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If you hate Google so much why don't you just quit

by nest28
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I've looked at the "Google will be rolling out another penguin update" threads and saw nothing but hate filled comments from most wf members. In the past whenever I hated a job that much I simply quit, if you think Google is out to get you, and you hate them , why are you still making sites?

Why not just quit, it would be better than complaining every time there's a new update. I never see any of the senior members complain, Yukon,Paulgl,both Mikes etc, because they know what there doing, I highly doubt any of them builds sites with emd, and build links using some kind of software or fiverr gigs.

While the masses build sites based on 1,000 visitors a month someone like Yukon would simply build a page, knowing him 3 pages so he get's triple listing has he always says .

Bottom line do things the right way and you wont have anything to fear. You don't like being a internet marketer just quit.


Edit: What is there for Google to like about internet marketers anyways, most IMer's are like locus they spread to certain niches and take as much as possible and leave nothing behind except a bunch of 1 page emd ugly a$$ sites. The other day I was looking for a domain name and every possible variation was taken, and when I looked at the sites all of them would be considered crap by anyone's standards. I was actually kinda pissed that I couldn't even find a domain close to the keyword I was going after because people bought them and didn't even build good sites.

If I were Google I would trying get rid of IMer's to.

Please if you leave any comments let it be about the discussion and not me, for some reason whenever I make a thread I get insulting comments that have nothing to do with the topic.
#google #hate #quit
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    There's a thin line difference between hate and frustration.
    Accept it, adapt to it....can't? Move the heck out!
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  • Profile picture of the author legoog8
    i dont use google adsense because i hate google
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by legoog8 View Post

      i dont use google adsense because i hate google
      That's just plain silly, but reiterates the OP's thinking. Now google
      owns a zillion companies, including the one that runs the majority of
      smartphones. I assume you own an iphone, and probably don't
      use youtube either, as google owns youtube.

      Did you also know they own reCAPTCHA? Man that's everywhere...
      including facebook and twitter...do you not you those either?!?!?

      "I'm not using twitter because they use reCAPTCHA and google owns that."

      If you don't use google products because you hate google, man
      that's just inane.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
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    Simple as that, most are just doing crap SEO. If you've learnt SEO from the IM niche then all you're gonna hear is article submissions, profile links, bookmarks etc I know, I've been there.

    3 things that make a good SEO:

    1. Good on page
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Really I think people just love to hate things.

    Look at some of the highest traffic videos on Youtube & a lot of times you'll see thousands of comments with nothing good to say, just people arguing & hating on the video or each other, yet the video might have 20 million views.

    Also reminds me of a bumper sticker I found at a store in Myrtle Beach that read "I hate Mean People" (get it?) the person saying it is mean, they must hate their self.
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  • Profile picture of the author K Mec
    We can not ignore Google by any means whether it is good or bad. They are the people who revolutionize the internet.

    There is no sense of hating Google. The matter of question is how to treat Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I could be wrong but I just don't see Google sitting around plotting the end of all internet marketers. I mean it's as if people imagine Matt Cutts and the Google spam team are the legion of doom or something.

    I try to see things from every point of view, I'm a marketer so it's easy for me so see things as one, but try thinking of things from Google's stand point. Most IMer's are spamming the internet. They don't even respect it, and you can tell by the sites they make.

    I was recently building a simple site, just about a product for men, so I started working on the template and this wasn't right and that wasn't right now a week later I still see things wrong. When someone visits my site I want them to have the best experience possible, in return the money will come. Point is I was going to make it a simple site but I put so much time in the now I have to grow it out to justify all the time I put in it so far.


    When you mass producing sites you don't care about your visitors, just the money, you don't car about Google and there rules, so why should they care about you.


    I challenge you to name 5 good things about the common Imer.
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    • Profile picture of the author ilee
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      When you mass producing sites you don't care about your visitors, just the money, you don't car about Google and there rules, so why should they care about you.
      Don't get confused, your website can still offer visitors something useful even if you don't care. Not caring about visitors isn't a problem, the problem is with sites not contributing anything useful to the web.
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  • Profile picture of the author TuNguyen
    lol the thread title says it all.

