Anyone losing PR on bought aged domains

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Hi guys,

The last few domains that i bought with PR have lost there PR in days after i`ve bought them even though i added privacy right away

Anyone else had this happen ? Its made me pretty fed up today as this is the 3d domain i`ve lost but i really dont understand it 2 of them are now PR0 so its not like they have been deindexed ?

Jim

Did the domain age stay in tact? Or were these domains completely dropped?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Domain age is ok the domain seller says .. `It happened because you did a 301 redirection` ?? dont i need to use a plugin to do that ?

he then says..

you need to do the opposite
from root to www
this is because most backlinks are pointing to www

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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Domain age is ok the domain seller says .. `It happened because you did a 301 redirection` ?? dont i need to use a plugin to do that ?

he then says..

you need to do the opposite
from root to www
this is because most backlinks are pointing to www

That would explain it. Right now it sounds like you can access the website using both domain.com and www.domain.com. If this is Wordpress, just change it to www.domain.com under General Settings.

If it's not Wordpress, you can use .htaccess to do it.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Hi so it is wordpress and so if i go into general setting i can see both
WordPress Address (URL) http://mydomain.com
Site Address (URL) http://mydomain.com

do i need to change `both ` to www.mydomain.com?

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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Hi so it is wordpress and so if i go into general setting i can see both
WordPress Address (URL) http://mydomain.com
Site Address (URL) http://mydomain.com

do i need to change `both ` to www.mydomain.com?

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Yep, change both to the www.domain.com and this problem should be resolved! Don't forget to update your 'ticket' when it is

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Domain age is ok the domain seller says .. `It happened because you did a 301 redirection` ?? dont i need to use a plugin to do that ?

he then says..

you need to do the opposite
from root to www
this is because most backlinks are pointing to www

Yes that can do it but all you hace to do is gog to google and type in

info:www.thedomain.com
info:thedomain.com

if both of them show PR 0 then you probably have been ripped

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Anil Kint 12 years ago

Did you perform a fake PR check before buying the domains ?
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gotlinks

12 years ago

Let me guess. These domains had zero to no backlinks?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by gotlinks

Let me guess. These domains had zero to no backlinks?

Mate the backlink profile is pretty good

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gotlinks

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Mate the backlink profile is pretty good

What do you consider pretty good?

If its not great then your chance of losing pr is great.

Plus did you change the site content? Move it at all? All this can affect it.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by gotlinks

Plus did you change the site content? Move it at all? All this can affect it.

This is 100% false. Changing the content has nothing to do with PR. NOTHING. You could change the page to say "Google is full of big fat idiots" and you will maintain the same PR.

Jim, as others have pointed out, this is most likely due to you not having the WWW or non-WWW version of your site picked out that has PR.

PageRank is assigned to pages, not domains.

http://www.mydomain.com

and

http://mydomain.com

are two different and distinct pages in the eyes of the search engines, as silly as that may seem. It is possible to have a domain where one has a PR and the other has a PR of 0, especially if the previous owner did not have a proper redirect set up to the preferred version.

You said you are using Wordpress, so just change the settings to the other version, and I bet you will see the PR pop back up in the toolbar.

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gotlinks

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

This is 100% false. Changing the content has nothing to do with PR. NOTHING. You could change the page to say "Google is full of big fat idiots" and you will maintain the same PR.

Jim, as others have pointed out, this is most likely due to you not having the WWW or non-WWW version of your site picked out that has PR.

PageRank is assigned to pages, not domains.

http://www.mydomain.com

and

http://mydomain.com

are two different and distinct pages in the eyes of the search engines, as silly as that may seem. It is possible to have a domain where one has a PR and the other has a PR of 0, especially if the previous owner did not have a proper redirect set up to the preferred version.

You said you are using Wordpress, so just change the settings to the other version, and I bet you will see the PR pop back up in the toolbar.

If you remove content off a site the original backlinks could become irrelevant and I believe Google would then drop PR because backlinks have been dropped?

Just my opinion.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by gotlinks

If you remove content off a site the original backlinks could become irrelevant and I believe Google would then drop PR because backlinks have been dropped?

Just my opinion.

If the sites linking to you choose to remove the links, that is the only way you would lose the links and then could lose PR.

However, even if that happened, you would not see a loss in the toolbar PR until the next PR update.

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gotlinks 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

If the sites linking to you choose to remove the links, that is the only way you would lose the links and then could lose PR.

Right. Thats what I was trying to say.
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- MikeFriedman 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by gotlinks
  
  Right. Thats what I was trying to say.
  
  Ok, but the original poster said the PR was lost within days of buying the domain.
  
  A loss of links would not cause that. The toobar PR is not updated in real time.
  
  So you were right in the general sense, but wrong in this situation.
  
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Danny Woolard

12 years ago

Ok, I have a related question:

I use wordpress. My site can be accessed both via www and without.

