Outsourcing SEO the legit way

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Hey guys,

since I got permanently suspended by Google Adwords, I was thinking of resorting to SEO to help sell my products. I am looking at outsourcing my SEO to odesk.. Hence my question:

1) What should I look out for when choosing an SEO outsourcer?
2) What should I be careful of? I know about blackhatting with invisible texts, was just wondering about the other stuff.
3) How much should I pay?
4) What are the different types of ways that an SEO outsourcer can do to get me on google's top rank?
5) What can I do to make the outsourcer's job easier.

Thanks for the help guys! Really awesome forum

PS> Yah, I'm aware of the other thread, wanted to start my own as my queries were more specific.

Regards,
Joshua
#legit #outsourcing #seo
  • Profile picture of the author humili
    I wrote an article about your concern here--->Seo services

    The main factors that affects your decision will be the company's track record and testimonials from the customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    You should learn SEO yourself mate and then just outsource your backlinking.

    Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

    Hey guys,

    since I got permanently suspended by Google Adwords, I was thinking of resorting to SEO to help sell my products. I am looking at outsourcing my SEO to odesk.. Hence my question:

    1) What should I look out for when choosing an SEO outsourcer?
    2) What should I be careful of? I know about blackhatting with invisible texts, was just wondering about the other stuff.
    3) How much should I pay?
    4) What are the different types of ways that an SEO outsourcer can do to get me on google's top rank?
    5) What can I do to make the outsourcer's job easier.

    Thanks for the help guys! Really awesome forum

    PS> Yah, I'm aware of the other thread, wanted to start my own as my queries were more specific.

    Regards,
    Joshua
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    Most women get ripped off with regard to car repairs because that have no clue whats going on. Don't be the female with regard to SEO Outsourcing. You need to learn it, understand it, know it well enough to do it yourself so you have some experience. Only then will you have a grasp on whats going on and not toss money away.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaAMP
    You are right Nelapsi- smart analogy. Right now, I feel like I'm a woman in a sleazy car repair shop...

    Backlinking wise, what should I be wary off? I've heard of people getting blacklisted and dropping off google's pagerank...

    So is this SEO strategy a sound one?

    1) Rank on content for long-tail keywords. Because I do a dating website, high-volume keywords such as "how to make a girl like you" is what i should be targeting, yes?

    2) Use backlinking services.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      You are right Nelapsi- smart analogy. Right now, I feel like I'm a woman in a sleazy car repair shop...

      Backlinking wise, what should I be wary off? I've heard of people getting blacklisted and dropping off google's pagerank...

      So is this SEO strategy a sound one?

      1) Rank on content for long-tail keywords. Because I do a dating website, high-volume keywords such as "how to make a girl like you" is what i should be targeting, yes?

      2) Use backlinking services.
      Yeah, you should first of all be learning the basics of SEO.

      Then out-source your back linking to people (like myself with a proven track record). There are HUNDREDS of legitimate members here on warrior that can do back link building and general seo services to ensure your website is SEO ready.

      Just be sure they can and are proving any work they do for you.

      As to be black listed, its rare and technically any SEO you do the engines do not like. But that isn't real seo.

      Real SEO is making a page that Google does like. Just my 2 cents my friend.

      If you don't mind, send me your URL and I can give you a couple of tips right now to improve your site / start doing to increase serp positions.
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    Sure.

    attractivemanprogram.com

    Thanks a lot gottlinks!
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    Ok, first off remove that link you just placed. Its an irrelevant link to your site from this forum. I will pm you soon
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    Sorry.. english please. Remember the woman in a car repair shop analogy.. Why is it irrelevant?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Sorry.. english please. Remember the woman in a car repair shop analogy.. Why is it irrelevant?
      Irrelevant means that a webmaster forum is not related to your website about men.

      And I just pmed you with a couple links to other sites that will teach you seo and also gave you 4 pointers of things to do on your website asap.

      Let me know if I can help you anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    Before you even sets your sites on backlinking you would do yourself a favor by making sure you grasp and understand keywork research. I say this because the better you target your content the less work it takes to rank.

    Now to be honest I am probably the last person to ask a bunch of things like this because I build completely different sites. but.. if it was me starting a site this is what I do..