    Nice one.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Remember a few years back when people were going to protest the BIG oil companies & not buy gas for an entire day? They were trying to get everyone to jump in & put a dent in BIG oils pocket.

    What those people didn't comprehend is, even If they don't use that product (BIG oil) today, they will use it tomorrow. So basically nothing would have changed considering BIG oil doesn't look at daily income as much as they look at quarterly profits.

    Some people get so pissed off at things, they just can't see straight or think clearly.

    My point is, I'm sure the people that hate on Google still use Google products for personal things (search, email, etc...). They just want something to complain about because it makes them feel like not ranking in the SERPs isn't their fault, it's easier to pass blame than do work.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I always blame myself before I would another person or entity. For a long time I kept thinking I know enough to make money online so why hasn't it happen, than it did and it was taken away shortly after. I build crappy links to my sites, so it's not Google's fault but my own.

    I understand getting angry, there were times when I just felt like giving up, or angry at the world, like damn I'm smart guy why am I not able to make a constant income ,month in and month out, even now I'm a little fearful of what this new update will bring, but at the same time I don't really care. I mean if this is going to be my profession, and I'm in it for the long haul , than why would I care about every update.

    If I'm planning on doing internet market there will be plenty of updates in the years to come, the best we can do is build quality sites, with quality links.

    Hating Google will not lead you to your goals, it's also funny that most people that hate Google probably make up the majority of marketers that spam the net, considering the pros love Google and it only seems to be a few of those type marketers around.



    Hate is the path to the darkside lol, and no I'm not some star wars geek. I just happening to watch it all the time that's all.
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    • Profile picture of the author rinor81
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      If I'm planning on doing internet market there will be plenty of updates in the years to come, the best we can do is build quality sites, with quality links
      I couldn't agree more. I was one of the marketers that got pissed off at Google with its updates, my sites are now nowhere to be seen and they were page 1 for a year or more...trying now where to get quality links, even before I always built links manually.

      If not press release, guest blog and so on, what else? Ideas?

      The goal now is to build big and interesting sites, passing the news from word to mouth and not just Google but I always wonder how do you people get quality links and if it costs a lot. I know guest posts are a great way for quality links but most come on pages with PR 0.

      I know I'm a bit off topic here but just wanted to hear the pros suggestions.

      Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by rinor81 View Post

        I couldn't agree more. I was one of the marketers that got pissed off at Google with its updates, my sites are now nowhere to be seen and they were page 1 for a year or more...trying now where to get quality links, even before I always built links manually.

        If not press release, guest blog and so on, what else? Ideas?

        The goal now is to build big and interesting sites, passing the news from word to mouth and not just Google but I always wonder how do you people get quality links and if it costs a lot. I know guest posts are a great way for quality links but most come on pages with PR 0.

        I know I'm a bit off topic here but just wanted to hear the pros suggestions.

        Thank you.
        Lately I've been hearing a lot of talk about buying domains with existing pr, or renting/buying high pr links. It seems to be the best you could do right now, social bookmarks, web 2.0 and article links wont last much longer, real sites don't have that kind of link profile. So neither should we.

        If you wont to succeed the best advice I could give you is to come on the warrior forum see what the masses are doing and do the complete opposite.
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      • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
        Originally Posted by rinor81 View Post

        I couldn't agree more. I was one of the marketers that got pissed off at Google with its updates, my sites are now nowhere to be seen and they were page 1 for a year or more...trying now where to get quality links, even before I always built links manually.

        If not press release, guest blog and so on, what else? Ideas?

        The goal now is to build big and interesting sites, passing the news from word to mouth and not just Google but I always wonder how do you people get quality links and if it costs a lot. I know guest posts are a great way for quality links but most come on pages with PR 0.

        I know I'm a bit off topic here but just wanted to hear the pros suggestions.

