took advantage of this. Google didn't like it, so now they treat the nofollow attribute as not passing on PR but that portion of the PR is not redistributed. It is just lost.

      These images explain it a little better.



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  • Profile picture of the author frndelavega
    Hi mike, thank you a lot for your detailed reply, I was not aware of this.

    I am also wondering what you guys think about the amount of outgoing links from the page you want to rank. The aim of the silo structure is to concentrate as much linkjuice as possible in your target keywords, but what about natural outgoing links?

    I have read several posts and ebooks that recommend having some dofollow outgoing links to authoratative sites, such as Wikipedia, related to the page's theme.

    Is it better for SEO to add this outgoing link to the page I want to rank, or to not allow any outgoing links at all?
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    I think you're way over-thinking it.

    Silos are great, but they don't need to closed or locked down to be effective. A sitewide menu will not spoil your silo structure. If it helps UX, it helps you.
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  • Profile picture of the author lsilver
    I'm not sure if i saw a firm recommendation here on how to handle the site menu.

    Should we not include any pages that are part of the silo?

    Or if we do include those pages for the user experience should we wrap them in js?
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