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Magic Submitter. your experiences?

by codecreative
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Hi

Just wondering what sort of results people are experiencing with magic submitter. I have been running campaigns for close to a month now (bulding about 10 links direct to my money site each day on tier 1) and then backlinking those initial backlinks. I use the 3 tier blog template for my campaign and the links it makes are sticking and getting indexed by google which is all a good thing.

Unfortunatly they don't seem to carry much weight or influence as my serp position hasn't really moved much. I'm wondering if it takes a few months for the links you create to carry some weight and push your site up. I'm targetting niches with low strengths of competition but having said that I still am not seeing much in the way of positive movement.

I have NO complaints about the software everything works and as it should. It's just my end result is my sites not moving up the serps.
#experiences #magic #submitter
  • Profile picture of the author JakeSEO
    MS (and other software alike) are great if you use them to carry out mundane tasks which othervise would take up much of your time. The same is true for all the software which you can teach to post and sign up to different sites (ZP, Ubot etc).

    However, using software to carry out whole SEO-campaigns simply doesn't work post Penguin and Panda.

    Learn how to carry out successful SEO-campaigns manually. Then, identify what takes time and see if you can use software to speed up that particular process.

    Best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    So give an example of something magic submitter can't do that I can do manually? A lot of mystery and smoke and mirrors surrounds the truth
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Though I am a MS supporter I only recommend it for the ability to add your own link resources. If you are running it just with the included links its most likely a waste.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    So when you use the designer tab and add your own services you have noticed positive results vs not adding your own services?

    Would it be fair to say using scrapebox to find high pr relative blogs that are do follow and then manually leaving comments would be a better strategy
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    • Profile picture of the author JakeSEO
      Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

      So when you use the designer tab and add your own services you have noticed positive results vs not adding your own services?

      Would it be fair to say using scrapebox to find high pr relative blogs that are do follow and then manually leaving comments would be a better strategy
      The secret is to make things look natural.

      Learn how to makediversifiedsuccessfulSEO-campaigns manually. Once you have done that, you can start to experiment with tools to achieve the same results.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    i thought its the authority of the page your link comes back from? My stuff looks natural and is well 100%manually spun
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    still wondering if anyone has had success with ms?
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  • Profile picture of the author dbwebdesignz
    Message TheProgrammer, i think he deals with this a lot

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author ofpeb
    I thought it was good at first as it was reasonably priced for what they gave you but after I used it I saw the sites it was submitting to were unrelative to my keywords. A lot of junk sites. I wouldn't recommend it, but maybe others have utilized it in a better way.
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  • Profile picture of the author ofpeb
    I forgot that the guy who runs magic submitter is very helpful. He'll take ya by the hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author SocialDemon
    MS is much much better than Senuke simultaneously its cheap than SENuke. I cant understand why people use SENuke still when MS is there. Success rate of MS is much better than Senuke too. Its good and I think worth 57$ too.
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  • Profile picture of the author supertintin1
    I do not think that Ms is really good. After penguin and panda update, all kinds of software's seems crap to me. it is really difficult to make natural looking back links using software.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    I am using this method and its working well for me and much time consuming.

    Setup a full campaign in MS and create the backlinks. After getting backlinks setup this list in GSA SER and run the campaign on it with all the enabled options image comment, blog comment, social bookmark, etc..

    You'll see the Good SERPs result in 7days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenrick C
      Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

      I am using this method and its working well for me and much time consuming.

      Setup a full campaign in MS and create the backlinks. After getting backlinks setup this list in GSA SER and run the campaign on it with all the enabled options image comment, blog comment, social bookmark, etc..

      You'll see the Good SERPs result in 7days.
      If you do not mind me asking, what is your average daily captcha expense per MS campaign (with or without Captcha Sniper) for GSA SER? Finally, does GSA SER help convert the PR of the MS links from PR N/A or 0 to PR 1+?
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      • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
        Originally Posted by Kenrick C View Post

        If you do not mind me asking, what is your average daily captcha expense per MS campaign (with or without Captcha Sniper) for GSA SER? Finally, does GSA SER help convert the PR of the MS links from PR N/A or 0 to PR 1+?
        MS:
        I've not calculated the exact captcha figures and also i don't create accounts on daily basis, I use 10/15articles on per account. for ex: I submit 10/15 articles on per web2.0 (wordpress, livejournal etc..) so it'll also reduce the captcha costs.

        GSA:
        I always use Captcha Sniper with GSA SER, otherwise it'll eat up too much $$$ daily. I just focus on my serp movements, not on any other backlinks pr.
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    • Profile picture of the author codecreative
      Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

      I am using this method and its working well for me and much time consuming.