        Thank you.
        From about 2008 until 2011 I made my first full-time income without Google, but by posting about 40 ads a day on Craigslist. I stayed under the radar even though Craigslist was continually strengthening their war on "spam" (of course my ads weren't "spam"). Then, someone copied my ads word-for-word and put up their own site. They posed hundreds of ads every day. Now, I think in large measure, due to that guy's greed, it's just not cost effective for me to keep ads on Craigslist to make $2 to $3 per ad. I had to move on.

        In 2011 I began going the route of the 90% here and did the EMD thing and bought fiverr gigs that got me back to a full-time income in a few short months. Then I lost 3 sites that made 90% of my income in April.

        NOW, I've settled on ONE niche and a FEW sites. I have a dozen feeder sites in the same niche. These aren't one page sites, but actual sites I'm working to raise the pagerank (pr3 is my first goal).

        I think there's more security in a dozen powerful backllinks than 1,000 risky NA links. The good news is real pagerank is not what you see in the google toolbar, so you can get "instant" benefit as those sites rise.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by rinor81 View Post

        I couldn't agree more. I was one of the marketers that got pissed off at Google with its updates, my sites are now nowhere to be seen and they were page 1 for a year or more...trying now where to get quality links, even before I always built links manually.

        If not press release, guest blog and so on, what else? Ideas?

        The goal now is to build big and interesting sites, passing the news from word to mouth and not just Google but I always wonder how do you people get quality links and if it costs a lot. I know guest posts are a great way for quality links but most come on pages with PR 0.

        I know I'm a bit off topic here but just wanted to hear the pros suggestions.

        Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Why not just quit, it would be better than complaining every time there's a new update. I never see any of the senior members complain, Yukon,Paulgl,both Mikes etc,
    Senior members? Who you callin Senior? Does that mean we get half price off on WSOs cause Denny's is still charging me full price.

    What is there for Google to like about internet marketers anyways
    oh oh. My man Nest done lost his GPS

    most IMer's are like locus they spread to certain niches and take as much as possible and leave nothing behind except a bunch of 1 page emd ugly a$$ sites.The other day I was looking for a domain name and every possible variation was taken, and when I looked at the sites all of them would be considered crap by anyone's standards. I was actually kinda pissed that I couldn't even find a domain close to the keyword I was going after because people bought them and didn't even build good sites.

    If I were Google I would trying get rid of IMer's to. "
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    You know you done up and did it when Mike Anthony goes to the microwave to grab some popcorn but to be constructive- She will come back. Just listen to Beyonce this time and put the ring where its supposed to be.

    Whats up bro? One of my favorite posters but um usually a bit more upbeat
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Senior members? Who you callin Senior? Does that mean we get half price off on WSOs cause Denny's is still charging me full price.



      oh oh. My man Nest done lost his GPS



      You know you done up and did it when Mike Anthony goes to the microwave to grab some popcorn but to be constructive- She will come back. Just listen to Beyonce this time and put the ring where its supposed to be.

      Whats up bro? One of my favorite posters but um usually a bit more upbeat
      You got me cracking up over here. I actually really like my fellow marketers. I'm talking as if I were in Google shoes, I mean from there point of view were gaming there system, basically cheaters. They have no reason to like us, but for some reason most IMer's are surprised when they make updates specifically to make things harder for us.

      In recent days I've seen why they don't like us, like I said, while searching for a domain name related to my keyword I saw literally about 60 variations, and when I checked the sites, half weren't even finished ,some were those ugly green and black sites that I hate, some were amazon affiliates, but with like 4 ads all around the content,and they all had crap links.

      All of that was from just 1 keyword. So that experience gave me a better insight to how Google must feel about us. I'm sure every now and again Google employees search the net to find things for there personal life.

      Like imagine Matt Cutts wants a lawn mower and ends up with 4 of of the 10 search results being amazon review sites.

      I'm not saying I personally dislike marketers but some are really polluting the net.



