Copying from books for unique content strategy

tech84

12 years ago

Basically, what you are trying to do is ILLEGAL. So, you know the answer to your question.

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deezn 12 years ago

Originally Posted by tech84

Basically, what you are trying to do is ILLEGAL. So, you know the answer to your question.

Unless the material he is copying no longer has copyright (a lot of older stuff).

But new stuff yeah, illegal!
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trytolearnmore

12 years ago

Why don't you do it like this: take 3-4 of books from the library, read the chapters about your topic one night before you start writing, and on the next morning write your opinion. Trust me, this way you will get more knowledge than a university can ever give you.

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kochtgr

12 years ago

It's always better to use your own words just use books to get ideas and create something on your own...

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brandsmith12

Banned 12 years ago

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paulgl

12 years ago

If the book's content is indexed by google, yes, it's duplicate
content. BUT...this is not duplicate content to worry about.

Before falling all over nonsense in this thread, there are
plenty, and I mean there must be a gazillion books in the
public domain, readily available online from a gazillion
places. This "content" is free for the taking as it's lost
all copyright. Plenty of movies are this boat as well.

Passing it off as your own "shtuff" would be quite a stupid
thing to do. It's not yours, but since it is in the public domain,
who cares? Nobody sues except in the United States. The
Supreme Court just ruled that lying is free speech. You
can claim a military medal or award as your own. No
crime there!

Other countries could give a rip about US copyright laws
anyway.

Most stuff published in the US first before 1923 is now
in PD. Like I said, claiming it as "your own" would not
give a good visitor experience, would it?

What I do, is spin articles. It's a great way. Every TV
news show spins the same story. I spin wikipedia
when I need to.

No reason to copy, word for word, some published content.

What you could do, for copied stuff from a PD book,
magazine, whatever, is quote it and give the credit.
It's still "content," right?

Hiring a lawyer is ridiculous. The courts are jammed now
with useless lawsuits. If you put it on the internet,
you have to know it will be copied. Music biz stopped
trying to take down lyric sites...

Originally Posted by brandsmith12

Google always give more importance to unique and high quality content, ( high and unique quality content mean new ideas and thought about particular topic that provide valuable info toe very visitor), if you will copy some content form other places this is illegitimate work and you are breaking the rules of Google Algorithms..

I don't know why these myths keep coming up.
Google could care less about the "importance of unique and
high quality content." Ever see the shtuff on wikipedia?
They have no algo about high quality content. Duplicate
content is indexed and loved by google each and every day.

Google could care less if you copy something. They are not
in the business of being the internet police. You can find
copies of anything and everything via a google search.
Why people think otherwise, I don't know.

What google cares about is SHMOOZING their search engine.
They readily index illegal, copied, dumb, stupid, content
all the time. Even give it PR and authority. Like wikileaks.

One more thing. Book reviewers use the same copied content
as others. No problem. Wish this duplicate crapola would die.
Amazon uses the same copied book covers as other book selling
sites.

Paul

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seamy82

12 years ago

Yeah, none of this answers my questions. I wasn't looking a lecture on the legalities or the morality of this. I know this is a practise that people use and if I put in a reference to the book, I can used certain sections. I am just wondering whether the Google algorithm view this as unique quality content.

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shayman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by seamy82

I am just wondering whether the Google algorithm view this as unique quality content.

If it does then I hope one day it doesn't. Sorry but people who intentionally copy other peoples hard work don't really deserve success in my book.
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seamy82

12 years ago

I'm sure everyone has used this at some point. Does anyone know if Google can check with publishers about whether this is duplicate content? There is surprisingly know information on this on the web.

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Buyseech

12 years ago

If it isnt already written, then it is OK in Googles eyes. When the author/publisher of the book comes knocking, you better answer.

If its something generic like recipes or sth, than its no problem if you ask me. But if you are ripping someones theories, novels, etc etc...then it could catch fire fast.

But as far as Google goes..first come first serve...

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nest28

12 years ago

I thought about doing this when I first got into IM, bad idea. To answer your question ,there is probably some way for publishers to know if someone is using their content online, or else plenty of people would be doing it.

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Buyseech

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nest28

I thought about doing this when I first got into IM, bad idea. To answer your question ,there is probably some way for publishers to know if someone is using their content online, or else plenty of people would be doing it.

