Too good to be true niche?

asadulhaq

12 years ago

It's true

It's very good niche, with a great SEO You can make much money with It

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Nelapsi

12 years ago

To good to be true only applies to the real world in my experience. I have uncovered a few nuggets that generate 10+ dollars a day, just sitting there waiting for the ripped fruit to be picked.

I think the thing to remember is global searching habits change constantly, so someone who looked at that last year may have found something completely different and unappealing.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

You better make sure you are checking exact match and not broad match searches. That number sounds pottery high for a 5 word keyword.

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Beardo

12 years ago

Sound like fantasy land to me. 5 words ???

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brienn 12 years ago

you have to see also the competition, how many pages are competing with yours
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- 1byte 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by brienn
  
  you have to see also the competition, how many pages are competing with yours
  
  Not really. I don't care how many pages compete against me. Why would I care about the competing pages on page 2...or page 102 for that matter? The most important competition I need to worry about is what's on page 1 of the SERPs, because that is where I want to rank.
  
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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Whats the difference between exact and broad?

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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Whats the difference between exact and broad?

Broad match tells you how many times a phrase appears in a search query, with the words in any order and including any other words.

Let's say your keywords is 'pink elephants'.

pink elephants
pink elephants with three legs
how to find pink elephants at a reasonable price
my elephants turned pink
I painted the toenails of all of my elephants pink

These phrases would ALL contribute to the broad match results. So really broad match tells you almost nothing useful.

Exact match is how many queries are done with that exact phrase.

pink elephants

is the only phrase that contributes to that result.
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ilee

12 years ago

You need to look at the competition as well on first page to see if you can rank amongst them

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Ahh right I see what you mean. When bringing it down to a 'exact match' equals 1 search result daily = no income

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1byte 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Ahh right I see what you mean. When bringing it down to a 'exact match' equals 1 search result daily = no income

As mentioned by Mike Friedman, broad search tells you almost nothing useful. You need to be using exact search to more accurately gauge potential traffic.

1 exact search daily will equal miniscule if any traffic, hence little, if any income. 1 search per day for your keyword will total approx. 30 searches per month. Even if you can rank your site at #1 in Google for that keyword, and you got 50% click through, that would be about 15 visitors per month. I would say 15 per month (or 1 every 2 days) is essentially no visitors. Sorry to burst your bubble...
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Dragontech

12 years ago

The question comes to how you came up with "medium comp"...make sure to check the top 5 competitors with MS before deciding

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Marygood

12 years ago

You have to check out your competitors too

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Very useful information thank you.
This may sound dumb but what is SERP's?

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1byte 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Very useful information thank you.
This may sound dumb but what is SERP's?

No, it's not a dumb question when you're starting out.

SERPs means Search Engine Results Pages. That means, all of the pages that come up when you query a keyword in Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. those are the Search Engine Results Pages, or SERPs.
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DNAWRealm

Banned 12 years ago

I advise getting SENuke. It's niche finder is pretty good for finding good niches that you can investigate further. It gives you a few results based on your niche search. If you get a few 'VERY EASY' searches, you can go and investigate further. When it reports "dont waste your time" or "HARD", you simply don't bother.

You can get a SENuke trial which will help you find your first niche for free!

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Ok, so what would you class as high competition?

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DNAWRealm

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Ok, so what would you class as high competition?

Go out and look for yourself. Search with intitle:keyword, check the #1, #2 and #3 backlinks profile. Check their pagerank. Check all their other content (is it related content?).

Finding high-paying niches requires time and effort, and lots of it.

If you're serious about it all, here's what I'd do:

Collect 50 or so keywords that you could rank for over a couple of days. Find "EASY" and "DOABLE" searches from SENuke.

Analyse all of your competitors as explained above.

Decide which niches will be easiest to target, and MOST PROFITABLE. Remember, Amazon affiliates works great too.

Once you've picked some out, go for it.

Never rush into it. Take your time and be 100% sure when you're buying a domain. It may only cost £5.99 to buy a domain, but it takes HOURS of effort building them up and ranking them.

If you've spent 30hours ranking a site that will never rank, that's 30hours x minimum wage of £6. 30x6 = £150 lost.

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Originally Posted by DNAWRealm

Go out and look for yourself. Search with intitle:keyword, check the #1, #2 and #3 backlinks profile. Check their pagerank. Check all their other content (is it related content?).

Finding high-paying niches requires time and effort, and lots of it.

If you're serious about it all, here's what I'd do:

Collect 50 or so keywords that you could rank for over a couple of days. Find "EASY" and "DOABLE" searches from SENuke.

