Ultimate Demon vs. SenukeX vs. Others ?

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After the panda and penguin update, What tools for making backlink can work? Today, I want to select between Ultimate Demon vs. SEnuke X. vs. Others.
Please help me for select the best tools for SEO.:confused: Thank you.
#demon #senukex #ultimate
  • Profile picture of the author mmickeals
    Originally Posted by captainx View Post

    After the panda and penguin update, What tools for making backlink can work? Today, I want to select between Ultimate Demon vs. SEnuke X. vs. Others.
    Please help me for select the best tools for SEO.:confused: Thank you.
    My vote is for others. I hate paying high monthly fees for tools. Especially when there are tools out there that can be purchased for a one time fee that do pretty much the same thing. I would say either go with Ultimate Demon or Magic submitter if you are looking for tools in this vein.

    If you want maximum effectiveness/dollar spent try looking into GSASER. This is an especially great tool to blast links at your tiers.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
      Originally Posted by mmickeals View Post

      My vote is for others. I hate paying high monthly fees for tools. Especially when there are tools out there that can be purchased for a one time fee that do pretty much the same thing. I would say either go with Ultimate Demon or Magic submitter if you are looking for tools in this vein.

      If you want maximum effectiveness/dollar spent try looking into GSASER. This is an especially great tool to blast links at your tiers.
      I'd agree with you on budget plan suggestion

      GSA is great tool to diversify backlinks on your teir2/3 links.

      Read this thread all posts to get more info about diversification.
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  • Profile picture of the author boosters
    I only using senuke for creating accounts in web 2.0, SN, SB and Article Directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    All tools are good, if you use it properly. UD is a great investment to build more web 2.0 properties than Senukex. But senukex is the best tool to manage most of SEO campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
    Magic submitter can be an option , But I prefer to create web 2 links by hand for tier 1 because , they stick and pass link juice. Its just link a mini site for me providing backlinks and a little traffic too. I then create tier 2 using automation tools like sick submitter or magic submitter or UD or senuke (depending on your budget) .

    Problem with senuke is , most of the web 2's listed their is spammed to death. Be a bit creative so that your posts stick and that is more important.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by dotgirish View Post

      Problem with senuke is , most of the web 2's listed their is spammed to death. Be a bit creative so that your posts stick and that is more important.
      Thats going to be a problem with any submission tool that doesn't allow you to add your own sites. The sites included will get hammered like crazy and will take measures to stop the spamming which is part of the reason you hear of failure rates.

      I'm becoming addicted to real automation tools like Zennoposter. I have suggested Magic submitter and still use them but I'm bucking up against limits with them as well.

      The developer kicking it is GSA, Never seen anything like it. I can't start that thing up without there being an update available. If they keep it up, overhaul the interface with drag and drop and a recorder they will kick them all around the block
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  • Profile picture of the author revolution109
    se nuke x is the best but costly.
    UD is good but not as effective as senuke
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    • Profile picture of the author DonHuevos
      For the money UD is not that far behind. Plus it's MUCH easier to use. Personally, I think UD is the best bang for the buck.

      Originally Posted by revolution109 View Post

      se nuke x is the best but costly.
      UD is good but not as effective as senuke
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      • Profile picture of the author djleon1
        All the tools achieve somewhat similar results in my experience. I like Senuke and think it is the best of the three but not so much better that I am willing to pay the monthly fee. Ultimate Demon works very well - especially for building web 2.0's and can be had for a far cheaper one time fee.
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        • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
          Originally Posted by captainx View Post

          Your blog very nice!

          and thank you for all advice for me.
          Thanks very much

          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          UD looks good but in my book Magic submitter still has the edge because you can record any kind of site. SenukeXcr will have that capability too and should be good. However their stuff is just too high priced without offering a whole lot more than MS
          Mike - I tried Magic Submitter for that very reason but I had serious problems trying to import my own target list of sites - is that something else you had issues with/how did you resolve it?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

            Mike - I tried Magic Submitter for that very reason but I had serious problems trying to import my own target list of sites - is that something else you had issues with/how did you resolve it?
            To be honest Matt I am two steps from moving on from MS. This will probably be my final month. MS has a strong bias to signing up for sites and dropping links rather than automating anything in the browser so though I was able to get some sites over I can concur with your issues. I am hearing good things about UD which I know you use. Since I don't do a whole lot of mass submissions I am finding less and less use for MS.

