How to Determine a Backlink Quality

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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    If its indexed in Google = good back link
    If its from a domain thats deinexed in Google = bad backlink

    The way I see it, if its good enough to be in Googles index, its good enough to point at my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      If its indexed in Google = good back link
      If its from a domain thats deinexed in Google = bad backlink

      The way I see it, if its good enough to be in Googles index, its good enough to point at my site.
      Backlinks to your money site should always be HIGH QUALITY. Thats what my method shows. Id love to hear about improved ranking success with trash links now in 2012/2013. Cuz all of my tests have shown negative results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      If its indexed in Google = good back link
      If its from a domain thats deinexed in Google = bad backlink

      The way I see it, if its good enough to be in Googles index, its good enough to point at my site.
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Friday evening living in denial. I liked that Matthew.
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    • Profile picture of the author retsek
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      If its indexed in Google = good back link
      If its from a domain thats deinexed in Google = bad backlink

      The way I see it, if its good enough to be in Googles index, its good enough to point at my site.
      God man, have some standards.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
        gotlinks: i would like to exchange my entire blog network of 30 high quality sites for your 1 PR 9 website.

        Sincerely,
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

          gotlinks: i would like to exchange my entire blog network of 30 high quality sites for your 1 PR 9 website.

          Sincerely,
          - TheFBGuy
          I can get you a PR9 with more links....and I'll only require 20 of your domains.

          Deal?
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          • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            I can get you a PR9 with more links....and I'll only require 20 of your domains.

            Deal?
            Deal indeed kind sir, let me know when we shall make this transaction
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            • Profile picture of the author Shirley White
              There are certain resources where from you can examine excellent backlinks.I know very well about this.If you right in Search engines about this you will get great outcomes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Oswald Joshua
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      If its indexed in Google = good back link
      If its from a domain thats deinexed in Google = bad backlink

      The way I see it, if its good enough to be in Googles index, its good enough to point at my site.
      You summarized it in two sentences. Great IQ. Loved your argument
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by Oswald Joshua View Post

        You summarized it in two sentences. Great IQ. Loved your argument
        If that were true don't you think SEO would be way easier friend?

        I'm sorry but thats a very quick way to get your site penalized.

        Not just any link will work. It needs to be of high quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I'm sure you will throw another infraction at me, but you asked for feedback, so here goes. This is not a personal attack, but overall the guide is completely lacking. You missed so many key, but obvious points in determining the quality of a backlink.

    What about checking if the site is even indexed? Kind of important.

    How about the PageRank of the page where the link will appear?

    How many outgoing backlinks are already on the page? This is a huge one. If there are already 300 outgoing backlinks on the page, there is no point in researching it any further.

    Anchor text variation has nothing to do with link quality.

    Where on the page will the link appear? A footer link is a lot less valuable to me than an in-context link on a page where the article will remain. A sidebar link is even less valuable to me.

    Also, while I use SEOmoz pretty extensively, I do not base any decisions solely on DA and PA. It is a proprietary system belonging to SEOmoz and does not necessarily reflect how Google views the page. I prefer to use DA, PA, and mT in conjunction with PR and an analysis of the page's backlinks to confirm the figures.

    Although you mention buying links, you do not discuss anything about prices.

    As for your "secret" at the end about uncovering competitor's links and asking for links from those sites yourself, I don't see that as secret at all. Tons of people know to do that. Most just don't do it.

    I could go on, but that's enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I'm sure you will throw another infraction at me, but you asked for feedback, so here goes. This is not a personal attack, but overall the guide is completely lacking. You missed so many key, but obvious points in determining the quality of a backlink.

      What about checking if the site is even indexed? Kind of important.

      How about the PageRank of the page where the link will appear?

      How many outgoing backlinks are already on the page? This is a huge one. If there are already 300 outgoing backlinks on the page, there is no point in researching it any further.

      Anchor text variation has nothing to do with link quality.

      Where on the page will the link appear? A footer link is a lot less valuable to me than an in-context link on a page where the article will remain. A sidebar link is even less valuable to me.

      Also, while I use SEOmoz pretty extensively, I do not base any decisions solely on DA and PA. It is a proprietary system belonging to SEOmoz and does not necessarily reflect how Google views the page. I prefer to use DA, PA, and mT in conjunction with PR and an analysis of the page's backlinks to confirm the figures.

      Although you mention buying links, you do not discuss anything about prices.