    Register Domain
    Loop Process
    Research Article Topic
    Write Article
    Slap on sites facebook and twitter accounts
    Social Link Exchange (I use Follow Like)
    Repeat 50-100 times

    Only at this point do I start working on the site's back links. I have enough content that Google will already love the site, I tend to put up several articles a day and keep it steady while in building mode. Make sure you have solid linking to related content in your own website.. aka "Related Articles" links. Now from this I will have enough information to begin a second round of articles because I will begin to see how users are getting to my site, also because of all the prep work back linking content to page 1 and even rank 1 is fairly easy. The real reward for me I have noticed is after about 6-8 months users start creating back links for me. On my main site I tend to get 50-100 back links a week and I never do any of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaAMP
    Damn Warrior forums doesn't let me post links here again..lol
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaAMP
    Ok, quick question: by home page are u literally referring to -backlink removed-

    (Yes, I will remove my backlinks later on lol).
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    your actual url not /home
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    Also, any good books to read up on for SEO?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Also, any good books to read up on for SEO?
      SEO For Dummies is always good for the basics of on-page optimization but really those links I sent you will have WAY more current info then any good book.
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      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Also, any good books to read up on for SEO?
      Every book you purchase will be outdated 10 seconds after the first moment is is released. Think about it for a moment, over the last 60 days we have had some hefty updates that changed how a lot of people did things. When I started I read the forums here and took the terms/elements I found then googled them.
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      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Also, any good books to read up on for SEO?
      Check the link on my signature I hope it can help you find the SEO ebooks that you want.
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by creaturelocaljohn View Post

        Check the link on my signature I hope it can help you find the SEO ebooks that you want.
        Ummmm read below bro..

        Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

        Every book you purchase will be outdated 10 seconds after the first moment is is released. Think about it for a moment, over the last 60 days we have had some hefty updates that changed how a lot of people did things. When I started I read the forums here and took the terms/elements I found then googled them.
        This is excellent advice.

        SEO is constantly changing. If you do not have time to keep up then its better to out-source but then your only knowing what your SEO tells you. Its best to do both in my opinion.
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    Posting this for the benefit of all the guys here.. as well as gotlinks, of course- hope that this helps your search rankings =)

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    Hey friend,

    Yeah I saw your site before from another thread.

    Here is a few things I would start doing ASAP. SEO Is about improving rankings by first improving your website.

    Its actually a fact that websites earn traffic without trying if they are doing their seo the right way.

    You only need to rank for Long Tail Keywords and they are much easier to do so in.

    You can read these sites to learn seo better.

    People Making Money Online | Teaching everyone to make $$$ one step at a time!
    SEO Software. Simplified. | SEOmoz
    Search Engine Land: Must Read News About Search Marketing & Search Engines

    These sites will give you the absolute basics if you do not already know them.

    Ok lets get started:

    1. Remove all the links to your site from Warrior forum or any other webmaster related forums you can. These are un-related backlinks that are actually going to hurt your rankings.

    2. Figure out a way to link to your site articles from the home-page. Whether that's using like a Recent Posts widget or directly linking to them. You will need this to allow link-juice to flow properly.

    3. Ensure you have unique articles on your site (not scraped ones, you wont rank as well without unique stuff, simple as that).

    4. You need to build backlinks, lots and lots of them with varied anchor texts and Naked Links. (THESE ARE IMPORTANT AFTER PANDA / PENGUIN). You need to build backlinks DIRECTLY to your long-tail keyword pages.

    When building backlinks you want to get a Tier system going. Basically you create 5-10 what I like to call Filter sites that are linking to your money sites articles with naked anchors and varied anchor text keywords relative to your articles.

    Then you blast these Filter sites with tons of links using a link wheel and high pr links much like the service I offer here: http://www.piratesofblogging.com/lin...ding-services/ But you can select any back link building service you like just be sure the person is American or you will end up with a ton of spam. (a little spam is ok, remember, we are trying to keep it natural looking to the engines for improved rankings, every site gets a little spam so you need SOME too but not too much).

    I hope this helps mate, let me know if you have any questions I am more then happy to help you figure this all out and I would love to do business with you if that can happen but either way I am here to help!
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaAMP
    Hey Gotlinks, just question.