            Why the change in heart?

            There was a thread here recently that pretty much put me off from continuing to recommend MS. In the past MS has evolved within a few months of SenukeX but this time the developer has indicated he's not going to integrate any other spinner into his product as almost EVERY automation software is doing and he seems reluctant to add real automation features like variables etc. when they are recommended. SEO is becoming more sophisticated and we need better tools to do what we want not what the developer tells us is good seo.

            We need tools that allow for intelligence and strategy rather than rotating sites, spinning content and dropping links everywhere it goes without any controls or "if then" kind of logic.

            Anyway In short MAgic submitter with those decisions is becoming outdated (unless they wow me with a major upgrade). I still would recommend it over SenukeX because that piece of software is just over rated and over priced for what it does but its getting to the point where macro tools are better for what I do than Internet marketing tools like MS and their one size fits all SEO approach.

            Right now the two automation tools I use the most are Winautomation and zennoposter. I probably won't be using anything but winautomation come middle of 2013 when they come out with their second browser automation version (they are just light years ahead of ZPs training and professional customer service. Pleasure at every turn to deal with) . That and SEO Spyglass and Scrapebox are all I really touch nowadays in my toolbox. Mind you winautomation is not geared towards Internet marketers. I doubt it will have things like mutithreading but seriously unless you are doing alot of blasting thats not an issue.

            It does however just flat out easily allows you to record your sites, select from from any file you want (without having to copy an paste into window forms) and can even be taught to automate Scrapebox . SEO spyglass and whatever else you want in concert because it automates any and everything on your desktop/Vps or VMware

            I'll probably kiss all software subscription good bye because as a model it seems to make the developers self satisfied. Almost all the software pushing the envelope nowadays has a one time fee component.
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            • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post


              Right now the two automation tools I use are Winautomation and zennoposter. I probably won't be using anything but winautomation come middle of 2013 when they come out with their second browser automation version. That and SEO Spyglass and Scrapebox are all I really touch nowadays in my toolbox. Mind you winautomation is not geared towards Internet marketers. I doubt it will have things like mutithreading but seriously unless you are doing alot of blasting thats not an issue.

              It does however just flat out easily allows you to record your sites, select from from any file you want (without having to copy an paste into window forms) and can even be taught to automate Scrapebox . SEO spyglass and whatever else you want in concert because it automates any and everything on your desktop

              Just when I think that I know everything, you have to come up with something that I know NOTHING about. Damnit. Yes folks, this is a business that must be learned for a very long time....lol.
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

                Just when I think that I know everything, you have to come up with something that I know NOTHING about. Damnit. Yes folks, this is a business that must be learned for a very long time....lol.
                GG relax man..... Truth is automation of any kind is less needed now than ever. It just really helps when you have lot of work to do.
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                • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                  GG relax man..... Truth is automation of any kind is less needed now than ever. It just really helps when you have lot of work to do.
                  Totally agree - the main problem I think a lot of people face when stepping into automation from manual is they lose the agility/dynamicness they have when doing things manually and dont neccessarily take everything into consideration when moving into automation.

                  Or it just breeds lazyness so instead of using it to free up time to do more, they use it to free up time to do less.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    Have a look at my tutorials to see how I use Ultimate Demon

    The Ultimate Guide To Tiered Link Building Part 1 - Matthew Woodward

    In regards to SENukeX I personally stopped using it because of the cost. The monthly fee was $127 while the one off upfront cost of Ultimate Demon was $349.

    Even using SENukeX for just 6 months would cost more than twice the cost of Ultimate Demon and I started to phase it out.

    Don't get me wrong they are both great tools but Ultimate Demon stole it for me personally.
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    • Profile picture of the author captainx
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      Have a look at my tutorials to see how I use Ultimate Demon

      The Ultimate Guide To Tiered Link Building Part 1 - Matthew Woodward

      In regards to SENukeX I personally stopped using it because of the cost. The monthly fee was $127 while the one off upfront cost of Ultimate Demon was $349.

      Even using SENukeX for just 6 months would cost more than twice the cost of Ultimate Demon and I started to phase it out.