      Setup a full campaign in MS and create the backlinks. After getting backlinks setup this list in GSA SER and run the campaign on it with all the enabled options image comment, blog comment, social bookmark, etc..

      You'll see the Good SERPs result in 7days.
      Can you elaborate on this. I up until now have never read or heard or knew that something called GSA SER exists. Serp movement in just 7 days sounds great and is quite a bold claim!
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    • Profile picture of the author dannyl
      Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

      I am using this method and its working well for me and much time consuming.

      Setup a full campaign in MS and create the backlinks. After getting backlinks setup this list in GSA SER and run the campaign on it with all the enabled options image comment, blog comment, social bookmark, etc..

      You'll see the Good SERPs result in 7days.
      Hi,

      Thanks for the tip. I have just downloaded and installed SER and then setup a quick campaign just to get used to it and I can see it is creating the links.

      My question is, what is this doing that Magic Submitter can't? By the looks of things it is creating low quality links that you would expect to use for tier 2 links (forum profiles etc) but Magic Submitter can do all this to. Don't get me wrong I'm happy to try anything if it works and the cost for SER is pretty reasonable so I've no problem buying it I just wondered why the need for both SER and Magic Submitter.

      The one difference I thought it could be is with SER it looks like you can just create the campaign, click go and it will constantly create links until you stop which MS doesn't do. Is it something along these lines why you have started to use SER?

      Thanks,
      Dan
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      • Profile picture of the author codecreative
        Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

        Hi,

        Thanks for the tip. I have just downloaded and installed SER and then setup a quick campaign just to get used to it and I can see it is creating the links.

        My question is, what is this doing that Magic Submitter can't? By the looks of things it is creating low quality links that you would expect to use for tier 2 links (forum profiles etc) but Magic Submitter can do all this to. Don't get me wrong I'm happy to try anything if it works and the cost for SER is pretty reasonable so I've no problem buying it I just wondered why the need for both SER and Magic Submitter.

        The one difference I thought it could be is with SER it looks like you can just create the campaign, click go and it will constantly create links until you stop which MS doesn't do. Is it something along these lines why you have started to use SER?

        Thanks,
        Dan
        Hi Dan

        What kind of backlinks are you finding this program making for you does it differ from magic submitters type of backlinks?

        I am considering doing following suite and doing exactly the same which is why I ask
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        • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
          Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

          Hi,

          Thanks for the tip. I have just downloaded and installed SER and then setup a quick campaign just to get used to it and I can see it is creating the links.

          My question is, what is this doing that Magic Submitter can't? By the looks of things it is creating low quality links that you would expect to use for tier 2 links (forum profiles etc) but Magic Submitter can do all this to. Don't get me wrong I'm happy to try anything if it works and the cost for SER is pretty reasonable so I've no problem buying it I just wondered why the need for both SER and Magic Submitter.

          The one difference I thought it could be is with SER it looks like you can just create the campaign, click go and it will constantly create links until you stop which MS doesn't do. Is it something along these lines why you have started to use SER?

          Thanks,
          Dan
          In magic submitter you've to submit every campaign and it can submit to default sites that are pre-included in MS (if you've not setup your own list).

          GSA SER does support 100+ platforms and is one time set up and then auto search new links and submit yours on.

          I am recommending both because First create quality links (better use your own network sites) by using MS and then setup all those links to SER. Its very time consuming for teir2 backlinks either you can also do this in MS too.

          Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

          Hi Dan

          What kind of backlinks are you finding this program making for you does it differ from magic submitters type of backlinks?

          I am considering doing following suite and doing exactly the same which is why I ask
          SER support 100+ platforms.
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  • Profile picture of the author greatestmj
    Magic Submitter gives more for the price. I'm not debating on whether blasting techniques help you rank or not. A software will only give for what it promises. It is your strategies and techniques which will rank you. If you're interested in the kind of link building MS promises you, then its pretty good. It offers wide range of ways of link building, much better preferred than SEnuke.
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  • Profile picture of the author dannyl
    GSA SER is a completely different piece of software, I can't put links but if you search for it on Google its the first result.

    So is the general feeling that out of the box using the default sites that Magic Submitter provides and the various campaign templates, since Penguin/Panda updates, Magic Submitter is pretty much useless?
    I appreciate people might be having success when doing other link building alongside Magic Submitter but on that basis how do you know that the Magic Submitter side of things is making any difference at all and would you see the same results if you weren't running MS?

