Web 2.0 network instead of private blog network, good strategy ?

by nest28
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I have a couple hundred articles from my old sites that I want to use on web 2.0 and than build them up to have pr 1 or 2. I took one look at Niko's thread about his sites being hack and saw the conversation and didn't understand one word lol. Everything was code this, and hacker that, way above my skill level. I like to keep things simple, plus learning all of that would take time I don't have.

Just want to know if this kind of method still works, build 10 web 2.0 properties to start with, each will have 15 pages of original content, backlink these web 2.0s with article links,social bookmark, and blog comments.

I know it's nothing new here, same tired method that everybody uses, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work. In the very near future I'll look more into the whole buying domains that already have pr, and maybe renting/buying high pr links.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I do both. The downside of the Web 2.0's is you have no control. They could disappear at anytime without warning. Keeping that in mind, I would put very few links in the articles. I usually only include links in one out of every 3 articles or so, other than links to authorities like Wikipedia, WebMD, or something like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I do both. The downside of the Web 2.0's is you have no control. They could disappear at anytime without warning. Keeping that in mind, I would put very few links in the articles. I usually only include links in one out of every 3 articles or so, other than links to authorities like Wikipedia, WebMD, or something like that.
      I was hoping that by having more than just a couple pages that these web 2.0s wont be deleted but as you said that's up to chance. I wanted to only have links on homepage, none in articles, is that a good idea.

      I figure I could use these 2.0s to help rank some of my new sites, would only have 5 links on each home page.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I was hoping that by having more than just a couple pages that these web 2.0s wont be deleted but as you said that's up to chance. I wanted to only have links on homepage, none in articles, is that a good idea.

        I figure I could use these 2.0s to help rank some of my new sites, would only have 5 links on each home page.

        With a lot of links clearly promoting your own site, they are likely to get deleted no matter how many pages they have.

        How are you planning on having the links on the homepage without them being in articles? Sidebar links?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          With a lot of links clearly promoting your own site, they are likely to get deleted no matter how many pages they have.

          How are you planning on having the links on the homepage without them being in articles? Sidebar links?
          Yes like blog roll or something, I'm not a seo expert so I don't know if it's a good idea or not. I learned more in last 4 months than I have in last 2 year and I still have so much more to learn.

          Maybe I'll just put one link inside article and have each web 2.0 have around 10 pages. I'm not concerned with making a lot of links so 1 per web 2.0 is fine.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Web 2.0s are great for supplement links however the other big downside of many web 2.0s is that you can't control the other outbound links (the service puts them there) so if you do build some up to PR2 you can end up with less juice than on a private PR1 because of all the links going to other places that you don't control
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Web 2.0s are great for supplement links however the other big downside of many web 2.0s is that you can't control the other outbound links (the service puts them there) so if you do build some up to PR2 you can end up with less juice than on a private PR1 because of all the links going to other places that you don't control
              I would rather have my own private network, but I have absolutely no knowledge of c panels, c class ip, hosting etc. I read a thread where you and bnetwork were going back and forth about where to buy domains and how to set them up correctly, it seem like a complicated matter.

              Web 2.0 are of course much more simpler to understand, you guys seem to have a extensive knowledge outside of just IM, I notice you, and Yukon both seem to know about computers and internet on a much higher level than the common marketer.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Web 2.0s are great for supplement links however the other big downside of many web 2.0s is that you can't control the other outbound links (the service puts them there) so if you do build some up to PR2 you can end up with less juice than on a private PR1 because of all the links going to other places that you don't control
              Yea you have to be careful where you decide to build them.

              About the sites disappearing: my first set of quality web 2.0's is from 2009... 16/21 still indexed, the other 5 are gone because the sites no longer exist. It's not that bad tbh.
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          • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Yes like blog roll or something, I'm not a seo expert so I don't know if it's a good idea or not. I learned more in last 4 months than I have in last 2 year and I still have so much more to learn.

            Maybe I'll just put one link inside article and have each web 2.0 have around 10 pages. I'm not concerned with making a lot of links so 1 per web 2.0 is fine.
            This is what I'm doing. I have 14 right now. All of them are pr0 (I moved up fron NA) except one that's pr3

            I wouldn't plaster your links all over. Google recognizes that. Just do an article here and there with ONE link to your site or one of the pages. I am adding articles regularly and treating them as legitimate websites--meaning there are other links NOT to my sites. I'm treating these sites as though they have no relationship to my money site.

            Also, I've settled on a niche (and hopefully one money site), so all my feeder sites are in the same niche. I think one in content link from one of these sites will be worth 1,000 forum profiles or other such nonsense--and a whole lot safer.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamTCW
    For example, you have created 15 web 2.0 sites, you have posted links on each of them, for next link building you are using the same page then it is issue of footprint and Google would easily know that it is not natural link.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Don't be scared to start private network. I wasted money in the beginning buying worthless domains but I eventually learned along the way. I now have a reliable domain seller that I'm willing to share with you since I know you won't abuse the resource.

