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So Um if "UNNATURAL" link building is dead why are you here? Shouldn't you be off creating content?

by Mike Anthony
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Been away for a little bit and came back to drop some free videos in this thread here.

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I expected some naysayers but was a little (not that much to be honest) surprised at some of the responses. I am an anti blasting, don't spin your content 2/3 Whitehat guy often attacked over the years for opposing link blasts, forum profiles etc but apparently now SEO is all about non promotion or its all scuzzy.

Apparently people are still after all these months buying into SEO/ link building being dead. The only thing they approve of is

A) creating content hoping someone will promote it for them

and

B) Guest blogging

Everything else is scuzzy or questionable

If you are in this purist group I am curious about two things.

A) What are you doing bothering with an SEO forum? I believe in content as well but if I thought that was all I could or should do then why read forums? just go write content and wait for the traffic to start coming in. I mean on page SEO can be learned in a day so read up and be done with it.

B) Do you really believe that buying links, making "ahem" arrangements for webmasters to give you links (which is still unnatural), linking to and from your various web properties is gone and no longer effective? Based on what?Do you really believe that all these top notch SEO firms are doing nothing but creating content?

Serious questions . Would love to know because its flavoring alot of what is in this forum now and I can see more than ever if Newbies buy into that they would want to quit SEO all together.

Bonus is if I get some good answers then I might decide to move along myself and you never have to read my posts again. Hows that for incentive to answer my curiosity?
#building #content #creating #dead #link #unnatural
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    The newbies quit SEO in droves when low quality tactics like yours fall on their face everytime Google rolls out algo update.

    Oh, and I'm here because I'm not a lily whitehat evangelist. I'll be the first to put down money for a good paid link. At the same time, I don't think I should be making it obvious to Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      The newbies quit SEO in droves when low quality tactics like yours fall on their face everytime Google rolls out algo update.

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      Come on retsek. Make better points or this will be boring soon. I have helped well over a hundred people so far go about building their SEO network and not ONE has reported being deindexed or falling on their face. You continue to have no clue what you are talking about. Having tens of PR3s and up pointing at your site from pages that you control is low quality? LOL

      and then the laugher here

      Oh, and I'm here because I'm not a lily whitehat evangelist. I'll be the first to put down money for a good paid link. At the same time, I don't think I should be making it obvious to Google
      So you buy links individually on domains and thats "good" quality but I teach people to buy the whole domain that you would buy a link on and thats low quality? and you think that buying a link on a domain that is selling links to various buyers is less obvious than controlling the whole domain to yourself with no links from various buying sites? Excuse me a second

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  • Profile picture of the author rowanman28
    I'm personally here because almost everyone is experiencing problems with Google since the algorithm changes, and I'm trying to see if I can find cheap or free methods of ranking, or getting traffic, while also promoting my own services, which do that. I see problems with buying domains and hosting with a unique IP address to make a back link, or back links. Number one, it's expensive, number two, Google likes to see a site that has fresh content on it, number three, back links aren't as valuable as they used to be, and home page links by themselves need to be balanced by a more natural looking link profile, including social shares, which is what I specialize in. Plug.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by rowanman28 View Post

      I'm personally here because almost everyone is experiencing problems with Google since the algorithm changes, and I'm trying to see if I can find cheap or free methods of ranking, or getting traffic, while also promoting my own services, which do that. I see problems with buying domains and hosting with a unique IP address to make a back link, or back links. Number one, it's expensive, number two, Google likes to see a site that has fresh content on it, number three, back links aren't as valuable as they used to be, and home page links by themselves need to be balanced by a more natural looking link profile, including social shares, which is what I specialize in. Plug.
      Fresh content does not matter. I don't know why people keep spewing this nonsense. Original content... yes. Fresh... no. Now if you are running a news site, then absolutely. Most of my clients haven't updated their site in years, nor should they. It doesn't make sense for their business.

      If you are building a network, there is no need to keep posting fresh content to it. Most of the sites I have built have 10-15 pages and have never been updated since they were created. Fresh content does not improve the links off of these sites. That is the blog network model, and the only reason they kept posting more and more content to their sites was because it allowed them to keep taking on more and more customers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by rowanman28 View Post

      I see problems with buying domains and hosting with a unique IP address to make a back link, or back links. Number one, it's expensive
      Yes. Its definitely not a no money solution but alot of things cost money or time. Thats the way the world works. Buying domains beats the socks off of buying links though.


      number two, Google likes to see a site that has fresh content on it,
      Nothing says that you can't have fresh content on bought domains so that is not an issue anyway even if that were true

      number three, back links aren't as valuable as they used to be
      When I see a page ranking for a really competitive term with no backlinks I will agree you have a point but there is no such page so you don't. Social signals are still not at the place yet where it is the major factor in most serps.

      Still no one has answered my question who believes everything is scuzzy
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  • Profile picture of the author SwedishDemocracy
    Building links which are perceived by Google to be unnatural--that's dead. Nobody is saying you can't do linkbuilding, you just need to do it so your backlinking profile it appears to be very, very organic.

    Basically, don't spam. Forgetting about SEO is the best way to succeed in SEO right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnys229
    Yeah, strictly speaking, any attempts you make to manipulate your rankings are against Google's TOS. But that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't do SEO regardless. Google's #1 concern is profits, Google doesn't care about its users, so why should we care what Google tells us to do, as long as what we're doing is working?
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