What would you do if you were GOOGLE?

Yeah but you have to remember it's not just spammy sites that get hit but also the good ones that did a bit of dark side SEO. I think by only considering the big players as having quality content makes the web elitist and a shite place. Look at the site Ehow for example. Their articles are shite that was quickly written to generate traffic but since their a big site they rank well.

Personally if I was Google I would help the little guys more as I don't want the internet to end up being the same as TV. Celebrity culture, elitism and a huge amount of advertising you are FORCED to watch. I would hate to see the internet go that way and thats what Google is doing at the moment. Monopolys are a terrible thing as all they do is make the rich richer and the poor poorer.


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In my opinion, you are partly correct. Google is trying to provide quality search results, but if you take a close look, you will notice that they are trying to find different ways of doing that, ways that will promote and sell their services. It was first the Google Places listings appearing in the search results. Then decreasing the search results to 7 when one of the results also has sitelinks. And I've also noticed that for some search queries where Google Places listings are returned, the number of regular, "organic" results is less than 10 (I even saw only 5 results once, but cannot find it anymore, so maybe it was just a one time thing). Let's top that with Google Plus mentions being favored in SERP's... So, if I was Google, I'd try to do exactly what they are doing: create a monopoly and advertise it as continuous struggle to create quality for the customers. And they're doing that very well.

Nice post Chucky

Yes, this is the fact.

I will manually review each site they deindexed and bring best sites to index back.

I'd partly agree with you Chuck.

Many people still think they can make money without providing any kind of value whatsoever to their readers/visitors, and that is a fatal flaw.

However, Google is not the "do no evil", "lets bring quality results to our users" kind of establishment as some people claim (and as they have somehow used to be).

While it is true that authority sites may provide more value in total than smaller sites, it's not the case that they have the answer to every query and hence should be occupying the first page of results for every search.

As it stands, Google tends to bring those sites (along with a few of their own properties) in almost every search, even if the content of their pages is remotely related to the search.

Moot question. Google does what's best for it's customers,
paid and free alike. Google has so many free kick-butt programs,
man, it's laughable to talk about wanting only paid customers.

(Look at apple's mini-debacle with google maps. Yes, stuff like
that is what the real internet world talks about)

Google also does what's best for it's shareholders.

Google could give a rat's hat about anyone Joe Blow
with a website.

Paul

I have no problem with Google or how it operates. Kind of funny some of these comments, manually review each website they de-index.. how do you pay for this again? Please don't think I am drinking the kool-aid because Google and I are currently in such a dis-agreement that I completely removed Adsense from my sites. Here is the thing, it is their company if you don't like it you have the choice do use something else. My wife likes Bing... You want to know why, because they have a nice picture. That is how your normal user thinks.

If I put trash out in front of my house, someone hauls it away.. you put trash on the internet, Google hauls it away. Seems to work

First, what Zeus says about SEO needing to be murky is ridiculous. Google or any other search engine for that matter doesn't care what website owners do as far as SEO is concerned. They don't say "let's throw them some curves and see who gives up". There will be a ranking of sites on a keyword no matter what happens, how many try or how many give up. Google's job is to provide the best results possible, not try to screw site owners. They couldn't care less who shows up on page one. They just care about improving their software to show those results.

Now, true that they want to keep how they do things secret. I'd want to do that too. But that's not why there are constant changes to the algorithm. It's because Google is a progressive company, the most progressive I know of. Besides, it is so big and complicated, nobody can figure it out, at least not unless you create some committee which would mean building your own engine. Some will figure out some small piece but not the whole pie. Or they'll get lucky and rank well and feel proud of themselves only to lose rank later.

Google is a business. The DNA of any business is to make money. But they are not out to get you and reduce your rank to get you to pay for your traffic. That's nonsense. When someone loses rank, someone else gains it. Explain to me how that helps Google.

>> if they go after shortterm money in the form of getting affiliates to spend on Adwords, I don't think that's going to be a sustainable business model for them.

There's a couple of flaws there. First, you assume, as an affiliate, that most Adwords are affiliates. They're not. Only a small percentage of Adwords users are, I'd say 5% or less. Most advertisers are those selling their own products. I've had over one hundred clients managing their PPC, only a handful were affiliates.

Second, the model is working and has for ten years so why would it not be sustainable? Advertisers will advertise where it makes sense and search engines make sense, the most sense of any form of advertising. That's not going to go away.

You also don't understand the model. Google doesn't go after the short term money. They go after the long term. If an advertiser quits, there's another right behind them that is better. This makes Google more money so they don't care if you are not willing to make it work, the one who does is who they are after.

What would I do if I were Google? Exactly the same.

I will implement a mp3 search engine if I'm google.

Google's popularity is based on its help to the society, if Google is altering its algorithm to help the society then we have to consider this thing.