      As for your "secret" at the end about uncovering competitor's links and asking for links from those sites yourself, I don't see that as secret at all. Tons of people know to do that. Most just don't do it.

      I could go on, but that's enough.
      Some good points.

      I tried to keep it more on the basic level but you are right I left out stuff about page rank because in my personal opinion page rank is no longer a valid method for quality links.

      The placement of links is a great point however its also determine on a site by site basis so I couldn't honestly give an opinion on what is best other then I believe contextual in content links are the better choice.

      Your point on how many out-bound links was very good indeed and I should not have missed that one.

      Prices are irrelevant to me personally when buying for clients. I want the best I can give them so that's why I didn't list that. And honestly nobody can put a price on a link. Its up to the website owner so I would be doing my readers an injustice to give a price list I think...

      But you do have some good points and I appreciate your honesty Mike!
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        I tried to keep it more on the basic level but you are right I left out stuff about page rank because in my personal opinion page rank is no longer a valid method for quality links.
        Based on what? I'm curious.

        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        The placement of links is a great point however its also determine on a site by site basis so I couldn't honestly give an opinion on what is best other then I believe contextual in content links are the better choice.
        It is a huge factor in link quality. If all I can get from a site is a sidebar link, 99% of the time I'm skipping it.

        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        Prices are irrelevant to me personally when buying for clients. I want the best I can give them so that's why I didn't list that. And honestly nobody can put a price on a link. Its up to the website owner so I would be doing my readers an injustice to give a price list I think...
        Alright, but I would at least maybe mention something about prices that are too good to be true. If someone is selling a PR 7 link for $20, they are full of crap. That kind of thing.

        I also think that anchor text variation is complete hogwash. But most people buy into that, so trying to convince anyone otherwise is a waste of time.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Based on what? I'm curious.



          It is a huge factor in link quality. If all I can get from a site is a sidebar link, 99% of the time I'm skipping it.



          Alright, but I would at least maybe mention something about prices that are too good to be true. If someone is selling a PR 7 link for $20, they are full of crap. That kind of thing.

          I also think that anchor text variation is complete hogwash. But most people buy into that, so trying to convince anyone otherwise is a waste of time.
          Based on the fact that I own a PR9 website and its got 6 backlinks. Pagerank is not at all a good factor for a QUALITY authority link (the title of my post).

          It may be a huge factor (couldn't say for sure) but I did mention in my post that I believe contexual links are the best. Sidebar, footer and header links are DEF spam signals so I wouldn't direct anyone to that anyways but I do like your point so I will try to update the post or maybe make a part 2 to it.

          And yes, price is important but if they check that pr7 backlink via my method that my post talks about then they wont have a problem knowing if its quality or not....

          Text variation in my opinion is important. I recovered a site from page #2 to top 5 just by doing that sooo.. I will have to go with my results on that one.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

            Based on the fact that I own a PR9 website and its got 6 backlinks.

            It's not a real PR 9 then.

            Facebook is a PR 9. CNN is a PR 9. I find it hard to believe you own a site that is on the same level as Facebook or CNN. You bought a domain with fake PR I would bet.
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            • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              It's not a real PR 9 then.

              Facebook is a PR 9. CNN is a PR 9. I find it hard to believe you own a site that is on the same level as Facebook or CNN. You bought a domain with fake PR I would bet.
              Nope. The pagerank is real.

              But it doesn't matter because again, Page Rank doesn't matter.

              The PR is valid though. However writing a post showing how to determine how page rank is real or not would be a whole nother topic. The point being that it is not a good way to check for quality. At least not in my opinion or in a lot of seos eyes.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                PM me the domain and I will prove to you it is fake.
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                • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  PM me the domain and I will prove to you it is fake.
                  Its real mate. Just because it says pr9 does not mean it will give you the quality or authority of a pr9.

                  I think by fake you mean not quality and I would agree. However the toolbar and checkpagerank.net and other page rank checking tools all say its pr9.

                  However with 5 backlinks making it a pr9 it wont pass any link juice or value having a link on it. Am I correct Good Sir?
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Also, while I use SEOmoz pretty extensively, I do not base any decisions solely on DA and PA. It is a proprietary system belonging to SEOmoz and does not necessarily reflect how Google views the page. I prefer to use DA, PA, and mT in conjunction with PR and an analysis of the page's backlinks to confirm the figures.
      Also forgot about this one.