    From my experience I have not seen any good results at all from Magic Submitter after following many of the webinars and the methods they suggest. On one of the webinars they use an example graph on Majestic SEO showing an site with a consistent backlink profile with links added daily and suggest this is how your link profile should be and by using MS it will achieve this for you. I think this is a bit misleading as from what I have seen over the last few months, Majestic SEO has picked up very few links created with MS even though the links created are still valid.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by dannyl View Post


      I appreciate people might be having success when doing other link building alongside Magic Submitter
      No not alongside but inside of MS

      but on that basis how do you know that the Magic Submitter side of things is making any difference at all and would you see the same results if you weren't running MS?
      Its the automation of the process that MS provides. You are looking at it like the links it includes should be core to it while others see in it as an automation tool that allows them to more easily implement their own strategy. For example I use some WP blogs a bit in my networks run by me (and some customers). I can setup MS to fillout and link to various properties with a push of a button after I set it up. In the diagrammer I can change targets etc. How I use it, it's a tool like a saw or a hammer. I don't need it to be the building material too. If you are looking for a push button and I will rank software it doesn't exist - worse post Penguin.

      {quote]From my experience I have not seen any good results at all from Magic Submitter after following many of the webinars and the methods they suggest. [/quote]

      The links included are crappy. I like MS but they just are. I would never suggest it if you just want to use the same links everyone else is.


      Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

      My question is, what is this doing that Magic Submitter can't? By the looks of things it is creating low quality links that you would expect to use for tier 2 links (forum profiles etc) but Magic Submitter can do all this to. Don't get me wrong I'm happy to try anything if it works and the cost for SER is pretty reasonable so I've no problem buying it I just wondered why the need for both SER and Magic Submitter.
      SER is a VERY interesting beast. It does one very special thing that MS does not do and that is it scrapes Google and looks for the sites to submit to based on your keywords. I've been taking it out for a spin and its essentially on the path to being like scrapebox could be if they ever decided to add MS features (or I guess MS would be if they added scrapebox features)

      SER can't yet record any site like MS can but it solves part of the problem of submitting to the same sites - It comes with none at all. It has a built in engine that goes out scours Google for platforms (similar to scrapebox) and your keywords for each project. Wouldn't take that much to make SER into a white hat piece of software. Just a bit of imagination (has a scripting language to add anything you want but thats cumbersone to MS recording features).

      So I could totally see using both and After my five day trial I just might up and buy it. I already used it to find some sites and webmasters that I would not have contacted before.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    So is GSR + MS the way forward now?
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  • Profile picture of the author vaital
    I've used it for 2 years until i just did outsourcing. here's the problem:
    1. Sites constantly need updating and cause posting issues because of this.
    2. Once you run the whole software on a site, the next time around, you'll be getting links from the same sites again. SEs can see this and don't reward the second round nearly as much as the first.
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  • Profile picture of the author dannyl
    Many thanks for the replies. After using SER for the last day I can definately see the benefits in it when it comes to the sites it submits to over MS, especially when it comes to your tier 2 links.

    The Programmer - after using SER for a while have you got any tips for improving the performance of it? Have you tried using private proxys with it and if so was there a big improvement over using the ones it scrapes for?

    One thing I've noticed is that although I have got quite a lot of verified links now over the various platforms, none of them are blog comments. Do these links never go into the verified section? I know a lot of blog comments are pre-aprrove but I thought I might see the odd one verified straight away.

    In the screenshot above with all the platforms, is that how you have it setup, ie without article directories selected?


    Thanks again
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    • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
      Originally Posted by dannyl View Post

      Many thanks for the replies. After using SER for the last day I can definately see the benefits in it when it comes to the sites it submits to over MS, especially when it comes to your tier 2 links.

      The Programmer - after using SER for a while have you got any tips for improving the performance of it? Have you tried using private proxys with it and if so was there a big improvement over using the ones it scrapes for?

      One thing I've noticed is that although I have got quite a lot of verified links now over the various platforms, none of them are blog comments. Do these links never go into the verified section? I know a lot of blog comments are pre-aprrove but I thought I might see the odd one verified straight away.

      In the screenshot above with all the platforms, is that how you have it setup, ie without article directories selected?


      Thanks again
      Yes i tested this method on two of my newly born sites and both are on first page of google on low and medium competition keywords. I always use private proxies with it to speed the process of link building, because public proxies are very slow in speed and with low success rate.