      By senior member I mean those who know there stuff, the ones who never ask questions but provide answers. Understand now old guy jk.
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    That's the nature of mankind. What's the big deal here really

    People complain about everything under the sun that doesn't go the way they want. Some do it as a bad habit. Some just follow the masses. And of course, there are some who know that it's a bad thing to do but still do it anyway because of some unknown reasons. Don't believe me? Then ask yourself. I don't think that there are people here who haven't complained about or hated anything in their lives. We're just human.

    But in the end, the people who stop whining and start doing real things to improve the situation will be the winners. And in the next time they fall down, they will remember how they reacted the previous time and don't do anything silly or stupid. And I believe that's how all of us learn to stay calm during the hard times. We grow as we keep moving.

    For the people who keep crying and spreading the BS, stop paying attention to them. Instead focus the energy on the activities that matter. They don't deserve to participate in the game at the very beginning anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author legoog8
    That's just plain silly, but reiterates the OP's thinking. Now google
    owns a zillion companies, including the one that runs the majority of
    smartphones. I assume you own an iphone, and probably don't
    use youtube either, as google owns youtube.

    Did you also know they own reCAPTCHA? Man that's everywhere...
    including facebook and twitter...do you not you those either?!?!?

    "I'm not using twitter because they use reCAPTCHA and google owns that."

    If you don't use google products because you hate google, man
    that's just inane.

    I didnt know they owned recaptcha I REALLY HATE THEM NOW!

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    you absolutely right, content is king, if you don't put an effort on a truly good contant that people would like then don't expect that google will like it too.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Not gonna lie. I have a few of those ugly sites lol but I'm still learning. The reason why I don't cry about Google is because Im a realist and I KNOW I don't deserve to rank those sites anyways. I consider it theft on my part for making the money when I did.

    I'm starting to understand how to create better content and I'm excited about Google updates. I know most people will quit because of frustration or resources. That puts me in a prime spot to succeed because I'm willing to do what it takes no matter how long and I have resources that I've built up over the years.

    Bring it on Google. Can't wait for the next update. I actually love seeing all the crying threads. Entertainment. Especially when the "seniors" are on attack mode lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      Especially when the "seniors" are on attack mode lol.
      Like the expendables lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Like the expendables lol
        Don't think I don;t see what you did there. Trying to compare me to old sly stall himself. You will start another thread and I will go all Rambo/Balboa on you (and yeah you know I can do it) and not even Adrian can hold me back, You are just lucky my plastic surgeon said I can't get angry for the next two weeks.

        (sorry Sly - that last line was cold)

        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I challenge you to name 5 good things about the common Imer.
        PHfft thats easy

        1) The common Imer never says quit. Even if it nevers makes him rank he will still spam.
        2) Common Imers are avid readers and support literacy (with long sales letters that force you to buy just so you can find out what the offer is about without having to read the rest of the sales letter. Still you will get the surgeon General's minimum suggested reading of 15 pages just by attempting to read one)
        3) Imers have no prejudice whatsoever . They will take your money for their PDF whether you are old, young , black, white or blind - even with with no Braille version. woof woof. Equality for all
        4) The common Imers support technological advance. If you can click on mouse buttons, it accepts proxies and can break or intercept captchas we are all for software that evolves past having to use archaic brain or even finger muscles. If we could wear tin foil hats like in Shyamalan's Signs and interface with it on the couch using potato chips all the better.
        5) The common Imer is the most optimistic idealistic people you will ever find. they will buy 530 WSOs that never work and look over the next offer like it just might be the one.

        BONUS round

        6) the common Imer cares about your interests no matter how odd or limited they are - if you want to learn about Pink antique Indian slippers with sandstone beading they will take the time and effort to make sure that there is a site tht will come up when you search for it
        7) The common Imer always has you in mind to save you money. Instead of selling something for $100 they will sell it for $97. Instead of $80 they will sell it for $77 Instead of 50 they's let it go for $47. Its always about saving the buyer $3


        Five things? IF I had the space I could spin 50O more. Amatuers.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Don't think I don;t see what you did there. Trying to compare me to old sly stall himself. You will start another thread and I will go all Rambo/Balboa on you (and yeah you know I can do it) and not even Adrian can hold me back, You are just lucky my plastic surgeon said I can't get angry for the next two weeks.

