Even out anchor text with more backlinks?

edpudol1973

12 years ago

If you were manually penalized (which matt called to penguin update), the penalty will expire in a period of time. While the keyword you're ranking before is get penalized you may want to target other keyword and diversify your anchor text and back link source.

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Liam Hamer

12 years ago

Assuming it's quite easy for you to identify the services you bought to get your links placed and you know how to contact them, it shouldn't take long to create a quick E-Mail kindly asking them to remove them and just copy and paste this E-Mail to each of them. I'm doing this myself with some Fiverr gigs I ordered over the last year-18months and the majority are removing them for me.

My advice is to do that AND build more quality links with anchor text variation.

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Liam Hamer

Assuming it's quite easy for you to identify the services you bought to get your links placed and you know how to contact them, it shouldn't take long to create a quick E-Mail kindly asking them to remove them and just copy and paste this E-Mail to each of them. I'm doing this myself with some Fiverr gigs I ordered over the last year-18months and the majority are removing them for me.

My advice is to do that AND build more quality links with anchor text variation.

Most people here sell links that are placed at platforms that they don't own, good luck asking them to change 100's of bookmarks, forum profile links, blog comments (plain impossible), article directories and what not. Some links are possible to change but a ton of work, people ain't gonna do that for a few dozen dollars.

Personally my packages contain mostly links at my private sites so I can change the anchor txt no problem with that. But for other links like local listings, or press release sites its not possible or if possible I would provide them the username and password to do it their selves.

Besides that, changing anchor txt creates a huge flag, you're better of removing the link completely then changing it.

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thedog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Besides that, changing anchor txt creates a huge flag, you're better of removing the link completely then changing it.

Ah, the joys of SEO... so, actually changing them can cause a flag

I've been going through a few, and sent out a few emails... but, it's a ton of work ahead alright.

I'm still ranking on google's top 100 for low hanging long tail keywords... some with ok searches.

Would I be better off writing these keywords off for now, and concentrating on keywords I can still rank for?

Also, would adding my prime, polluted keywords, to high pr sites help... or, further add to my keyword density problem?

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Ah, the joys of SEO... so, actually changing them can cause a flag

I've been going through a few, and sent out a few emails... but, it's a ton of work ahead alright.

I'm still ranking on google's top 100 for low hanging long tail keywords... some with ok searches.

Would I be better off writing these keywords off for now, and concentrating on keywords I can still rank for?

Also, would adding my prime, polluted keywords, to high pr sites help... or, further add to my keyword density problem?

I've only seen a temporary solution when using your penalized keywords at high PR sites, a good increase in rankings and a week later they drop again, or sometimes they drop right away without climbing first so that's a no go.

You can better focus on other keywords now, that way you lower the same anchor % for your other ones so perhaps they come back at a later phase. If you want to use strong links it might be helpful to not use anchor txt at all but just the bare URL.

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Carl Brown

12 years ago

Originally Posted by edpudol1973

If you were manually penalized (which matt called to penguin update), the penalty will expire in a period of time. While the keyword you're ranking before is get penalized you may want to target other keyword and diversify your anchor text and back link source.

You're right about that. My penalties affected the keyword I overoptimized. I still get very minor traffic from other lesser keywords. I thought about adding backlinks to balance out the anchor text but pretty much abandoned those domains for other projects.

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TheContentAuthority

12 years ago

Good question thedog,

Anchor variation is very important, which I am leaning toward 70/30, ie 80% of my anchors are for non-keyword terms. Also, use synonyms for your target keywords. Google is using software to recognize text that is synonymous with a user’s query to offer even more relevant documents.

Check out this post on how to vary anchor text,

5 Tips on How to Vary your Anchor Text | HigherVisibility

Here is another good article on the subject,

Anchor Text Variation – How To Vary Your Anchor Text – RH.com

Good luck with your SEO efforts,

Shawn

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marketwarrior06

Banned 12 years ago

buying new links will not solve the problem dude. you have to remove the alert. and for that you have to remove the links. So I suggest buy new domain. put spun articles and use the WF link building services.
As the site is seasonal so it will not be a great problem.

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mosthost

12 years ago

"Link building" is not the solution for problems that resulted from "link building" IMHO.

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scottmacair

12 years ago

If you received an unnatural links penalty then diluting anchor text will not work. Unnatural link penalties are the result of a manual review by google.

If you have been effected by penguin, which is an algorithm, then you can dilute the issue until you are back on good ratio's but remember penguin targets low quality links and over optimization so if you try to dilute your links with more links from WF then you will almost certainly be making matters worse.

Most warrior forum link services are junk and will harm your site very quickly. Maybe not one blast or even two but as soon as you have a link profile that has a high ratio of low quality links you'll be hit.

If you see any of these words in a link building service hit the back button: Xrumer, Spun, Profiles, Scrapebox, Scraped, Pinged, Blast.

Even if you go the safer route and build Web 2's with no spun content, these properties pass very little juice as they are new. The links needed to rank are from sites with links and age.

To rank for competitive terms reliably requires links from diverse contextual properties that have built up trust and authority over a long time - there is no good shortcut.

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thedog

12 years ago

Solid advice scottmacair.

Is there any way to tell if my penalty was manual or not?

As for other comments on starting again... well, I'm getting over 100 hits a day from other search engines, and I expect this to increase over the coming months... so, I am getting traffic... just not from Google.

I can find the old link reports and send out an email... in fact, I found this template online if anyone else is interested.

Dear owner of xsite.com,

I'm the webmaster of Pet-Super-Store.com,

There is currently a link from your site at http://www.xsite.com to our site at Dog Training Equipment, Pet Supplies & Pet Accessories by Pet-Super-Store.com that uses "anchor text" for the link text (example: "premium dog beds"). We have recently been penalized by Google because we have too many "anchor text" links that do not mention our site name or brand (example: Dog Training Equipment, Pet Supplies & Pet Accessories by Pet-Super-Store.com or Pet-Super-Store.com).

