Let's talk about ranking niche sites post-penguin.

by Iamcap
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I have been researching an effective and cheap way to rank a website in a low-competition niche.

What is your opinion on this set-up:

Write around 10 articles about the niche, all original and high quality. Use wordpress with the basic plugins (All in one seo, xml sitemap, etc).

For backlinking:

+ Facebook, Twitter and Google plus pages posting links to each article as it is published.

+ Creation of 15-20 web 2.0's that syndicate posts (NO spinning) that you do not wish to rank for and within those syndicated posts you add contextual links back to the post/homepage you do want to rank for using VARIED anchor text + another link to an authority site such as Wikipedia.

+ Use social bookmarking service that throws garbage bookmarks to the web 2.0s just to get them indexed. (using something like Imautomator or socialmoney to send 15-25 backlinks to each one, that usually gets them indexed)

+Also bookmark your money site on popular websites such as Digg, delicious, mister wong, etc + at least one youtube video pointing back to money site and some blog commenting/forum postings.

Overall, is that enough to rank within a niche where the existing competition is not very relevant and not optimizing for the keywords.

I have read that people like to use services such as UAW to throw hundreds of backlinks to their web 2.0s, but I am sure that at some point google will not be kind to web 2.0s with LOTS of rubbish backlinks. Is getting web 2.0s indexed enough?

What do you guys think?
#niche #postpenguin #ranking #sites #talk
  • Profile picture of the author JoeTavs
    I use long tail keywords and sindicate with your first two bullets. I also sydicate on doc sites such as scbrid and slide share. That is about it and it works great if you pick long tail keywords that get traffic and you can rank for.

    Hope this helps

    Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author Iamcap
    I haven't tried doc sites yet, might add that to the mix. Have you found that this strategy is enough to rank non-competitive keywords without the need for UAW, senuke x, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author ownergolan
    Sound ok.. Just try it out and reinforce if not enough. But the key is the content itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doubleup
    You really don't have to go to all that effort to rank low quality niche websites at all, even post penguin/panda. The basic's still apply, have seo'd content, a well structured site seo wise, and backlink the pages you want to rank for. There really is no need for facebook likes, youtube videos etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by daztrouk View Post

      You really don't have to go to all that effort to rank low quality niche websites at all, even post penguin/panda. The basic's still apply, have seo'd content, a well structured site seo wise, and backlink the pages you want to rank for. There really is no need for facebook likes, youtube videos etc.
      What type of backlinks would you recommend creating?
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  • Profile picture of the author fitnessmaster
    I've noticed on a lot of my small niche sites, backlinks aren't playing a large part anymore on how they are ranked. For example, I have some sites that I purchased domains for, added to my hosting account, set up Wordpress and posted around 10 high quality articles and just let them sit there. I pretty much forgot about them and thought I would work on them later. I never built a single backlink to them.

    Surprisingly, I started noticing commissions and clickthroughs coming from affiliate tags for those sites in Amazon. I checked and sure enough, some of these sites are sitting at number 1 for the keyword I was targeting and a few are on the first page or top of the second page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by fitnessmaster View Post

      I've noticed on a lot of my small niche sites, backlinks aren't playing a large part anymore on how they are ranked. .
      Every person who has made this claim that showed me their site had backlinks OR they were ranking for some term that gets next to no traffic. Sure you can get some clicks on e week because a few people putting in some search terms no one regularly uses but please do not use that happy circumstance to post in a forum and fool people that "backlinks are not play a part" because it is BLATANTLY false.
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      • Your strategy is good because you're focusing a lot on web 2.0 and social media. You could also use article submission and guest posting. This will help you get more traffic and backlinks, and obtain faster results in terms of SEO.
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        • Profile picture of the author Iamcap
          Originally Posted by mrsvirtualassistant View Post

          Your strategy is good because you're focusing a lot on web 2.0 and social media. You could also use article submission and guest posting. This will help you get more traffic and backlinks, and obtain faster results in terms of SEO.
          The main problem I have with article submission is that it's uncontrolled, most websites that I've seen that syndicate content are scrapers and are often ****. I would never be able to remove links from those websites if google ends up deindexing them and marking them as bad neighbourhooods.

          Guest posting is something I might add to my strategy. Thanks for the suggestions.
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      • Profile picture of the author fitnessmaster
        LOL, I'm just posting my experience, not trying to fool anyone. If the sites I'm talking about have backlinks, I didn't create them. It was a result of having valuable content. Also, notice I said SMALL niche sites...meaning they aren't heavily searched keywords but enough to earn some money from which contributes to my overall income.

        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Every person who has made this claim that showed me their site had backlinks OR they were ranking for some term that gets next to no traffic. Sure you can get some clicks on e week because a few people putting in some search terms no one regularly uses but please do not use that happy circumstance to post in a forum and fool people that "backlinks are not play a part" because it is BLATANTLY false.
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