What Should Be Monthly Salary of an SEO Manager?

by rafiseo Banned
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Most recently I have opened an SEO wing in my web development firm to diversify my business and earning source. Just wanted to know how much should I pay to my SEO manager? His rolls are..

1- Train link builders and content creators
2- Get orders from clients
3- Plan and develop strategies for traffic generation including complete White Hat SEO.
4- Develop new backlink and traffic generation packages.
5- List building and email marketing.
6- Misc..

Any idea?


Thanks for replies
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    $77,000 a year
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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

      $77,000 a year

      hmm.. almost 6500$ per month. Do you think its fair amount? Someone asked me to pay approximately 7K per month. 84K per year. At source tax gonna be 40%. So he is actually going to get almost 4200 Per month. By the way $77,000 looks pretty fair to me.
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  • Hi,

    Rafi, you didn;'t mentioned from which country you are. If you are from india you should give approx. 50,000 Rs. per month for SEO manager
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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by webdesigndevelopment View Post

      Hi,

      Rafi, you didn;'t mentioned from which country you are. If you are from india you should give approx. 50,000 Rs. per month for SEO manager
      No not from India. Actually Im looking for salary ranges in USA and Australia. 50000Rs means almost 925 USD per month! I dont think any real SEO will work for this compensation. But probably socio economic status of India will make this salary attractive?
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      • Profile picture of the author Khushnoodpk
        Realy Indians, Pakistanies and Bangladeshi seo experts make seo very cheap
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Khushnoodpk View Post

          Realy Indians, Pakistanies and Bangladeshi seo experts make seo very cheap
          He is talking about hiring an actual SEO, not a second rate backlinker.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            He is talking about hiring an actual SEO, not a second rate backlinker.
            Second Rate? You actually think that highly of them, for me 2nd rate is a old fashion mexican sweat shop
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            • Profile picture of the author Hossain
              Originally Posted by Khushnoodpk View Post

              Realy Indians, Pakistanies and Bangladeshi seo experts make seo very cheap

              Cheap is not always good. Specially for SEO. True SEOs are not going to work 500$ monthly. I didnt find any SEO expert(!) in India who is going to neglect 500 USD offer even as SEO Direcotr!


              Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

              Second Rate? You actually think that highly of them, for me 2nd rate is a old fashion mexican sweat shop

              whats wrong? Do you really think there are good SEOs available in India or Pakistan? Let me know if you understand difference between an SEO and a Link Builder (who probably do forum posting and blog commenting?)?
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              • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
                Originally Posted by Hossain View Post

                whats wrong? Do you really think there are good SEOs available in India or Pakistan? Let me know if you understand difference between an SEO and a Link Builder (who probably do forum posting and blog commenting?)?
                You are taking this thread way to seriously.. *laughs*

                How about I let you know when I want something from McDonald's drive thru?
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                • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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                  Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

                  You are taking this thread way to seriously.. *laughs*

                  How about I let you know when I want something from McDonald's drive thru?

                  hmmm smelling of another percussion!! Guys I just wanted to know your opinion to get an idea. Dont start like 3rd world war. lolz :p
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                  • Profile picture of the author Hossain
                    Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

                    hmmm smelling of another percussion!! Guys I just wanted to know your opinion to get an idea. Dont start like 3rd world war. lolz :p

                    Lol! Ok I am going to keep me mute on that issue. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author GFI
    I don't know exactly amount but If I guess so almost 60k per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warock
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    Where can I find a SEO job in singapore?
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    • Profile picture of the author pinakin
      Originally Posted by Warock View Post

      Where can I find a SEO job in singapore?
      You can try freelancing sites and microjob sites
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  • Profile picture of the author 195SEO
    I currently manage and SEO company and i earn approximately 55k per year. So anything in the regions of that i would say was fair. Depending on the size of the company.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warock
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    Where ... I want to find a SEO job....
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    • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
      Originally Posted by Warock View Post

      Where ... I want to find a SEO job....
      You have one huge problem... as a SEO Manager, you need to be the one answering questions not asking them all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Abbeysmith
    If manager have all SEO strong knowledge base and he is update all latest google (panda update, etc) effect on the ranking, than he deserve good salary minimum 750$ per months.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimseo
    In North America , That position should get somewhere between 70k to 90k
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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by kimseo View Post

      In North America , That position should get somewhere between 70k to 90k


      I see. Thanks for reply.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        So, if you make 5K a year, and spend 70K a year on SEO.....