      I don't believe half the crap SEOmoz talks about. But they have awesome tools that work really well and opensite explorer is free so I enjoy the benefits.

      But they say Don't Buy Links. They are stupid most of the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author daveGmac
    My first post...

    I am wondering if there is some statistics available as to the effectiveness of this method, with a new site I would surely appreciate a supply of good backlinks.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by daveGmac View Post

      My first post...

      I am wondering if there is some statistics available as to the effectiveness of this method, with a new site I would surely appreciate a supply of good backlinks.

      Thanks
      Statistics are in the fact that I get sites to rank with this method and any good seo will agree that it does show the quality of a backlink.

      Search your competition backlinks this way and then try to acquire those links and you will rank. Nuff said.
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  • Profile picture of the author operationoffers
    With the advent of so many services that create backlink on auto..it is no surprise Google has cracked down on backlinks and what it considers quality. I am glad for this because I try to create the best backlinks even though I don’t engage in a lot of SEO. I know my publishers do and I hate to see so much trash out there when it comes to phony comments and the like etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by operationoffers View Post

      With the advent of so many services that create backlink on auto..it is no surprise Google has cracked down on backlinks and what it considers quality. I am glad for this because I try to create the best backlinks even though I don't engage in a lot of SEO. I know my publishers do and I hate to see so much trash out there when it comes to phony comments and the like etc..
      Its sad that we do have to resort to techniques like this but also good because the weak linkers will eventually die out.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Those tools are garbage for checking if the PR is real or fake.

    There is no such thing as a low quality real PR 9 page. A PR 9 domain is worth millions of dollars. You do not have a real one. You got suckered by someone.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Those tools are garbage for checking if the PR is real or fake.

      There is no such thing as a low quality real PR 9 page. A PR 9 domain is worth millions of dollars. You do not have a real one. You got suckered by someone.

      Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
      Lol? Perhaps you have not been reading what I said.

      Ive already said the link from this pr9 is worthless. That isnt the point. Its still a REAL pr9 in that the page rank shows it. Its just a worthless one nobody is disagreeing about that Mike..
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    Just PM him the domain, I'm having a slow day and could use a good laugh
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by lutherlars View Post

      Just PM him the domain, I'm having a slow day and could use a good laugh
      Id rather not. Not because I do not believe it to be real but because it has zero to do with this thread and mike was very rude in another pm I sent to him trying to make peace about another thread and I am not in the mood to battle something so trivial out with him that isn't related to this thread.

      Pagerank simply is not a good enough factor to be on my list for an authority link I am considering the purchase of.

      Thats it.
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        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        Id rather not. Not because I do not believe it to be real but because it has zero to do with this thread and mike was very rude in another pm I sent to him trying to make peace about another thread and I am not in the mood to battle something so trivial out with him that isn't related to this thread.

        Pagerank simply is not a good enough factor to be on my list for an authority link I am considering the purchase of.

        Thats it.
        Let's set the record straight. You were spreading misinformation in another thread. I called you out on it. For that you gave me an infraction. Then when other people jumped in and agreed with me you tried to apologize to me in a PM. I wasn't rude to you. I just told you I wanted nothing to do with your apology.

        As for the topic at hand...

        YOU DO NOT HAVE A REAL PR 9 AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A REAL, BUT LOW QUALITY PR 9 DOMAIN!!!!

        Just because something shows up as a PR 9 in the toolbar or whatever silly PR checkers you are using, does not mean it is real. You clearly do not understand how fake PR works. If it was a real PR 9, as I said before, it would be worth millions of dollars. Millions.

        Let's look at some number according to OpenSite Explorer.

        PR 9 sites

        Facebook 20.09 million links.
        Yahoo 10.68 million links
        CNN 1.77 million links.
        PrChecker.info 6.65 million links.
        New York Times 1.60 million links.

        gotlinks' PR 9 website... 6 links. :confused::confused:

        Yours is fake. You would have to be a complete fool to really believe you own a real, legitimate PR 9 website.

        If you would like some tips on determining if PR is real or not before you waste money on another domain, feel free to ask. There are plenty of people here that can educate you.
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    Guess I'll have to find something else to entertain me for another hour.
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      Originally Posted by lutherlars View Post

      Guess I'll have to find something else to entertain me for another hour.
      Or go build yourself some backlinks
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    You have been Pm'ed friend.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      You have been Pm'ed friend.
      I responded. The example you sent me is clearly not a real PR 9.