      Due to massive spam from the scrapebox users, now many of the blogs are "on moderation". But blog comments also show in verified section if it found your comment on auto approve blogs.

      haha, currently i am running 8 campaigns in SER. so every campaign has its own rules :p

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      • Profile picture of the author codecreative
        Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

        Yes i tested this method on two of my newly born sites and both are on first page of google on low and medium competition keywords. I always use private proxies with it to speed the process of link building, because public proxies are very slow in speed and with low success rate.

        Due to massive spam from the scrapebox users, now many of the blogs are "on moderation". But blog comments also show in verified section if it found your comment on auto approve blogs.

        haha, currently i am running 8 campaigns in SER. so every campaign has its own rules :p

        Welcome
        How long does it take generally, as a rough approximation for you to see results once gsr is beefing up your ms backlinks?
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        • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
          Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

          How long does it take generally, as a rough approximation for you to see results once gsr is beefing up your ms backlinks?
          In one of my site i achieved the first page on main keyword in 15/20 days due to continuously running of SER and on the second site main keyword google dancing on 27-35.
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          • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
            Well, if you don't know how to run an SEO campaign then MS isn't going to help you. I watched the tutorial vids and I laughed at how simple the "strategy" is. I thought maybe that's because those are just intro vids so I checked the Advanced vids about campaign management and laughed, too. It's so simple no wonder ppl aren't having success. It's like Kindergarten SEO. I don't understand why the dev, Alex, won't just hire an SEO guy to do the SEO vids and not the regular tutorial voice-over guy. Have the regular guy (David, I think) do all the Q&As and hire some other guy (not me) to do SEO vids.

            Now, if you apply proper link building techniques like setting up a pyramid, setting up your T1s, setting up your T2s, setting up your base tier, setting up your indexing sites, etc. then you'll be able to see the power of MS.

            But if you just do bookmark this, blog that, submit to these sites, submit to those, etc. then I'll be jumping ahead of you everytime in the SERPs.

            Learn SEO first, learn how properly setup a campaign, then use MS. It seems the OP is just using MS to automate link building which is only 1/2 of the battle and is not using the tool to its full power.

            As they say, "Blame the carpenter, not the tool."
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            • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
              Look at their competitor, SENukeX---they have one guy doing the simple Q&A vids and they have another guy doing SEO vids. OP, check this out as SENukeX's SEO vids might help you - SEnuke X, SEnuke Blog - SE Nuke, Search Engine Optimization Software

              Go over the last 10 or so vids then apply what you've learned to implementing a campaign using MS. I will advise you though not to follow the SENukeX guy 100% but he is superior to Magic Submitter's tutorial/video guy by at least 457% (and I'm being generous).
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            • Profile picture of the author dannyl
              Originally Posted by Suir1980 View Post

              Well, if you don't know how to run an SEO campaign then MS isn't going to help you. I watched the tutorial vids and I laughed at how simple the "strategy" is. I thought maybe that's because those are just intro vids so I checked the Advanced vids about campaign management and laughed, too. It's so simple no wonder ppl aren't having success. It's like Kindergarten SEO. I don't understand why the dev, Alex, won't just hire an SEO guy to do the SEO vids and not the regular tutorial voice-over guy. Have the regular guy (David, I think) do all the Q&As and hire some other guy (not me) to do SEO vids.

              Now, if you apply proper link building techniques like setting up a pyramid, setting up your T1s, setting up your T2s, setting up your base tier, setting up your indexing sites, etc. then you'll be able to see the power of MS.

              But if you just do bookmark this, blog that, submit to these sites, submit to those, etc. then I'll be jumping ahead of you everytime in the SERPs.

              Learn SEO first, learn how properly setup a campaign, then use MS. It seems the OP is just using MS to automate link building which is only 1/2 of the battle and is not using the tool to its full power.

              As they say, "Blame the carpenter, not the tool."
              Is this something you have done with MS and had some success with using the default sites in the last few months since Penguin?

              I have done all this using the templates with 2 and 3 tiers and created my own 3 tier campaign using the appropriate modules and the links are still valid to this day but the results have been negligible.
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    Your site may not be moving up the ladder because of stiff competition or the other guys are also working on their sites in terms of SEO. You just need to be aggressive and focus on building quality links.
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    bump..................
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Magic now has the ability to scrape for new sites based on your keywords, without needing to use the designer.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohntheGreat
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Magic now has the ability to scrape for new sites based on your keywords, without needing to use the designer.
      Yeah! It's the new harvest feature but as of now it's not that powerful yet. Though I'm a big fun of MS and an avid user too but the harvest feature is nothing compare to scrapebox. Of course scraping is not the main purpose of MS but hopefully Alex can improve it soon.
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    Has anyone been able to reset the trial on that thing?
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