      Don't get me wrong they are both great tools but Ultimate Demon stole it for me personally.
      Your blog very nice!

      and thank you for all advice for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
    I have my own biases Preferring document sharing sites as they have been proven to be more effective for my sites and neither of those tools are effective at this technique. Ultimately it really comes down to selecting the software that automates repetitive tasks which your are implementing in your business now.
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    • Originally Posted by Clint Faber View Post

      I have my own biases Preferring document sharing sites as they have been proven to be more effective for my sites and neither of those tools are effective at this technique.
      Magic Submitter can be trained to submit to pdf sharing sites. Infact, I have trained it to share my pdfs to idocscript platforms successfully.
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      • Profile picture of the author vicbitter
        Originally Posted by magicsubmittertutorials View Post

        Magic Submitter can be trained to submit to pdf sharing sites. Infact, I have trained it to share my pdfs to idocscript platforms successfully.
        Your signature URL is broken, fix it!
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  • Profile picture of the author K Mec
    You can use this one also...

    Social bookmark Automation
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Ultimate demon and Magic submitter both are good softwares while i like Magic submitter more since it is having very cool features and timely updates released by the software manufacturer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      UD looks good but in my book Magic submitter still has the edge because you can record any kind of site. SenukeXcr will have that capability too and should be good. However their stuff is just too high priced without offering a whole lot more than MS
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    SEnuke X is overpriced and I have talked to 3 people I trust that used Ultimate Demon. All 3 said it is buggy as hell, has a low success rate, but has some potential. Maybe in a few months with more updates it will be a more solid product.

    So my vote is for other.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    Every tool has their own advantages and disadvantages. It just depend on how you use the tool and how you strategize your link building. I've been using SEnuke and it's been doing pretty well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
    The least powerful and easiest to learn is SENukeX (though a more powerful version, SENuke XCR, is coming out soon).
    The most powerful and hardest to learn is MagicSubmitter.
    The middle of the two is UltimateDemon.

    Pick one of the above and then add GSA SER.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrMatts
    I agree on Zennoposter it is a awesome piece of software. The problem with everything is time. You need to find a way/tool that allows you to work FAST and is very FAST to setup. Thats one major drawback when you have to update all your templates yourself in tools like ZP.... The biggest question/problems is managing time wisely and not waste it....
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by MrMatts View Post

      I agree on Zennoposter it is a awesome piece of software. The problem with everything is time. You need to find a way/tool that allows you to work FAST and is very FAST to setup. Thats one major drawback when you have to update all your templates yourself in tools like ZP.... The biggest question/problems is managing time wisely and not waste it....
      I'm sorry but thats total nonsense. Managing time wisely is making sure that what you do works effectively it has NOTHING, NADA, NYET to do with always being fast. Being fast all the time is where you will waste the most time

      Always using the same link opportunities that the masses are using is a sure way that you get the same results the masses are getting.

      Unfortunately what all these tools have in common is that their sellers claim that running their software will zoom you to the top of Google with a few button pushes and adding some lines of text. If that were so then everybody would be ranking and making money

      So how come most people are not?
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    magic submitter
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  • How do UD, Magic Submitter, SenukeX, Zennoposter compare with GSA SER. Are they doing different things or tools with more or less same functionality. What are their best setting post-Penguin?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
      Originally Posted by Toyota Hilux Dealer View Post

      How do UD, Magic Submitter, SenukeX, Zennoposter compare with GSA SER. Are they doing different things or tools with more or less same functionality. What are their best setting post-Penguin?
      GSA has the ability to post in web 2.0, Social bookmarking. But success rate is not good. But this is the best tool to keep diversity with an easy setup.
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  • Profile picture of the author abeng
    You can try Magic Submitter to handle your SEO..
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  • Profile picture of the author ffranks01
    I like senuke x, I have made $750 with my cpa networks using it the past 2 months
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  • Profile picture of the author agapril07
    Ive used them all. I guess I would give UD the nudge. Haven't been using any of them a whole lot lately though. I run away from SENuke though. General Rule: If everyone is doing x then you probably shouldnt
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by agapril07 View Post

      General Rule: If everyone is doing x then you probably shouldnt

      exactly. If 2012 taught us anything its that Google hunts down whatever the herd is using. All software that blasts the same sites is just a straight up Face Palm no as far as I am concerned.
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