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I'm pretty new to this but learning quickly. I have been using SEO Spyware link assitant to track my competitors links and have been surprised with the tricks which seem to be working for the top listed sites. Plenty of non related links and low value links also. I have a couple of questions:
  • I have been alternating my time between building relationships for guest posting and doing lower value comments on blogs and posting articles in article sites. How is it best to spend my time. Do these spammy zero value links matter at all?
  • Are nofollow links of any benefit at all?
  • How long before I can start showing up in google searches?
Thanks in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    So assuming you've done your technical SEO, completed onPage SEO, the next step is link building (social media would go hand in hand with link building)

    guest posting imo is better than blog comments but the chances are it's a no follow. The argument is that a natural looking link profile will contain no follow links. Maybe Google uses that factor in its ranking process.

    In my experience, Google works on a 90-120 cycle but for one of my clients, its been over a 6 month period, (we have top 3 rankings for local terms excluding Google places)

    This is assuming you get a good "strong link".

    My question to you is, do you know what a good link looks like? Do you have your own criteria.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentimplants
    Not sure if my developer has done the technical SEO.

    By onpage SEO are you talking about my internal links and use of key search term?

    For me a strong link is a dofollow from a PR 3 or higher in google with less than 25 external links. Ideally it is from another website in my industry. What are your criteria?
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  • Profile picture of the author dagnyjbarber
    Content is the king remember. Updated content is really very important. I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidfrankk
    Don't follow the black hat techniques your competitor is using. Follow the basic practices, focus on quality and be patient. Sooner or later they will fall and you will rise !
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentimplants
    I'm thinking of putting loads of links out there just to get started. Once I have a number of "easy links" (message boards, blog comments, directories) I will focus more on content.... Is it advisable to use a combination of the 2?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentimplants
    Also, I'm using Spyware but this doesn't seem to be picking up the links I'm creating. Has anyone experienced this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
      In my opinion content is far more important then links when starting a site, this is backed up by the fact with each update by Google content becomes more and more the focus.

      The next important thing is pacing your link building on new pages, I always start with a post on my site's social fan pages. This gets the page generally indexed by Google in about 72 hours for me. Most of the time I will purchase 50 web 2.0 accounts and each day I create a supporting article on one in addition to creating bookmarks for that new page. All this time I am also bookmarking the main page as well.

      Keep in mind I have only been doing this for 6 months so my strategy is constantly changing and evolving.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dentimplants
        Thanks Nelapsi. Where do you buy the 50 web2.0 accounts? What's the benefit of this?
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        • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
          Originally Posted by Dentimplants View Post

          Thanks Nelapsi. Where do you buy the 50 web2.0 accounts? What's the benefit of this?
          Fiverr and because I am that lazy. Actually creating accounts is very time consuming when it comes down to it, so I take the best of both worlds. I let someone do the grunt work for 5 dollars and I ensure and control the quality of the link.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
          Originally Posted by Dentimplants View Post

          Thanks Nelapsi. Where do you buy the 50 web2.0 accounts? What's the benefit of this?
          Unless you do heavy promotiong of these web2.0 accounts, I personally believe you're wasting your time. It's like getting a vote from a person that has no credibility.

          Google views links like votes, the better quality the vote, the better the SEO benefit.

          1 good link (may cost $100+ will trump 100 web2.0 accounts.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
            Originally Posted by Michael Nguyen View Post

            Unless you do heavy promotiong of these web2.0 accounts, I personally believe you're wasting your time. It's like getting a vote from a person that has no credibility.

            Google views links like votes, the better quality the vote, the better the SEO benefit.

            1 good link (may cost $100+ will trump 100 web2.0 accounts.
            No debate there but this is just the first steps, not complete process. As far as Google goes during the last few months of updates my pages have improved and not declined. I was merely providing information concerning the process I take when I first create a page. Sure I could of just answered with, go out and get a bunch of PR 9 links and you will be fine but that doesn't sound like much of an answer to me.
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            • Profile picture of the author aygabtu
              1) Pick the right keywords and niche
              2) Review on-page SEO
              3) Create Facebook and twitter pages
              4) Submit sitemap to google, yahoo, bing
              5) Submit to some of the top free and paid directories within your budget
              6) Review on-page SEO again
              7) Find some message board/blog opportunities to manually post your link
              8) Get your friends involved in posting some backlinks
              9) Review on-page SEO again
              10) Sign up for adwords to draw traffic to your site. This shouldn't be too early because you want to refine your site a bit before you shell out money for people to visit it

              During this time make sure you should be monitoring your keywords with a good SERP tool.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
      Originally Posted by Dentimplants View Post

      Also, I'm using Spyware but this doesn't seem to be picking up the links I'm creating. Has anyone experienced this?
      I don't use it, I just use Google's webmaster tools. The reason for this is because if google doesn't see it then it doesn't matter as far as google search is concerned. So why bother? A quick look at Alexa will tell me basically what others have done in that niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansie koch
    You should be doing some web 2.0 pages as well, they add authority to your site when you link back, and you use them as buffer sites- so you can do wiki and comment blast of thousands on them without the risk of damaging your money site. Create video's, pdf's and FB pages to link back as well. make it all natural so as time goes by increase your efforts by adding more such links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentimplants
    Can you give some examples of good web 2.0 sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author Aarav
      I recommend here 3 main step of SEO:

      1> Make errors free & proper website with fresh, unique, relevant and quality content
      2> Do proper On-Page Optimization
      3> Do different Link building tactics with quality & unique content on Authorized sites
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      • Profile picture of the author kdbbdk
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        Originally Posted by Aarav View Post

        I recommend here 3 main step of SEO:

        1> Make errors free & proper website with fresh, unique, relevant and quality content
        2> Do proper On-Page Optimization
        3> Do different Link building tactics with quality & unique content on Authorized sites

        this is my answer too , try to do some onpage its important
        and for linkbuilding dont stick to just one strategy
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