          (sorry Sly - that last line was cold)



          PHfft thats easy

          1) The common Imer never says quit. Even if it nevers makes him rank he will still spam.
          2) Common Imers are avid readers and support literacy (with long sales letters that force you to buy just so you can find out what the offer is about without having to read the rest of the sales letter. Still you will get the surgeon General's minimum suggested reading of 15 pages just by attempting to read one)
          3) Imers have no prejudice whatsoever . They will take your money for their PDF whether you are old, young , black, white or blind - even with with no Braille version. woof woof. Equality for all
          4) The common Imers support technological advance. If you can click on mouse buttons, it accepts proxies and can break or intercept captchas we are all for software that evolves past having to use archaic brain or even finger muscles. If we could wear tin foil hats like in Shyamalan's Signs and interface with it on the couch using potato chips all the better.
          5) The common Imer is the most optimistic idealistic people you will ever find. they will buy 530 WSOs that never work and look over the next offer like it just might be the one.

          BONUS round

          6) the common Imer cares about your interests no matter how odd or limited they are - if you want to learn about Pink antique Indian slippers with sandstone beading they will take the time and effort to make sure that there is a site tht will come up when you search for it
          7) The common Imer always has you in mind to save you money. Instead of selling something for $100 they will sell it for $97. Instead of $80 they will sell it for $77 Instead of 50 they's let it go for $47. Its always about saving the buyer $3


          Five things? IF I had the space I could spin 50O more. Amatuers.
          I stand corrected lol, I had no idea you were this funny. This post and the one about Mike's Brittany Spears rant should have like a hundred thanks. Sly might be the oldest cast member from the expendables but he's in much better shape than most 20 yr olds, even if he is on steroids, not even Arnold maintained is body.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            I stand corrected lol, I had no idea you were this funny. This post and the one about Mike's Brittany Spears rant should have like a hundred thanks. .
            Well thats because I am thought of as the angry poster who will put you in line at the drop of a hat. I'm actually not like that generally and this thread has made me think. Maybe the reason is because I have been where you are heading

            I in fact may not like marketers or definitely not the kind that is significantly represented here. How I see life , SEO and marketing is probably water and some people's outlook and views on here are oil to me. We just don't mix. Might be time to move along. After the next Google update I think this forum will be absolutely intolerable anyway.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Well thats because I am thought of as the angry poster who will put you in line at the drop of a hat. I'm actually not like that generally and this thread has made me think. Maybe the reason is because I have been where you are heading

              I in fact may not like marketers or definitely not the kind that is significantly represented here. How I see life , SEO and marketing is probably water and some people's outlook and views on here are oil to me. We just don't mix. Might be time to move along. After the next Google update I think this forum will be absolutely intolerable anyway.
              I never really thought of you as angry, Paulgl maybe lol , but I understand what you mean about this forum. Many times I have made threads trying to get marketers to move in the right direction, only to be called a troll, or to have people say I'm some kind of know it all.


              All these insults just for saying build quality sites, I will never understand why some IMer's want to be known for crap. I want anything that comes from me to be of the highest quality possible, not to mention when you see the big picture that when the money comes in.

              When you stop making emds, and backlinking using the same methods as everybody else , that's when you'll see a real break through. Now I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because recently I've bought 2 domain names that are close to being exact, but I just wanted to do some testing with them. My goal is, and will always be, to have one authority site that makes me all the money I'll ever need.

              There have been plenty times where I've felt sick and tired of this forum, because of the mentally of the masses, they seem to be follows, willing to do anything somebody tells them to do, they seem to be buyers, willing to buy as many WSOs as it takes to make money online.

              We are here to be our own bosses, we are here to be the sellers not buyers. When I see these amazon review sites, and mfa sites, I just think these people are not serious about making money online, and most will fail.