      I will not share it with anyone else, but it is a domain less than 2 years old. There are barely any backlinks, and only 3 of them that I can find have any actual PR. One of them is a PR 7 that is also clearly faked. The other is a PR 3 and a PR 2.

      It does pass the info: test, but as most of know, that is not 100% accurate in determining fake PR.

      Another telltale sign that it is fake... If you scroll to the bottom of the page there are links for page 2, 3, 4, etc. They are all PR 0. Now if this was a real PR 9 with internal links off the homepage directly to other pages, those pages would have at least a PR 3-4, much more likely 6 or 7. They would not be PR 0's.

      The site looks like one of those sites that people are advertising on Fiverr or in the Warriors For Sale section offering articles and blogroll links on PR 9 pages for a couple of bucks. Freaking scammers.
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        It does pass the info: test, but as most of know, that is not 100% accurate in determining fake PR.
        I rest my case.

        Now lets get back to the orig point. Page Rank is simply not a good factor for link quality. Not at all and Mikes response to the site I showed him proves just that.

        Although, Mike it would be awesome if you made a super long detailed post explaining the whole process you use to determine real pr (including the stuff you listed above).

        Id def read that and subscribe to your blog. I find you have a lot of good info generally to say.
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          Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

          I rest my case.

          Now lets get back to the orig point. Page Rank is simply not a good factor for link quality. Not at all and Mikes response to the site I showed him proves just that.

          Although, Mike it would be awesome if you made a super long detailed post explaining the whole process you use to determine real pr (including the stuff you listed above).

          Id def read that and subscribe to your blog. I find you have a lot of good info generally to say.
          Actually if the PR is real, it is a pretty good metric to use. This one is not real.

          I've seen site's with higher DA's that I wouldn't use either, so using just that by itself, like you suggest in your post, is a really bad idea too.

          That is why I said to use DA, PA, mT, PR, and check the backlinks. They should all match up. If one doesn't, you are not seeing real or accurate metrics. Move on.

          Just like the example you sent. It has a DA of 23, but a PR of 9? That is a clear indicator that it does not have real PR. It has been faked. It is a PR 1 or 2 site at best. Probably a PR 0.
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          • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            Actually if the PR is real, it is a pretty good metric to use. This one is not real.

            I've seen site's with higher DA's that I wouldn't use either, so using just that by itself, like you suggest in your post, is a really bad idea too.

            That is why I said to use DA, PA, mT, PR, and check the backlinks. They should all match up. If one doesn't, you are not seeing real or accurate metrics. Move on.

            Just like the example you sent. It has a DA of 23, but a PR of 9? That is a clear indicator that it does not have real PR. It has been faked. It is a PR 1 or 2 site at best. Probably a PR 0.
            Read back in my posts, i said it was a bad quality page rank but it is real in the fact that the number is pr9. I never said it was valauble though. Infact quite the opposite.
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                Originally Posted by Mikey A Flamerz View Post

                I liked your post. It was very informative for a NEWB like me! Keep writing da good stuff!
                Glad to help. I agree with the other Mike above. There are other metrics that should be considered. I am hoping he will expound on his list of tools and explain what to look for in each.
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              Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

              Read back in my posts, i said it was a bad quality page rank but it is real in the fact that the number is pr9. I never said it was valauble though. Infact quite the opposite.
              You should read this info again...

              PR 9 sites

              Facebook 20.09 million links.
              Yahoo 10.68 million links
              CNN 1.77 million links.
              PrChecker.info 6.65 million links.
              New York Times 1.60 million links.

              gotlinks' PR 9 website... 6 links.


              Ok, there is not such thing as a bad quality PR 9 site with real PR.

              There are fake PR 9 sites and real PR 9 sites, and nothing in between.

              The toolbar is lying to you. It is not a PR 9 site in Google's eyes, and it never was. Someone just did a redirect to a PR 9 site to fool the toolbar and PR checkers. What the toolbar and PR checkers are showing you is actually the PR of the site it was redirected to, not this site's PR.
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              Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

              Read back in my posts, i said it was a bad quality page rank but it is real in the fact that the number is pr9.
              Dude.......I mean DUDE! Pagerank is updated only four times a year in the toolbar. Real PR is what google recalculates constantly. Mike has been trying to tell you that in like three posts and you still don't get it.

