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Warriors, How Do You Survive The Keyword Research? Place It Right Here!

by jideofor
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I have been trying to find a keyword with less than 50k competition for keywords with quote in it.

How do you find such keywords that are less than 50k in competition? Or do you go ahead irrespective of the competition? Is less than 50k the standard? If no, what other things should one look out for?

Thank you for your time!
#keyword #place #research #survive #warriors
  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I don't care about competition - I just care about my target audience and whether I can reach them with the resources I have. Since I usually offer some kind of unique value - There's always a way to differentiate from the competition, so I don't pay that any real attention.

    Quite often the 'competition' can turn out to be JV partners.
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  • Profile picture of the author jideofor
    Thank you. But you know, it's a wide spread believe that one would have to go through what I explained above; I am just trying to find some variation. Thank you for giving it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    First off, Andy hits the nail on the head. There is a lot to his answer if you think about what he says.

    Don't let supposed competition numbers bother you. Those 50,000 are across the board. The only ones that should concern you are top fold first page and really just number one. Do you have the same arsenal that those placements have. Can you better what they have brought to the game?

    If you were really competing against 50,000 it would be tough but since you do not want anything but the number one position .. there is really only one competitor for any keyword.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Why are you looking for this keyword? That makes a lot of difference in how much time it takes to do anything.

      If you are looking for a page title, that's one thing. It is always nice to able to find a keyword that is low comp and high traffic. But if you are looking for and EMD, you might as well stop right now because you don't need it in order to create a great site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Hardee
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      Don't let supposed competition numbers bother you. Those 50,000 are across the board. The only ones that should concern you are top fold first page and really just number one.
      I only use competition as a guideline when looking for keywords. The first page of Google is where the real information is. I've seen keywords with 4K of competition that I would never try because the first 5 in Google are all PR4+ with great SEO. On the other hand, I have seen some with 300K that were much easier.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by chardee42 View Post

        I only use competition as a guideline when looking for keywords. The first page of Google is where the real information is. I've seen keywords with 4K of competition that I would never try because the first 5 in Google are all PR4+ with great SEO. On the other hand, I have seen some with 300K that were much easier.
        I pay so much attention to PR that I disabled my Google toolbar lol.

        I can promise you those sites with great SEO have a hole somewhere. The question is .. is it better to fight them or join them?
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    I suspect that he read somewhere that all you need to make money is is a keyword phrase with fewer than 50K competing sites. *sigh*
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

    I have been trying to find a keyword with less than 50k competition for keywords with quote in it.
    Questions surrounding competition numbers are quite common, and it's somewhat understandable seeing as all "good SEO guides" make a point of harping on and on about this stuff like it's of Gospel importance.

    But think about it for a moment and you'll see why it's a load of codswallop.

    Why should the amount of competition matter when you're only competing for a page's worth of results anyway? Whether the competition is 30,000, 600,000 or 120,000,000 strong, it doesn't speak a damn about how hard it will be to rank somewhere among the top few positions, which are, in effect, your only real competition.

    Strength of competition should be of utmost concern (and yeah, I'll grant you that it's not always easy to gauge), but number of competition means squat in and of itself, and is something you'd do well to ignore in making an assessment of keyword viability.

    Just me tuppence, ol' bean.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      ^^^^ This ... exactly.

      When I'm looking at a keyword and deciding whether or not to try to rank for it, what concerns me is the SEO quality of the top 5 sites listed for that keyword. If I have no realistic chance of beating at least some of them, then it's not a keyword which will repay my time and trouble in trying to rank for it.

      It makes very little difference to me whether those top 5 sites are followed by 995 other sites, or 99,999,995 other sites.

      My number of competing sites is 5 and those are the only ones relevant to me.

      The "number of other competing sites", as Michael explains just above, is pure codswallop.

      Even now, with cod allegedly being an endangered species.
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      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Even now, with cod being allegedly being an endangered species.
        But at least then we can say, in true British form, what a load of Pollocks.
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    • Profile picture of the author shane_k
      Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

      Questions surrounding competition numbers are quite common, and it's somewhat understandable seeing as all "good SEO guides" make a point of harping on and on about this stuff like it's of Gospel importance.

      But think about it for a moment and you'll see why it's a load of codswallop.

      Why should the amount of competition matter when you're only competing for a page's worth of results anyway? Whether the competition is 30,000, 600,000 or 120,000,000 strong, it doesn't speak a damn about how hard it will be to rank somewhere among the top few positions, which are, in effect, your only real competition.

      Strength of competition should be of utmost concern (and yeah, I'll grant you that it's not always easy to gauge), but number of competition means squat in and of itself, and is something you'd do well to ignore in making an assessment of keyword viability.

      Just me tuppence, ol' bean.

      This is the differnce between someone who gets out there in the real world and takes action, and someone who just saw some information on a forum, or read some information somewhere by someone else, and resold that information as their own.

      In the real world you begin to realize that sure there might be 100,000 sites.

      But there are only 10 sites on page 1 of Google.

      You dont have to worry about the sites that are on pages 3, 8, 25, or 400, of Google.

      All those others sites on all those other pages are not sites that you are competing with.

      Unless your goal is to get to pages 4,5 or 6 of the SERP's, lol

      Since it's not then don't worry about all those other sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    You have 3 competitors in every SERP. That's it. Not 50,000, not 100,000, not millions... It makes no difference how many listings are in the search engine's index for the query.

    Top 3. Those are the ones you have to beat.
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    Dynamic SEO, learn it, live it.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Haven
    Competition doesn't matter much, but the best tool to use in my opinion is Market Samurai
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by SEO Haven View Post

      Competition doesn't matter much, but the best tool to use in my opinion is Market Samurai
      Actually, Market Samurai gives you almost no useful information. It's awful.
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