              Just to clarify things I make 0 right now, and due to some personal problems I wasn't working as much as I should have been lately, but know this, 3 months from now I will defiantly have some kind of income to report.


              My only other goal is to find out where I can buy/rent high pr links , I really want to get away from article,social,web 2.0 links because google knows we use them, and when they start to penalized sites for having those type of link profiles I don't want to be in the same boat as most of the I hate Google fanatics.
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                My only other goal is to find out where I can buy/rent high pr links , I really want to get away from article,social,web 2.0 links because google knows we use them, and when they start to penalized sites for having those type of link profiles I don't want to be in the same boat as most of the I hate Google fanatics.
                Why buy or rent high PR links when you can buy high PR domains?
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  Why buy or rent high PR links when you can buy high PR domains?
                  I don't know anything about that, than I saw people saying there were sites with fake pr. Paying for hosting,using wordpress,Class C ip addresses or any other platform other than blogger would be new for me, that would mean taking extra time out to learn a bunch of new things that would take e away from building new sites.

                  Don't get me wrong, I am willing to learn these things if it leads to ranking my sites. In order to get to the next level of marketing I know these are all things I need to learn.


                  Edit: Actually as a temporary solution I was actually thinking of using your service.
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                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                    Personally I think high PR domains are more useful when you have many sites to rank. If you just focus on 1 authority site then it could be cheaper to just buy or rent links indeed. With 20 high PR domains you can easily rank 50-100 micro niche sites, but with authority sites you can't keep on linking from the same domains all the way as it would screw your IP diversity pretty much. Although it's not entirely true cause you can always use web2.0's or other links as buffer in between.

                    My current packages are primarly based on high PR links, I quit doing doc sharing, video submissions, social signals, free pressrelease sites as the effect took quiet long to kick in and it was also much less then a bunch of high PR links. A month or 2 ago when I was building up my network I had a client complain why it took so long before she saw effect. I said to her, okay I'll add a PR4 link to you at my brand new site, she was ranking at page 2 for her keyword, pretty easy one btw, 1 week after I placed the PR4 she ranked at position 2 / page 1. I knew those links are effective but especially from that day I started to invest heavily in my network to make a crazy good package.

                    So yeah definitely worth to check it out. The only down side right now is that the turn around time is 3 weeks at the moment not that I sell so many of these packages as the majority still thinks more links = better, but the monthly service is running pretty hot at the moment, so overall got nothing to complain really

                    Btw to learn more about high PR domains you should definitely check out this thread:

                    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ng-thread.html

                    Bnetwork summed up a pretty solid foundation

                    Also you can check out this one:

                    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-602-sold.html

                    It's a paid membership to a private forum that is all about setting up a private network and it's pretty cheap to join. The nice thing about it is that there are quiet a few successful people out there who take action and the total noob level is a lot lower then at free forums.
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                    • Profile picture of the author nest28
                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                      Personally I think high PR domains are more useful when you have many sites to rank. If you just focus on 1 authority site then it could be cheaper to just buy or rent links indeed. With 20 high PR domains you can easily rank 50-100 micro niche sites, but with authority sites you can't keep on linking from the same domains all the way as it would screw your IP diversity pretty much. Although it's not entirely true cause you can always use web2.0's or other links as buffer in between.

                      My current packages are primarly based on high PR links, I quit doing doc sharing, video submissions, social signals, free pressrelease sites as the effect took quiet long to kick in and it was also much less then a bunch of high PR links. A month or 2 ago when I was building up my network I had a client complain why it took so long before she saw effect. I said to her, okay I'll add a PR4 link to you at my brand new site, she was ranking at page 2 for her keyword, pretty easy one btw, 1 week after I placed the PR4 she ranked at position 2 / page 1. I knew those links are effective but especially from that day I started to invest heavily in my network to make a crazy good package.