              Put down the blog and stop writing, now slowly move away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself or someone else. (no lie people can lose tons of cash by not knowing what they are doing in this area)
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              • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                Dude.......I mean DUDE! Pagerank is updated only four times a year in the toolbar. Real PR is what google recalculates constantly. Mike has been trying to tell you that in like three posts and you still don't get it.

                Put down the blog and stop writing, now slowly move away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself or someone else. (no lie people can lose tons of cash by not knowing what they are doing in this area)
                Can we not just agree Pagerank is not good enough by itself for quality?
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

                  Can we not just agree Pagerank is not good enough by itself for quality?
                  Oh good night :rolleyes:. If you are buying a domain then NOTHING else matters but the links pointing to it.

                  NADA.....ZIP.....NYET....NOTHING.

                  Why? because you can put anything you want on the site - lousy content, great content, relevant content or even AWARD winning content. Therefore you MUST use some metric to measure the strength of links and until Google opens up their algo and shows us all the other metrics there is only one we know for sure - PAGERANK.

                  So yes REAL PR - not just the tool bar PR you keep referring to - IS a determiner of quality of links pointing to a domain you are buying. So a REAL PR9 is EXTREMELY valuable.

                  Short answer therefore is - NO we cannot agree. You are writing about something you just do not know about.
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                  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    Oh good night :rolleyes:. If you are buying a domain then NOTHING else matters but the links pointing to it.

                    NADA.....ZIP.....NYET....NOTHING.

                    Why? because you can put anything you want on the site - lousy content, great content, relevant content or even AWARD winning content. Therefore you MUST use some metric to measure the strength of links and until Google opens up their algo and shows us all the other metrics there is only one we know for sure - PAGERANK.

                    So yes REAL PR - not just the tool bar PR you keep referring to - IS a determiner of quality of links pointing to a domain you are buying. So a REAL PR9 is EXTREMELY valuable.

                    Short answer therefore is - NO we cannot agree. You are writing about something you just do not know about.
                    But you just admitted yourself until we all know. Therefor you don't know either so we can agree to disagree like civil people.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

                      But you just admitted yourself until we all know. Therefor you don't know either so we can agree to disagree like civil people.
                      I just admitted no such thing.. You are making stuff up. I stated flat out what we do know and I'm not going to justify anything that is just plainly wrong under the cliche "we can agree to disagree". You are just plain wrong. Pagerank is still valuable in determining the links coming into a site. I said there are other metrics that Google keeps secret but that in no way states that pagerank which we do know about is not important in determining quality.
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              • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                Dude.......I mean DUDE! Pagerank is updated only four times a year in the toolbar. Real PR is what google recalculates constantly. Mike has been trying to tell you that in like three posts and you still don't get it.

                Put down the blog and stop writing, now slowly move away from the keyboard before you hurt yourself or someone else. (no lie people can lose tons of cash by not knowing what they are doing in this area)
                Hahahaha, i would like sue you for almost making die of laughter
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

    Check it out and leave a comment (free backlink).

    Or post here and let me know.
    Well you said to let you know

    The OP's article is a prime example of why I charge for my course. Anyone can put up nonsense for free. I can't even be bothered to post all the things you have said in this thread that scream to anyone who knows anything that you do not have the first clue what you are talking about.

    Rock on with your PR9
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    And there is a ton of information in this forum that many of us have posted about determining the quality of a domain, checking PR, determining fake PR, etc. No need to post it again.
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    Kind of like gold.. there is Gold and then there is not gold. Never seen any almost gold
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    By the way

    What is the point of linking to your own articles where you have a pop up that blocks people from reading until they subscribe to your list.

    You can't start a thread just to build your list.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      By the way

      What is the point of linking to your own articles where you have a pop up that blocks people from reading until they subscribe to your list.

      You can't start a thread just to build your list.
      It's not to build my list u can click the x button no biggy.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        It's not to build my list u can click the x button no biggy.
        Not in Chrome you can't.
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    Determine by the PR, the authority of the website.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Warock View Post

      Determine by the PR, the authority of the website.

      Do you even read the threads you post in or are you just trying to get another signature link?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Wallace
    whether it is natural, whether it is related and whether you can really get the link juice.
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    So what sections should I add to a part 2?

    Checking for real pr?
    Check way back see how long the sites been the same related content?

    And what else?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    What else should I add to a part 2 besides:

    Page rank (correct methods for checking that mike listed)
    Way back machine for matching content since the beginning

    What else?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    What else should I add to a part 2 besides:

    Page rank (correct methods for checking that mike listed)
    Way back machine for matching content since the beginning

    What else?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    I have completed this second post adding the two I listed above.

