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Experienced SEO Guru's Only Please

by estz
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Hello,

I was wondering what people's thoughts are on buying an aged domain that has a few thousands links pointing to it and then simply 301 redirecting them all to your main website. I would be looking at buying sites that are within my niche however does anyone have experience in this? Has this negatively affected them or did it just positively promote the business in Google.

Am very interested to hear peoples response.

Thanks
#experienced #guru #seo
  • Profile picture of the author EnergizeMedia
    You would be better doing this
    • Buy the domain
    • Create 5, 1000 word articles - Have 1 backlink in each article pointing to an authority site in your niche, Not your money site
    • Create one banner, pointing back to your money site in the sidebar/header

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by EnergizeMedia View Post

      You would be better doing this
      • Buy the domain
      • Create 5, 1000 word articles - Have 1 backlink in each article pointing to an authority site in your niche, Not your money site
      • Create one banner, pointing back to your money site in the sidebar/header

      Good luck!
      Yeah, because one link from one domain is far better than thousands of links from thousands of domains. :rolleyes:

      :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author limestone614
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Yeah, because one link from one domain is far better than thousands of links from thousands of domains. :rolleyes:

        :confused:
        Bit harsh?

        I've tried both Mike, the fresh content in between the surrogate link and the money site works better every time.

        Expensive though, and time consuming to get right, lots of research on the backlink profile to pick up all those broken links.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    The downside with buying domains like this is hosting them on different server which is a necessity if you really want them to be effective and safe.

    Also be particularly careful about fake pr sites when buying this aged domain.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      The downside with buying domains like this is hosting them on different server which is a necessity if you really want them to be effective and safe.
      If you are just 301'ing the domain to another domain, there is no need for a separate hosting account in my opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        If you are just 301'ing the domain to another domain, there is no need for a separate hosting account in my opinion.
        Yeah, i understand but looks like what the OPs needs is a consistent back links to his site.

        Use a 301 redirect. This tells Google that your pages have been
        permanently moved, and is the best way to ensure that Google can crawl
        and index your site correctly. You can not keep redirecting domains to one site for BL purpose.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

          Yeah, i understand but looks like what the OPs needs is a consistent back links to his site.
          Without reviewing his site, there is no way to have any idea what he needs.

          Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

          Use a 301 redirect. This tells Google that your pages have been permanently moved, and is the best way to ensure that Google can crawl and index your site correctly. You can not keep redirecting domains to one site for BL purpose.
          301 has nothing to do with crawling and indexing.

          No, you cannot just keep redirecting domain after domain. Google will catch on to what you are trying to do. However, the OP was talking about buying one domain and redirecting it, which would work fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author estz
    Well my thinking behind it was to pick up a decent site with a good amount of backlinks and then have it hosted elsewhere which is only going to cost a few quid each month and there you go. Didn't know if anyone had experience in doing it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    The fun part will be if the previous domain is tied to an adsense account that was banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author estz
    Yeah its a case of trying to gain more backlinks. I will only be looking to buy a domain that I know I can trust and doesn't have any adsense/clickbank shit on it etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
      Originally Posted by estz View Post

      Yeah its a case of trying to gain more backlinks. I will only be looking to buy a domain that I know I can trust and doesn't have any adsense/clickbank shit on it etc.
      The OP just clarified what i was saying, it's about BL Mike.

      Ok estz, it's not ideal to keep redirecting domains to your site because it could raise red flag.
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  • Profile picture of the author estz
    Its only about backlinks from 1 website though, I would not buy multiple websites and do tons of 301 redirects it would be a case of buying 1 premium domain that is aged has good DA and is respected in googles eye's.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    He didn't say it was the only thing he was doing.

    Bottom line, buying one solid domain in the same niche and doing a 301 redirect to it will help with rankings. In doing that, there is absolutely no need for a separate hosting account. In fact it would be a stupid waste of money to use a separate hosting account.

