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Having An SEO Dilemma

by Michael Foze
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I've made a few threads asking for someone to help me with SEO. I got a few people interested and we talked over skype,email etc but eventually they all stopped replying.

I was offering a 50/50 split JV but I'm not making any money with the site atm. That's probably what made they stop replying. They didn't want to work for free i guess.

But here's the dilemma...

I can't do SEO. I could try to learn it but I've also been told by other marketers that SEO is extremely hard to learn because of ever-changing updates. Also I don't have money for any SEO tools.

So either I try and blindly learn SEO(don't exactly know where to look for a UP TO DATE definitive guide or I get someone that is willing to help me for free or a 50/50 JV as I can't pay for services.
#dilemma #seo
  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    Originally Posted by Michael Foze View Post

    I've made a few threads asking for someone to help me with SEO. I got a few people interested and we talked over skype,email etc but eventually they all stopped replying.

    I was offering a 50/50 split JV but I'm not making any money with the site atm. That's probably what made they stop replying. They didn't want to work for free i guess.

    But here's the dilemma...

    I can't do SEO. I could try to learn it but I've also been told by other marketers that SEO is extremely hard to learn because of ever-changing updates. Also I don't have money for any SEO tools.

    So either I try and blindly learn SEO(don't exactly know where to look for a UP TO DATE definitive guide or I get someone that is willing to help me for free or a 50/50 JV as I can't pay for services.
    You should be learning SEO mate.

    Read blogs, read the forums, ask questions and figure this bad boy out!

    Its in your best interest to do this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Foze
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      You should be learning SEO mate.

      Read blogs, read the forums, ask questions and figure this bad boy out!

      Its in your best interest to do this.
      I feel like I read too much, and don't actually take action.

      And most blogs don't go into enough detail past the basics.
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by Michael Foze View Post

        I feel like I read too much, and don't actually take action.

        And most blogs don't go into enough detail past the basics.
        That is not true my friend.

        My blog alone I teach everything from backlinks to on page factors to advanced tier'd linking and adsense niche sites.

        Others do as well.

        You just have to pursue it like your life depends on it. Your websites life certainly does.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    First things first.. Being an SEO Expert is easy.. just put it in your signature like the rest do and you will be covered.

    Back to reality:
    No one fully understands it because Google does not release detailed enough information on how things work however people are quite well versed in because they experiment, read forum threads, ask direction questions, research on google for different things and topics but at the end of the day you have to be doing it to learn it.

    Time to pull up those big boy pants and get to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheContentAuthority
    Michael Foze,

    I can sympathize with your situation. Its tough to get services you need when you are short on funds. That being said, it may be difficult to find someone to work for you for free with the promise of payment later on down the road, especially in a virtual world. SEO is not that difficult to learn however it is a tedious practice that requires constant attention. This is perhaps why those you were working with stopped contacting you. I would try and learn some basics about the practice (these are things that haven’t changed in a number of years like targeting keywords and including them in copy).

    Keep up to date on industry news by reading the blogs and following the social media accounts of industry leaders. SEOMoz is a good one along with @randfish – Rand Fishkin the organization’s founder. Another good resource is SearchEngineLand.com and you could follow @DannySullivan – Danny Sullivan, the website’s Editor. Matt Cutts -- @mattcutts who is head of the webspam team at Google is another great resource.

    Once you have a firm footing in white hat SEO, you should also learn about black hat tactics. Although some may not agree, you should avoid using these as they are not effective for long term success but knowing what they are will help you understand what is happening in the industry and help you avoid using them.

    Here are some additional resources to get you started.

    Top 20 SEO Experts to Follow on Twitter | SEOmistry

    Learn SEO | SEOmoz

    Best of luck on your SEO initiatives!

    Shawn
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    Here is a good place for you to start learning the real nitty gritty-

    The Ultimate Guide To Tiered Link Building Part 1 - Matthew Woodward
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  • Profile picture of the author namesbeyond
    Originally Posted by Michael Foze View Post

    I've made a few threads asking for someone to help me with SEO. I got a few people interested and we talked over skype,email etc but eventually they all stopped replying.

    I was offering a 50/50 split JV but I'm not making any money with the site atm. That's probably what made they stop replying. They didn't want to work for free i guess.

    But here's the dilemma...

    I can't do SEO. I could try to learn it but I've also been told by other marketers that SEO is extremely hard to learn because of ever-changing updates. Also I don't have money for any SEO tools.

    So either I try and blindly learn SEO(don't exactly know where to look for a UP TO DATE definitive guide or I get someone that is willing to help me for free or a 50/50 JV as I can't pay for services.
    Go through this URL Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help
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  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    learning it is in your best interest, plenty of posts and articles on here,
    and guides you can download, sign up for email lists!

    you might be in the wrong business if you dont wan to spend anything on marketing, people can do JV splits, but if that means 1 person taking over your site so that yo ucan make money its not a tasty offer. Why would a professional want to spend time making you money when they have clients who pay them to do just that?

    I would suggest finding some funds to invest into your own business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Foze
      Originally Posted by TheContentAuthority View Post

      Michael Foze,

      I can sympathize with your situation. Its tough to get services you need when you are short on funds. That being said, it may be difficult to find someone to work for you for free with the promise of payment later on down the road, especially in a virtual world. SEO is not that difficult to learn however it is a tedious practice that requires constant attention. This is perhaps why those you were working with stopped contacting you. I would try and learn some basics about the practice (these are things that haven't changed in a number of years like targeting keywords and including them in copy).

      Keep up to date on industry news by reading the blogs and following the social media accounts of industry leaders. SEOMoz is a good one along with @randfish - Rand Fishkin the organization's founder. Another good resource is SearchEngineLand.com and you could follow @DannySullivan - Danny Sullivan, the website's Editor. Matt Cutts -- @mattcutts who is head of the webspam team at Google is another great resource.

      Once you have a firm footing in white hat SEO, you should also learn about black hat tactics. Although some may not agree, you should avoid using these as they are not effective for long term success but knowing what they are will help you understand what is happening in the industry and help you avoid using them.

      Here are some additional resources to get you started.

      Top 20 SEO Experts to Follow on Twitter | SEOmistry

      Learn SEO | SEOmoz

      Best of luck on your SEO initiatives!

      Shawn
      Originally Posted by awj888 View Post

      learning it is in your best interest, plenty of posts and articles on here,
      and guides you can download, sign up for email lists!

      you might be in the wrong business if you dont wan to spend anything on marketing, people can do JV splits, but if that means 1 person taking over your site so that yo ucan make money its not a tasty offer. Why would a professional want to spend time making you money when they have clients who pay them to do just that?

      I would suggest finding some funds to invest into your own business.
      These posts really helped me out.

      Thanks!
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