    Does anyone have anymore ideas for me to consider?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    As promised here is part 2: How to determine a quality backlink part 2 | People Making Money Online

    Be sure to let me know what you all think!
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    Really? Not suggestions guys?
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  • Profile picture of the author georgescifo
    apart from the page rank of the page from which the link is coming, you should also make sure that the backlink comes from a relevant webpage. There are a lot of guys trying to trick google by getting backlinks from irrelevant sites by paying them and of late Google has caught on this and has been penalizing this effort to a great extend.
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    • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
      Originally Posted by Oswald Joshua View Post

      You summarized it in two sentences. Great IQ. Loved your argument
      Thanks - I don't see why people over complicate things.

      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      As promised here is part 2: How to determine a quality backlink part 2 | People Making Money Online

      Be sure to let me know what you all think!
      I think your making it 10x more complicated than it needs to be.

      I know everyone doesn't agree with just keeping it simple and getting the basics right but it's a great methodology to follow with anything, not just SEO.

      Whether your fixing a broken TV or ranking a website if it starts getting too complicated and overwhelming then you increase the chances of everything going wrong and I always fall back to 'Keep It Simple Stupid'

      SEO is just ensuring your site fits within a certain set of parameters - dont complicate it more than it needs to be.
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

        Thanks - I don't see why people over complicate things.



        I think your making it 10x more complicated than it needs to be.

        I know everyone doesn't agree with just keeping it simple and getting the basics right but it's a great methodology to follow with anything, not just SEO.

        Whether your fixing a broken TV or ranking a website if it starts getting too complicated and overwhelming then you increase the chances of everything going wrong and I always fall back to 'Keep It Simple Stupid'

        SEO is just ensuring your site fits within a certain set of parameters - dont complicate it more than it needs to be.
        Can you explain how I am over complicating it? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author gacott
    LOL, I need to come around here more often, so much fun!

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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by gacott View Post

      LOL, I need to come around here more often, so much fun!

      Garret
      ? Not sure what you mean or how your post was helpful to the thread that's almost a month old?
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      • Profile picture of the author gacott
        Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

        ? Not sure what you mean or how your post was helpful to the thread that's almost a month old?

        It was a personal comment, stating that I enjoyed the thread. Sorry that it didn't meet your definition of being helpful. It is however now VERY easy to see why some of the others seem to have an issue with you.

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        • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
          Originally Posted by gacott View Post

          It was a personal comment, stating that I enjoyed the thread. Sorry that it didn't meet your definition of being helpful. It is however now VERY easy to see why some of the others seem to have an issue with you.

          Garret
          No one has an issue with me? lol Mike and me are cool now. Hes been helping me privately. I got no shame in admitting I am NO expert. Just another guy doing his best.

          I also have seo clients and make money that has nothing to do with warrior so im not afraid of what people may think here or anywhere. All my clients know that I want the best for them.

          I just refunded a client because I did not think the type of links he wanted would help his site. I'm an honest seo unlike a lot of them. I just don't understand why you would bring such an old thread back to the surface for basically no reason accept to fluctuate your post count and get a link on a thread that is sending me personally TONS of traffic.

          Just my 2 cents. IDC at all an I got no beef with you or anyone here (accept blatant spammers but cmon everyone hates those guys).

          Best of luck mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author gacott
    Man, you really can be abrasive. Before you start insinuating that people are spammers and trying to bump their post count you may want to check them out a bit.

    Do you notice my post count? Check out where most of my post are, in the WSO section, where you do't get credit for posts. Wouldn't be much of a spammer OR post builder doing that would I?

    I came to the thread through a search, believe it or not people actually do search for threads on topics that interest them. I had no inclination of when the thread was posted, I simply enjoyed reading it.

    You've got a heck of a way of making people feel welcome, especially for a guy who has no beefs.

    And I could care less how much traffic you get from this thread man, again, I just came here because I was looking and left a post because I enjoyed the thread. I sure as heck didn't expect you to pop in here and start accusing me of stuff.

    Any way, I'm done with you, I have no interest in having a conversation of any type with you.

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  • Profile picture of the author wellm97
    backlink should be of high quality and relevant to your niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by wellm97 View Post

      backlink should be of high quality and relevant to your niche.
      Exactly my friend.
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