        I can't even believe the responses here.

        The only one that can answer this question is you. How
        much more money do you expect to make? If you pay
        $1000 a month, and get $500 back, you are losing $500
        a month....

        Sure, there are no guarantees, but any SEO expert worth
        hiring will have parameters to gauge success.

        You cannot take on an employee "just because." They
        have to be worth something to the bottom line. Only you
        can come up with a figure.

        I mean seriously. If your company nets $50,000 a year, why
        would you pay $70,000? If your company nets a mil, you
        might want to pay that. Only you know your targeted ROI.


        I'd probably take on a person who works as a percent of
        increased income. Give them a 6 month trial or something.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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          Hey Paul, I personally think 6k/month is ok for an IM expert only when I would be able to earn 2-3k per month from my SEO department. The only reason why I started the thread is I just wanted to know a fair compensation for that guy. There are numerous so called SEOs. So a real SEO would ask for handsome salary indeed. Can you let me know if I am right or wrong with my calculation?

          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post


          I'd probably take on a person who works as a percent of
          increased income. Give them a 6 month trial or something.

          Paul
          Yes I am thinking about this. Thanks for your recommendation.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by Warock View Post

            Where ... I want to find a SEO job....
            You have to know how to perform SEO before you can get a job doing SEO.


            Originally Posted by kimseo View Post

            In North America , That position should get somewhere between 70k to 90k
            I would say in most cases, that is probably a pretty fair assessment, assuming there is also some kind of discretionary budget they access to for expenses which could be anything from directory listings, to content writing, to buying new domains for projects. If they are expected to pay for all of that out of pocket, then that is a decent wage for a few clients. Anything more than a few clients, and they'll be losing money.

            And also, what Yukon said above.
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        • Profile picture of the author kimseo
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          So, if you make 5K a year, and spend 70K a year on SEO.....

          I can't even believe the responses here.

          The only one that can answer this question is you. How
          much more money do you expect to make? If you pay
          $1000 a month, and get $500 back, you are losing $500
          a month....

          Sure, there are no guarantees, but any SEO expert worth
          hiring will have parameters to gauge success.

          You cannot take on an employee "just because." They
          have to be worth something to the bottom line. Only you
          can come up with a figure.

          I mean seriously. If your company nets $50,000 a year, why
          would you pay $70,000? If your company nets a mil, you
          might want to pay that. Only you know your targeted ROI.


          I'd probably take on a person who works as a percent of
          increased income. Give them a 6 month trial or something.

          Paul
          Sorry to say but if one's company is making $50,000 a year. He/She should not hire any employee (atleast not fulltime).

          what i said before (70k to 90k) was for a medium size company with decent turnover
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

    Most recently I have opened an SEO wing in my web development firm to diversify my business and earning source. Just wanted to know how much should I pay to my SEO manager? His rolls are..

    1- Train link builders and content creators
    2- Get orders from clients
    3- Plan and develop strategies for traffic generation including complete White Hat SEO.
    4- Develop new backlink and traffic generation packages.
    5- List building and email marketing.
    6- Misc..

    Any idea?


    Thanks for replies


    Number 2 is a bad idea:
    2- Get orders from clients
    Keep in mind, you don't want that employee to handle 100% of the SEO business, otherwise he'll soon realize he can do without you, since he's generating clients.

    You need a sales guy & an SEO guy, don't let 1 guy do both jobs, otherwise your employee turn over rate will be huge.
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    • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Number 2 is a bad idea:


      Keep in mind, you don't want that employee to handle 100% of the SEO business, otherwise he'll soon realize he can do without you, since he's generating clients.

      You need a sales guy & an SEO guy, don't let 1 guy do both jobs, otherwise your employee turn over rate will be huge.