Analyse all of your competitors as explained above.

Decide which niches will be easiest to target, and MOST PROFITABLE. Remember, Amazon affiliates works great too.

Once you've picked some out, go for it.

Never rush into it. Take your time and be 100% sure when you're buying a domain. It may only cost £5.99 to buy a domain, but it takes HOURS of effort building them up and ranking them.

If you've spent 30hours ranking a site that will never rank, that's 30hours x minimum wage of £6. 30x6 = £150 lost.

Brilliant thank you. With SENuke how long is the free trial?

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DNAWRealm

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Brilliant thank you. With SENuke how long is the free trial?

14days I believe.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by brienn

you have to see also the competition, how many pages are competing with yours

Originally Posted by DNAWRealm

I advise getting SENuke. It's niche finder is pretty good for finding good niches that you can investigate further. It gives you a few results based on your niche search. If you get a few 'VERY EASY' searches, you can go and investigate further. When it reports "dont waste your time" or "HARD", you simply don't bother.

You can get a SENuke trial which will help you find your first niche for free!

I'm sorry, but both of these suggestions are horrible, wretched advice.

First of all, the number of pages that shows up in the SERPs has NOTHING to do with how competitive a keyword is.

Second, there is no tool that really analyzes competition well at all. SENuke uses the number of competing pages in the SERPs as part of its calculation for how difficult a keyword or niche is. So does Traffic Travis. The only one that comes fairly close is SEOmoz's keyword research tool, but even that I wouldn't strongly base anything off of.

You need to do some manual work to analyze how competitive a keyword is. You need to study the top 3 ranking sites. That's it. Those are your competition. Number 4 on, barely get any traffic.

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DNAWRealm

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I'm sorry, but both of these suggestions are horrible, wretched advice.

First of all, the number of pages that shows up in the SERPs has NOTHING to do with how competitive a keyword is.

Second, there is no tool that really analyzes competition well at all. SENuke uses the number of competing pages in the SERPs as part of its calculation for how difficult a keyword or niche is. So does Traffic Travis. The only one that comes fairly close is SEOmoz's keyword research tool, but even that I wouldn't strongly base anything off of.

You need to do some manual work to analyze how competitive a keyword is. You need to study the top 3 ranking sites. That's it. Those are your competition. Number 4 on, barely get any traffic.

Read my second post.

I use SENuke as a starting point - never a finishing point.

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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by DNAWRealm

Read my second post.

I use SENuke as a starting point - never a finishing point.

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Yeah, but by using it as a starting point, you might be missing out on some good opportunities that you never look deeper at.
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Lori Kelly

12 years ago

I use SEO quake to find the page rank (PR) of the sites that are on page 1. If the PR is 1 or less, I consider going for that particular niche.

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Are .co domains any good?

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mosthost 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Are .co domains any good?

Those are a pretty bad choice. Try and stick with .com, .net, and .org.
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DNAWRealm Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Are .co domains any good?

They work equally as well as .com's because they are global domains. The harsh reality is though, people won't remember .co and will often type .com instead (that's if you have returning visitors).

I'd stick with .com... Simply because .co is too similar.
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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Thanks, you guys are amazing. This is a scary step to make. And ive spent days on end trying to find a great niche and shall continue until I find one

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Ive just come across an EMD and its available its a .co and a great niche. Worth $3500 on epik. To buy or not to buy?

Its a 2 word keyword. exact match gets 1332 daily searches. £8.55 per click

Competition:

1. PR3 - Alexa says 443 sites linking in - content is e-commerce only
(then there are shopping results from google)
2. PR5 -Very well known store for this type of product 2196 sites linking in - e-commerce
3. PR2 -another well known overall department store 5800 sites linking in - e-commerce

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Geekgirl01

12 years ago

Or second keyword would be a key-key-key .com domain
487 daily searches (exact match) £3.68 per click

Competition
1. PR0 - 62 BACKLINKS - E-commerce and Ok content
2. PR3 - Well known e-com site for this product 495 link ins
3. PR3 - Chanel 4 website (which has one page relating to this type of product)

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DNAWRealm

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Geekgirl01

Or second keyword would be a key-key-key .com domain
487 daily searches (exact match) £3.68 per click

Competition
1. PR0 - 62 BACKLINKS - E-commerce and Ok content
2. PR3 - Well known e-com site for this product 495 link ins
3. PR3 - Chanel 4 website (which has one page relating to this type of product)

Hmm, seems like it could be doable. Are they just e-commerce sites with a small description and "BUY NOW" buttons?

If so, you could probably outrank them if you do correct on-page SEO. Would require effort though.

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