    If I were to post this message on my home page, would it help?

    " Don't forget to enjoy our free articles!"
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    It would help but not as much as actually linking to them like this.

    Top Rated Articles

    1 Article one here
    2 article two here
    3 article 3 listed here

    etc...
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    Any tips on how to write "unique" content that is SEO friendly?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Any tips on how to write "unique" content that is SEO friendly?
      Hire an article writer and give them titles that contain the long tail keywords you want to rank for.
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    Err, I'm not too certain if those guys are good. I also think that my content is kinda different from the rest of the guys, so I've rather do it myself..

    And I can't reply to your personal PMs. Need 50 posts or more...

    I have a friend who's ranked on the first page for 'post-natal' message, she's pretty good at this kind of stuff.
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      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Err, I'm not too certain if those guys are good. I also think that my content is kinda different from the rest of the guys, so I've rather do it myself..

      And I can't reply to your personal PMs. Need 50 posts or more...

      I have a friend who's ranked on the first page for 'post-natal' message, she's pretty good at this kind of stuff.
      Oh i didn't know you couldn't respond to PMS my bad!

      Actually there are some content writers that KICK BUTT.

      You just gotta know how to find em.

      The good ones are usually pretty busy to the prices are higher but for me its worth it for unique content.
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    Just so you know this person on Fiverr Brlamc will write amazing professional articles with seo up to 500 words for $5, only on fiverr.com

    I use this person myself and for $5 you cannot beat the quality.

    Just a small tip my friend
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    Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

    Just so you know this person on Fiverr Brlamc will write amazing professional articles with seo up to 500 words for $5, only on fiverr.com

    I use this person myself and for $5 you cannot beat the quality.

    Just a small tip my friend
    What exactly do I need to pass to him in order to get a really article?

    I've shortlisted the following key terms:

    How to get a girl
    get a girl
    friend zone
    friendzone
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    You simply need to give him the TITLE of your article "how to get a girl" is plenty of info.

    Then tell him shandaman sent you cuz thats my fiverr username.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshuaAMP
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      You simply need to give him the TITLE of your article "how to get a girl" is plenty of info.

      Then tell him shandaman sent you cuz thats my fiverr username.
      Thanks!

      Ok, quick question but I have a few articles that I would like to 'juice' up for some long-tail keywords. What should I know about how to write an SEO friendly article? stuff like meta tags, headers,titles etc.
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    Yoast Wordpress PLugin is good for writing good SEO Posts+
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    Thanks! That was awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    Yoast Wordpress Plugin will help you out.

    Also read this: How To Write Good SEO Articles in 2012?
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    Ok, stupid newbi question but Yoast says that I have a 'stop' word. The problem is, my keywords are full of stop words with plenty of "a" and "girls" in it.. how do I overcome this issue or is it not problem at all?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    Its not the biggest problem.

    Basically just make sure the articles don't look seo'd with keywords all over. They should flow almost as if someone were reading a story or book.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaAMP
    Hey Gotlinks

    If I were to put one of my articles as a link on How to Get a Girl to Like You: 16 steps (with pictures) - wikiHow, would it help?

    I refer to point #1..

    Oh, and thank you so much for the help. I am not the ungrateful sort and will definitely refer my friends - or buy from you- once I'm done sorting out this facebook advertising schmooz lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by JoshuaAMP View Post

      Hey Gotlinks

      If I were to put one of my articles as a link on How to Get a Girl to Like You: 16 steps (with pictures) - wikiHow, would it help?

      I refer to point #1..

      Oh, and thank you so much for the help. I am not the ungrateful sort and will definitely refer my friends - or buy from you- once I'm done sorting out this facebook advertising schmooz lol.
      No problem.

      And yeah a link there would help but it will prolly be a No-Follow link so it wont really help rankings directly, it just helps tell the engines what your page is about.

      Read about no-follow links here: SEO: Are Nofollow Links Still Valuable?
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    god there is soooo much to learn about outsourcing seo, cheers for all the info guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProSence
    OR, you can choose some seo service providers from any freelance sites, the thing is you are able to know their rating and always go with higher rating.
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    You can also get seo service providers from freelance sites and go with those who have higher rating.
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