      Yeah I was thinking of it. So I am going to hire a marketing guy on commission basis. Otherwise actually my SEO Manager is going to start a new fir within 2013.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

        Yeah I was thinking of it. So I am going to hire a marketing guy on commission basis. Otherwise actually my SEO Manager is going to start a new fir within 2013.
        Also, most SEO's don't know squat about sales. They are awful salespeople. In fact, most SEO's I have met, you would never, ever want even talking to a client or prospect.
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        • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Also, most SEO's don't know squat about sales. They are awful salespeople. In fact, most SEO's I have met, you would never, ever want even talking to a client or prospect.

          Hmm... I should hire a guy who knows how to collect orders and communicate with clients but the guy shouldn't have any clue on SEO strategies. On the other hand SEO manager will just process orders collected by us.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

            Hmm... I should hire a guy who knows how to collect orders and communicate with clients but the guy shouldn't have any clue on SEO strategies. On the other hand SEO manager will just process orders collected by us.
            Ideally you would like to have an SEO with decent people skills to be able to communicate to clients, and a salesperson with a little knowledge of SEO, or at least how to explain what SEO is and why a client needs it.
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    • Profile picture of the author MarcCPASAW
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Number 2 is a bad idea:


      Keep in mind, you don't want that employee to handle 100% of the SEO business, otherwise he'll soon realize he can do without you, since he's generating clients.

      You need a sales guy & an SEO guy, don't let 1 guy do both jobs, otherwise your employee turn over rate will be huge.
      And so will your client turnover as the SEO will take the clients with him as he leaves.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hossain
    Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

    Most recently I have opened an SEO wing in my web development firm to diversify my business and earning source. Just wanted to know how much should I pay to my SEO manager? His rolls are..

    1- Train link builders and content creators
    2- Get orders from clients
    3- Plan and develop strategies for traffic generation including complete White Hat SEO.
    4- Develop new backlink and traffic generation packages.
    5- List building and email marketing.
    6- Misc..

    Any idea?


    Thanks for replies

    I did a quick google search and found it.

    http://www.searchenginejournal.com/w...obs-Guide1.png

    Hope that will give you an overview on how much you can/might/should offer..
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  • Profile picture of the author 102drive
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    For me.. if I was running this business.
    Sales/Client Interaction: He or She would need to have a smooth telephone voice and if I planned on doing business in the USA needs to have english as a first language. Must be internet savvy too, I don't care if they can do it but they must be able to speak it.

    SEO Manager: Runs the SEO building show and I would limit the interaction between this person and clients. Mostly because I want to focus on the SEO skills and less concerned about social skills but also if this person becomes to much of a keyhole in your business what are you going to do if they leave and take it with him or her?

    The besides the business security this offers you, it additionally provides you with the ability to sell and do SEO at the sametime.. not sell or SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dustin Blevins
    I agree with everyone else on the business part of it. Your seo guy does not need to be your sales guy. The business I run has a similar aspect. If I were to let the workers do the sales as well they would soon start to think that they could go off and do it on their own.

    They may or may not be able to really do it, but if I had them working sales / client interaction as well, I would have a horrible turn over rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    By the way, you should have some sort of non-compete clause with them too so that if they ever leave, they cannot take your clients with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      I'd probably take on a person who works as a percent of
      increased income. Give them a 6 month trial or something.
      Good luck hiring someone in the real world on that promise with that job description. They aren't there to generate income; they're there to perform SEO. I can't imagine someone wanting their salary based on how someone else in the company performs.

      Not every role in a company directly generates revenue. There are many roles which are needed to get the job done.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You need a sales guy & an SEO guy, don't let 1 guy do both jobs, otherwise your employee turn over rate will be huge.
      I agree with that to some degree. The SEO guy can help train the sales go to learn what SEO can offer a potential client but I think the roles are too specific.

      Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

      Yeah I was thinking of it. So I am going to hire a marketing guy on commission basis. Otherwise actually my SEO Manager is going to start a new fir within 2013.
      Create a work culture where your employees want to work and you want have an issue with them running off. Not everyone is cut-out for running their own business. If they are doing a great job then reward them.

      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Also, most SEO's don't know squat about sales. They are awful salespeople. In fact, most SEO's I have met, you would never, ever want even talking to a client or prospect.
      Offsite whitehat SEO is largely based on marketing so I'd avoid hiring someone who doesn't like talking to people.
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