If there is any way you could change the anchor text to our domain name or branded text such as Dog Training Equipment, Pet Supplies & Pet Accessories by Pet-Super-Store.com or Pet-Super-Store.com it would be a HUGE help to our site and our business.

You can also use the code below which will also show a branded text link on your site.

<a href="http://www.pet-super-store.com">www.pet-super-store.com</a>

Thank you for your time... We really appreciate the link from your site and helping to support our business.

Best regards,

X Person
xxx-xxx-xxxx (please call my cell number if you have questions)
jimmy@oursite.com

Originally Posted by scottmacair

If you received an unnatural links penalty then diluting anchor text will not work. Unnatural link penalties are the result of a manual review by google.

If you have been effected by penguin, which is an algorithm, then you can dilute the issue until you are back on good ratio's but remember penguin targets low quality links and over optimization so if you try to dilute your links with more links from WF then you will almost certainly be making matters worse.

Most warrior forum link services are junk and will harm your site very quickly. Maybe not one blast or even two but as soon as you have a link profile that has a high ratio of low quality links you'll be hit.

If you see any of these words in a link building service hit the back button: Xrumer, Spun, Profiles, Scrapebox, Scraped, Pinged, Blast.

Even if you go the safer route and build Web 2's with no spun content, these properties pass very little juice as they are new. The links needed to rank are from sites with links and age.

To rank for competitive terms reliably requires links from diverse contextual properties that have built up trust and authority over a long time - there is no good shortcut.

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bobpruitt

12 years ago

That's just the way how it is when you get hit by Penguin update.
Liam's correct about this. You can simply email them yourself about this matter or hire a virtual private assistant who can do that for you for a low fee. It may or may not give you quick results but at you will surely have a peace of mind about those anchor links that caused you trouble from penguin.

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thedog

12 years ago

What about links that were added by someones profile?

For example, social bookmarking sites.

There's a ton of these... if I contact webmasters, and ask them to remove them... well... would they not just ask me to log in?

Originally Posted by bobpruitt

That's just the way how it is when you get hit by Penguin update.
Liam's correct about this. You can simply email them yourself about this matter or hire a virtual private assistant who can do that for you for a low fee. It may or may not give you quick results but at you will surely have a peace of mind about those anchor links that caused you trouble from penguin.

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rtc1979

12 years ago

If you have an unnatural anchor text profile, you can dilute the profile by building links with random anchor text...branded anchor text...and generic anchor text. But don't dilute with crap links. Take the time and do it right.

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thedog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rtc1979

If you have an unnatural anchor text profile, you can dilute the profile by building links with random anchor text...branded anchor text...and generic anchor text. But don't dilute with crap links. Take the time and do it right.

Cheers, so, what sort of links are ok these days?

Are Contextual relevant backlinks still the best?

Are blog comments relevant anymore... web 2.0 seems to have no juice....

I'd appreciate any tips, or a link to what sort of links I should be going after.

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scottmacair

12 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Cheers, so, what sort of links are ok these days?

Are Contextual relevant backlinks still the best?

Are blog comments relevant anymore... web 2.0 seems to have no juice....

I'd appreciate any tips, or a link to what sort of links I should be going after.

The best way to do this is to create your own properties and develop them gradually. Start by creating a few web 2's and slowly build links to them; after a few links / months you will have a few properties that can pass juice to your money site. Once you get some income rolling, develop a few hosted sites with registered domain names. Essentially create your own mini network that is a mix of various domains, platforms and themes.

This approach takes time but if you're serious about online marketing then this strategy will serve you well for the future - just make sure that the properties you develop have no footprint and appear 100% organic i.e. just replicate what happens naturally.

This is the only way you can be entirely sure about the quality and longevity of your strategy. I've wasted 1000's of dollars and thousands of hours on quick schemes that relied on others only to be let down time and time again.

So sit down and form a strategy - take some time and ask for feedback on the forum, you'll get lots of help. Yukon is always a great guy to with strategy.

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

Contextual links at high PR pages are the best obvious.

Blog comments are as good as dead

Web2.0's are great to funnel juice from private high PR domains.

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thedog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Contextual links at high PR pages are the best obvious.

Blog comments are as good as dead

Web2.0's are great to funnel juice from private high PR domains.

What are the best ways to get contextual links from high pr pages?

Guest blogging is one way I know of, although, I haven't had much luck with it... some blogs wanted me to actually pay to give them free content.

Are there any free methods for getting these kinds of links?

How about a non overkill fiverr gig? ie, http://fiverr.com/steve41/create-16-...-all-dofollow#

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

What are the best ways to get contextual links from high pr pages?

Guest blogging is one way I know of, although, I haven't had much luck with it... some blogs wanted me to actually pay to give them free content.

Are there any free methods for getting these kinds of links?

How about a non overkill fiverr gig? ie, Steve41 will create 16 contextual backlinks and post to pr3 to pr6 blogs in a large private network, all dofollow for $5, only on fiverr.com

Not surprising they want you to pay, you want a link right

A good link is much more valuable then $5 or $10 for a piece of content!

Other ways to get contextual links at high PR pages is to buy them, for example you can buy them from me, or you can e-mail webmasters and offer them money, or you can even buy your own high PR domains, just make sure you host them on a seperate IP adress. If you use the search function you'll find plenty of information about buying high PR domains.

Make sure you test that Fiverr gig on a site that you can miss first. I hear someone saying that it ends up on deindexed domains so you don't really want that right?

You can check if they are deindexed by using the site: command in Google after you receive your report!