When I do my backlinking, I've been mixing www.site dot com and http://site dot com

Do I need to stick with one? And if so, which one?

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gotlinks

12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

Ok, I have a related question:

I use wordpress. My site can be accessed both via www and without.

When I do my backlinking, I've been mixing www.site dot com and http://site dot com

Do I need to stick with one? And if so, which one?

Either can rank but if you use Google Webmaster tools you can specify all the results shown in the index are one or the other. I prefer www.

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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

Ok, I have a related question:

I use wordpress. My site can be accessed both via www and without.

First of all, you need to fix this.

Originally Posted by denutza

When I do my backlinking, I've been mixing www.site dot com and http://site dot com

Do I need to stick with one? And if so, which one?

I always prefer to do a little of both. It's more natural looking. However, you need to have the proper 301 redirect setup between the non-WWW and WWW version or else the links will not be working together. Links pointing to the non-WWW version will only benefit the non-WWW version and vice versa.

Now there is a little bit of linkjuice loss on the 301 redirect. It is minor, but still there. Because of that I always make sure my best links are pointing to the preferred version of the site.
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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

Ok, I have a related question:

I use wordpress. My site can be accessed both via www and without.

When I do my backlinking, I've been mixing www.site dot com and http://site dot com

Do I need to stick with one? And if so, which one?

Yes you need to stick with one. Otherwise you split PR between the two. Use a 301 redirection plugin or an 'SEO plugin' like Yoast to take care of that for you. The 301 redirection will force one version, reuniting the split PR.

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Danny Woolard

12 years ago

Originally Posted by PerformanceMan

Yes you need to stick with one. Otherwise you split PR between the two. Use a 301 redirection plugin or an 'SEO plugin' like Yoast to take care of that for you. The 301 redirection will force one version, reuniting the split PR.

What if I just put it in the htaccess? and which one is the preferable landing page?

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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

What if I just put it in the htaccess? and which one is the preferable landing page?

Yes, put it in the .htaccess file.
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UMS 12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

What if I just put it in the htaccess? and which one is the preferable landing page?

If you have WordPress, you don't need any additional plugins or .htaccess entries to do a redirect from the non-www domain to the www domain (or vice-versa).

WordPress does that automatically for you out of the box.
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Danny Woolard

12 years ago

Also I just bought a PR4 and it goes live tomorrow.

I was thinking of using an SEONUKE gig with solid reviews from fiverr.

For one, Im not as confident about my backlinks as OP is, and secondly Ive heard google is a bit more lax with high PR sites that do aggressive backlinking.

Thoughts??

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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

Also I just bought a PR4 and it goes live tomorrow.

I was thinking of using an SEONUKE gig with solid reviews from fiverr.

For one, Im not as confident about my backlinks as OP is, and secondly Ive heard google is a bit more lax with high PR sites that do aggressive backlinking.

Thoughts??

I would let it go live first. Then let Google cache the new page before doing any link building.

I take it you have the content ready and are trying to rank the PR4 site? I would still go with tiered link building over directing Fiverr gigs right at the site.

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Danny Woolard

12 years ago

yes. I have some content ready. Some of the fiverr gigs will do tiered link building. Such as SeoNuke XCR gigs.

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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by denutza

yes. I have some content ready. Some of the fiverr gigs will do tiered link building. Such as SeoNuke XCR gigs.

So you spent a bunch of money for a PR4 domain and then you are going to go cheap on the link building? I don't get it.
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- Mike Anthony 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  So you spent a bunch of money for a PR4 domain and then you are going to go cheap on the link building? I don't get it.
  
  Meh .... Maybe he just doesn't want the PR4 to feel like it is out of place among his other SEnukeX blast sites
  
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  RajSrivastav 12 years ago
  
  I have purchased a domain with PR 2. Previously this domain used to display Google adsense along with Link juice passing. Now i have created a site for SEO Purpose. After few days i have lost my PR and now Its Zero.
  
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- Danny Woolard 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  So you spent a bunch of money for a PR4 domain and then you are going to go cheap on the link building? I don't get it.
  
  Don't drink and SEO...Ha Ha...I like that.
  
  Not that it's alot, but I've spent $50-$100 on SEO for other websites on highly recommended WSO's for SEO, and they got me nowhere, perhaps even penalized.
  
  The PR4 cost was $150.
  
  This was the gig I had in mind. Call me naive, but I find the reviews to be credible:
  
  Blackhatwarrior will use senuke xcr to create
  
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UMS

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Hi guys,

The last few domains that i bought with PR have lost there PR in days after i`ve bought them even though i added privacy right away

Anyone else had this happen ? Its made me pretty fed up today as this is the 3d domain i`ve lost but i really dont understand it 2 of them are now PR0 so its not like they have been deindexed ?

Jim

There's been no PR update recently, so something very strange is going on.

What method are you using to check the PR?

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