    As for hosting, I just Google cheap hosting and search for $2/month deals with cpanels per domain. I also have 5 cclass shared 5 ips per cclass to separate my different niches. I populate them with unique content by curating related news and linking out to source.

    I still use other methods but turn to my private network to make that last push. The faster you get started the better. Since I believe you will be building up slowly, start now. Even if its just 1 pr 3 just to go through the motions. Pm me if you want list.

    For web2.0, I usually have 10 built at time with 1 spun article and I send blog network links to them along with some cheap comment spam.

    I don't worry about attrition. I pick out the ones that stick past a month and try to build pr to those. Not sure if this is the right mindset but how I do it.

    Not a unique strategy but something I've been doing. My motto is to depend on Links as little as possible. That means trying to have a site people wouldn't mind linking to as a resource or accept guest post from, making sure I attack the right keywords and focusing on the best Links.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      Don't be scared to start private network. I wasted money in the beginning buying worthless domains but I eventually learned along the way. I now have a reliable domain seller that I'm willing to share with you since I know you won't abuse the resource.

      As for hosting, I just Google cheap hosting and search for $2/month deals with cpanels per domain. I also have 5 cclass shared 5 ips per cclass to separate my different niches. I populate them with unique content by curating related news and linking out to source.

      I still use other methods but turn to my private network to make that last push. The faster you get started the better. Since I believe you will be building up slowly, start now. Even if its just 1 pr 3 just to go through the motions. Pm me if you want list.

      For web2.0, I usually have 10 built at time with 1 spun article and I send blog network links to them along with some cheap comment spam.

      I don't worry about attrition. I pick out the ones that stick past a month and try to build pr to those. Not sure if this is the right mindset but how I do it.

      Not a unique strategy but something I've been doing. My motto is to depend on Links as little as possible. That means trying to have a site people wouldn't mind linking to as a resource or accept guest post from, making sure I attack the right keywords and focusing on the best Links.
      Thanx for the advice I'll pm you now.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Edit: when I said depend on links as little as possible I meant manufactured links. It's always great to have people link to you and in the beginning I was skeptical but people actually do link to my sites. Mike Anthony labeled one of my sites as mfa and it was hard to disagree. The articles on that site I showed him was the last time I used that writing company so mike didn't say anything I didn't recognize myself. Point is, you don't need the best site but if it looks like you care and at least trying, people have no problem giving a link.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chett
    Building out web 2.0 sites over time is certainly worth while. It's best to post content at first which does not have links and keep posting content for a while before you add your links.

    The content on the web 2.0 should not be promotional If you want them to stick. I know a number of people who post news and celebrity related content to their web 2.0 sites and they have had many web 2.0's build up pr over time. If you use content which is fun and entertaining and include your links in a subtle manner they are much more likely to stick.

    At the end of the day you have no control over these links and links you control or links other people give you voluntary will always stick better.

    One thing to consider is that the concept of creating web 2.0 sites and then backlinking them (basically tiered links) is becoming heavily used. There is always a danger that if google see's many people using this technique it will become obvious to them. You should never be relient too much on one link type which is controlled by a third party.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Chett View Post

      Building out web 2.0 sites over time is certainly worth while. It's best to post content at first which does not have links and keep posting content for a while before you add your links.

      The content on the web 2.0 should not be promotional If you want them to stick. I know a number of people who post news and celebrity related content to their web 2.0 sites and they have had many web 2.0's build up pr over time. If you use content which is fun and entertaining and include your links in a subtle manner they are much more likely to stick.

      At the end of the day you have no control over these links and links you control or links other people give you voluntary will always stick better.

      One thing to consider is that the concept of creating web 2.0 sites and then backlinking them (basically tiered links) is becoming heavily used. There is always a danger that if google see's many people using this technique it will become obvious to them. You should never be relient too much on one link type which is controlled by a third party.
      This is my thinking exactly, who knows maybe Google will go after sites with web 2.0, social bookmarks and article links. Either way I want to distance myself as much as possible from the most commonly used methods. This is the reason so many IMers took a hit during the last update, because we all used the exact same type of links.

      Honestly I think in the near future almost every method we use will be targeted by Google, including buffer sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Web 2.0 networks are awesome especially when you start building them out. For each money site I build a network of around 50-100 web 2.0's and then I have a network of around 5000 that back it up with links. Of course I don't use all of them in my tiering process but I have them at my disposable. Its insanely powerful. Throw in a few high PR links and you're pretty much unstoppable.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    Good strategy. Just be sure to make them legit that gives real value to the readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamTCW
    and the beauty is web 2.0 sites are authority sites, very old domain, lots of activities on these sites so if you use them then you are really getting good benefit from SEO, at least it is better than 6 months or 1 year old blogs.
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