If nothing else, they can go to copyscape and just randomly type in a few paragraphs from the entire book and voila.

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seamy82

12 years ago

Its probably not a good idea. Its a very lazy approach anyway. I have only did it a couple of times and referenced it though.

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dp40oz

12 years ago

Google books actual has tons of content indexed that you wouldn't think is. I'd be very careful with this method.

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seamy82

12 years ago

I've abandoned it. The books I've used are not on google books but this isn't worth the risk. It is time saving but there is no longevity in it.

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matthewtc

12 years ago

I agree with you on that one seamy82. I tried similar at first and found out my own writing helped my blogs and websites out more. Apparently people have posted books online either by scanning or other means. I don't know if google searches those or not. Another time save if you do not want to write your own content is to hire people to write articles for you like on elance or fiverr.

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jhonybravo222

12 years ago

Your thread is so interesting it brings a smile on my face. Do not do this with yourself. First you have to gather knowledge according to your topic and then brainstorm your idea after that recheck it where its needs to improve then try to improve it, thats the way you can enhance your abilities.

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nilsomudro

12 years ago

yeh, it helps you quickly to get ranking from Google, but if the authors or publishers search the article in Google to update or add new content at the same book (from where you copied), now what will you do if they complain it to Google?

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ivvyevents 12 years ago

There are some methods through which Google indexes the contents in a book, but if the contents from where you have your content from is not to be found it might be good for you but if it gets indexed latter on then there are chances that it might turn out to be an issue.
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Danny Cutts

12 years ago

There are ways for publishers to see who is using their content and quite honestly teh only person you are cheating is yourself....

Dont get me wrong using books as your research is brilliant way of doing things but not copying it word for word :-)

Danny

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seamy82

12 years ago

All content has now been removed. I was never happy with it anyway. Anytime I have taken a short cut in seo, it has come back to bite me in the ass i.e. Build My Rank

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ronaldec

12 years ago

Just go to a site like textbroker, iwriter or fiverr if you don't want to write the content. Get a good writer if possible. Or just hire a writer off Odesk or elance.

Its no crime to hate writing or even be bad at the task. But to resort to copying from books just because you think google has never seen that content is wrong. Very wrong.

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Carl Potts 12 years ago

its pretty daft really

theres loads of anti-pliagarism software available in the academic sector, its illegal and easy to get caught
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nasuryono

12 years ago

You might get away with it in the short term but it will not work in the long run.

Why risk upsetting the law and regulation with this kind of behavior?

I believe everyone has something unique to share with the World Wide Web so please stop the piracy here.

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shayman

12 years ago

I'm glad to see seamy82 has rethought this

. What really bugs me is that ALL the content I create is 100% original because I'm an expert in my field which is music. I don't even need reference books or whatever. What I have noticed since Penguin (sorry to bring it up again) is that sites that have literally just copy and pasted my content are actually now ranking above me, probably because their websites carry more authority or have been better optimised than me. So in the end it probabaly looks like I have taken THEIR content.

IT JUST SUCKS!

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dburk

12 years ago

Originally Posted by shayman

I'm glad to see seamy82 has rethought this

. What really bugs me is that ALL the content I create is 100% original because I'm an expert in my field which is music. I don't even need reference books or whatever. What I have noticed since Penguin (sorry to bring it up again) is that sites that have literally just copy and pasted my content are actually now ranking above me, probably because their websites carry more authority or have been better optimised than me. So in the end it probabaly looks like I have taken THEIR content.

IT JUST SUCKS!

Hi shayman,

You have a legal right to every penny they earned through the use of your content. Hire a lawyer, sue them, and split the winnings between you and your attorney.

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John Romaine

12 years ago

I find it sickening that someone would even consider this. Let alone actually do it.

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dbwebdesignz

12 years ago

Highly illegal and i would suggest reading the topics and re-writing this is the most beneficial way. Also it would help you to understand if you are interested in the topics you are reading about as you will pay more attention to detail

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robertwilston

Banned 12 years ago

I think from books you should take the ideas not content then you make the content in your own words.because from this you can understand what you are writing if you will copy the content from books then how you can understand what you want to write.

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