    The 301 should not be the only SEO effort put into the site though. I would continue building backlinks as well, but 301'ing a domain with authority in the niche will give you a nice head start.

    On the other hand, if your site is not really that established yet, you have nothing to lose and could just build the site on the aged domain instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    You need to be careful with this and I'm speaking from direct experience. This can end up with you getting your 'money site' deindexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    For back link purpose, you will need to buy a few good domains not just one, host them on different servers maybe 3 to 5 on a server and link your site in the post.

    And of course, inter link with other forms of back link campaign to boost your ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      For back link purpose, you will need to buy a few good domains not just one, host them on different servers maybe 3 to 5 on a server and link your site in the post.

      If you are going to build a network of sites like this, putting 3-5 on the same server is a horrible idea. One domain per C-class IP address.
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  • Profile picture of the author estz
    I own a PR5 website which has been established for over 9 years now, always built backlinks manually and have never done any crap to the domain so dont need to worry about it not being aged etc or having good authority in googles eye's. I was just very interested in giving it a push up the SERP's for a couple of search terms. We pretty much dominate the market however you can always get more traffic .
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    I've been watching one guy do exactly this for over a year now. He's been buying up domains and redirecting them to one site. The domains aren't even related, but they're powerful. He has about 13,000 root domains linking in now.

    Never the less, he ranks. Probably is making at least 15,000 per month off these keywords and Google hasn't caught on yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      He has about 13,000 root domains linking in now.

      Never the less, he ranks. Probably is making at least 15,000 per month off these keywords and Google hasn't caught on yet.
      Generally a stupid way of doing things. If you have sites with juice you are better building them in most cases. People get so hung up on hosting charges they become like the guy that drives 40 miles to save a nickel per gallon on gas. A redirect here and there is fine but if you build out those domains in a small or medium size network you can leverage it to pay all your hosting charge and extra profit.

      Lose some link juice? sure but you can make up for it to in targeted links within more relevant content. !3,000 redirects is just a disaster waiting to happen. Fine when you are a kiddie but if you are paying a mortgage, living your life on it its silly to risk it like that.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Generally a stupid way of doing things. If you have sites with juice you are better building them in most cases. People get so hung up on hosting charges they become like the guy that drives 40 miles to save a nickel per gallon on gas. A redirect here and there is fine but if you build out those domains in a small or medium size network you can leverage it to pay all your hosting charge and extra profit.

        Lose some link juice? sure but you can make up for it to in targeted links within more relevant content. !3,000 redirects is just a disaster waiting to happen. Fine when you are a kiddie but if you are paying a mortgage, living your life on it its silly to risk it like that.

        Then again, why risk $15,000 per month income letting other sites be associated with the links (selling links on the private network) when you don't have to. It only takes one bad apple to bring down a network.

        You have to draw the line someplace.

        If your mortgage is more than $15,000 per month, might be time to refinance?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Then again, why risk $15,000 per month income letting other sites be associated with the links (selling links on the private network) when you don't have to.
          You think selling links is the only way to leverage a network?


          It only takes one bad apple to bring down a network.
          Only a poorly built one

          You have to draw the line someplace.

          If your mortgage is more than $15,000 per month, might be time to refinance?

          Doesn't matter if your mortgage is a $1,000 a month, redirecting 13,000 domains to your site can end up with you in foreclosure.
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          • Profile picture of the author retsek
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Doesn't matter if your mortgage is a $1,000 a month, redirecting 13,000 domains to your site can end up with you in foreclosure.
            Actually, it's no more than 2 dozen domains. Collectively, those 24 or so domains are getting him 13k incoming root linking domains to that one site.
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  • Profile picture of the author intergen
    Yes permanent 301'ing does pass link juice. As you are aptly being warned - buying the domains is going to be the tricky part as all of these domains can come with their own issues. And if you pass "junk" to your main site - it will get the negative effects of this technique as well as the positive effects.
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