                      So yeah definitely worth to check it out. The only down side right now is that the turn around time is 3 weeks at the moment not that I sell so many of these packages as the majority still thinks more links = better, but the monthly service is running pretty hot at the moment, so overall got nothing to complain really

                      Btw to learn more about high PR domains you should definitely check out this thread:

                      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ng-thread.html

                      Bnetwork summed up a pretty solid foundation

                      Also you can check out this one:

                      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-602-sold.html

                      It's a paid membership to a private forum that is all about setting up a private network and it's pretty cheap to join. The nice thing about it is that there are quiet a few successful people out there who take action and the total noob level is a lot lower then at free forums.
                      Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, and I'll check out your service in about 2 weeks in the mean time.
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              • Profile picture of the author ilee
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                I never really thought of you as angry, Paulgl maybe lol , but I understand what you mean about this forum. Many times I have made threads trying to get marketers to move in the right direction, only to be called a troll, or to have people say I'm some kind of know it all.


                All these insults just for saying build quality sites, I will never understand why some IMer's want to be known for crap. I want anything that comes from me to be of the highest quality possible, not to mention when you see the big picture that when the money comes in.

                When you stop making emds, and backlinking using the same methods as everybody else , that's when you'll see a real break through. Now I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because recently I've bought 2 domain names that are close to being exact, but I just wanted to do some testing with them. My goal is, and will always be, to have one authority site that makes me all the money I'll ever need.

                There have been plenty times where I've felt sick and tired of this forum, because of the mentally of the masses, they seem to be follows, willing to do anything somebody tells them to do, they seem to be buyers, willing to buy as many WSOs as it takes to make money online.

                We are here to be our own bosses, we are here to be the sellers not buyers. When I see these amazon review sites, and mfa sites, I just think these people are not serious about making money online, and most will fail.


                Just to clarify things I make 0 right now, and due to some personal problems I wasn't working as much as I should have been lately, but know this, 3 months from now I will defiantly have some kind of income to report.


                My only other goal is to find out where I can buy/rent high pr links , I really want to get away from article,social,web 2.0 links because google knows we use them, and when they start to penalized sites for having those type of link profiles I don't want to be in the same boat as most of the I hate Google fanatics.
                That's inspirational and everything but just out of curiosity, you're saying in the past 2 years you've been a member here you haven't earned anything or you've just stopped earning recently?
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by ichl13 View Post

                  That's inspirational and everything but just out of curiosity, you're saying in the past 2 years you've been a member here you haven't earned anything or you've just stopped earning recently?
                  Lol no I used to make a little over 2 grand a month, but got hit with the unnatural links penalty like a lot of other members.That is the reason I want to get away from building links the same as everybody else. Having your own network is the best thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post


          BONUS round

          7) The common Imer always has you in mind to save you money. Instead of selling something for $100 they will sell it for $97. Instead of $80 they will sell it for $77 Instead of 50 they's let it go for $47. Its always about saving the buyer $3
          Damn I am charging too much, $69 is so old fashioned
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      Not gonna lie. I have a few of those ugly sites lol but I'm still learning. The reason why I don't cry about Google is because Im a realist and I KNOW I don't deserve to rank those sites anyways. I consider it theft on my part for making the money when I did.

      I'm starting to understand how to create better content and I'm excited about Google updates. I know most people will quit because of frustration or resources. That puts me in a prime spot to succeed because I'm willing to do what it takes no matter how long and I have resources that I've built up over the years.
      Exactly Google is actually teaching us how to do SEO in the correct way without getting caught and that way they actually force us. Some people just need an extra push and that's what they do. So once again, Thank You Google!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trabalhodigital
    lots of sites with good content got penalised

    As for me, I already quit.
    I am waiting for the disavow tool, which I think it may not be that helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author aadi144
    Hating Google......?? no way.

    Why should i hate Google.....just because of the updates it is delivering.It should be a matter of concern for those who are doing SEO in the way Google has prescribed not for the one Who is following the path Google has set up.
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  • Profile picture of the author boosters
    See... there is no fault by google.. you do proper job they give you what you deserve but you if do... stealth work than definitely they will throw you.
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