by karuzo
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Hello,
This is my second posting in the forum since I started venturing with Internet Marketing less than a month ago. So newbie here.
I'm following Pat Flynn's building a niche site I'm sure is known to many by now, and have few questions:
- I assume the strategy he uses still applies today? Asking this since his strategy is 2 years old. I assume the answer is yes.
- I understand the concept of anchor sites that link directly to the domain name and then massive article submission used to link to anchor sites. What I want to know is that am I to create the anchor sites and massive article submission for EACH article on my site?
- Can I use the same pen name for all articles?
- Can an anchor site (for each and seo purposes) host several of the articles, or does that defeat the purpose? Reason I'm asking is that if I am to create an anchor site for each of my articles, I need many emails to sign up with lets say blogger?

Hope this makes sense and hope that my questions indicate my proper understanding of what needs to be accomplished... Any other tips would be great.

Thanks,

Doron
#backlinking #strategy
  • Profile picture of the author gabibeowulf
    Unfortunately I have no idea what a "anchor site" is or the Pat Flynn's strategy.

    Massive article submission? Erm.. no. Since the latest Penguin update, automated, massive link campaigns will hurt your site rankings. Before, if they didn't like the links they kinda didn't count them and favored the good links you had. But now, if you have more bad links than good ones, your site will never rank and if do manage to spam it on the first page, it will not stick.

    Articles do work ... if you're writing stellar content, publish them on established websites and you're putting quality over quantity.

    - Gabriel
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    • Profile picture of the author karuzo
      Originally Posted by gabibeowulf View Post

      Unfortunately I have no idea what a "anchor site" is or the Pat Flynn's strategy.

      Massive article submission? Erm.. no. Since the latest Penguin update, automated, massive link campaigns will hurt your site rankings. Before, if they didn't like the links they kinda didn't count them and favored the good links you had. But now, if you have more bad links than good ones, your site will never rank and if do manage to spam it on the first page, it will not stick.

      Articles do work ... if you're writing stellar content, publish them on established websites and you're putting quality over quantity.

      - Gabriel
      Thank you Gabriel - can you please recommend a back linking strategy that works for ranking? I'm sure with niche sites, you don't just sit and write numerous quality articles if you intend on coming up with quite of few of such sites... or do you?

      Thanks,

      Doron
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  • Profile picture of the author gabibeowulf
    Having an army of small 3-4 pages niche websites is not a viable strategy anymore. Research google penguin and how it affected people who were into the "hundreds of websites" business. Most of them were lucky to have 20-30% of the traffic and earnings they used to have.

    If you want to this long term, you need an authority website. You need to plan content creation and backlinks acquisition. You have to be careful and disregard spammy activities, that will be punished severely by Google updates.

    Last year you might have gotten away with a lot of things, but the SEO landscape has changed drastically and you'd only be wasting your time and money if you didn't adapt.

    - Gabriel
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    • Profile picture of the author karuzo
      Originally Posted by gabibeowulf View Post

      Having an army of small 3-4 pages niche websites is not a viable strategy anymore. Research google penguin and how it affected people who were into the "hundreds of websites" business. Most of them were lucky to have 20-30% of the traffic and earnings they used to have.

      If you want to this long term, you need an authority website. You need to plan content creation and backlinks acquisition. You have to be careful and disregard spammy activities, that will be punished severely by Google updates.

      Last year you might have gotten away with a lot of things, but the SEO landscape has changed drastically and you'd only be wasting your time and money if you didn't adapt.

      - Gabriel
      Hi Gabriel - thanks for the info. This is definitely a bummer. If this is the case and I don't mean to doubt you, then I am highly disappointed in the marketing guru's out there that still lead you into believing this is a possible way to go. Of course, they keep making money passively from this. I hear of google panda update and will research it. However, in that case Unique Article Wizard is falsely leasing you to believe their software is still working with the panda update, meaning the technique of utilizing the back linking strategy still works.

      Thanks,

      Doron
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      • Profile picture of the author Boricua
        I assume the strategy he uses still applies today? Asking this since his strategy is 2 years old.
        Email him for an update, he must have one. If not, don't bother if the seo strategy pitched is 2 years old.

        Think relevance niche link, preferably do-follow and with a good established link strength/confirmed page rank. Massive submissions no longer work, it's where you get them, how relevant they are to your site and the submission process use. Pen names don't matter as long as the articles are totally different from one another. Keep reading and the sticky notes on each forum secgtion are quite helpful.
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        • Profile picture of the author karuzo
          Originally Posted by Boricua View Post

          Email him for an update, he must have one. If not, don't bother if the seo strategy pitched is 2 years old.

          Think relevance niche link, preferably do-follow and with a good established link strength/confirmed page rank. Massive submissions no longer work, it's where you get them, how relevant they are to your site and the submission process use. Pen names don't matter as long as the articles are totally different from one another. Keep reading and the sticky notes on each forum secgtion are quite helpful.
          Thanks for replying. I have emailed him when I started and understood that strategies he was discussing still apply today. I don;t want to do him any dis-justice. I think he is a great guy.
          Is it possible to ask here is there any strategy that applies today if you want to do a niche site? There has to be something beside of an authoritative site?

          Thanks,

          Doron
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          • Profile picture of the author Boricua
            Originally Posted by karuzo View Post

            Thanks for replying. I have emailed him when I started and understood that strategies he was discussing still apply today. I don;t want to do him any dis-justice. I think he is a great guy.
            Is it possible to ask here is there any strategy that applies today if you want to do a niche site? There has to be something beside of an authoritative site?

            Thanks,

            Doron
            Sure, pleasure. My intuition tells me you're new here and pretty much starting on SEO..you'll find plenty of 1,2,3 "do this and do that" in the "search" box on your upper corner and keep asking questions here to not only know but understand SEO. The only real way you'll know is applying the techniques/methods you find working and the ones you can afford based on your time and funding.

            I can relate and tell you I started here with many of the same questions as you, enjoy the ride! Watch out with the "Monster" drinks
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            • Profile picture of the author karuzo
              Originally Posted by Boricua View Post

              Sure, pleasure. My intuition tells me you're new here and pretty much starting on SEO..you'll find plenty of 1,2,3 "do this and do that" in the "search" box on your upper corner and keep asking questions here to not only know but understand SEO. The only real way you'll know is applying the techniques/methods you find working and the ones you can afford based on your time and funding.

              I can relate and tell you I started here with many of the same questions as you, enjoy the ride! Watch out with the "Monster" drinks
              Thanks - new indeed. I already researched about SEO and using market samurai that I purchased. I'll search in the forum for more info. Just a bummer knowing now I should not pursue the niche market the way I planned on. I already started an authoritative site that I mean to pursue. At least I didn't spend money on spinners and such software...

              Thanks,

              Doron
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  • Profile picture of the author kimseo
    Gist of any link building strategy should be "quality and only quality"
    In order to make it effective and efficient, Consider following 3 link building matrics (Ranked based on importance)
    1. PR of the page
    2. Relevancy of the page
    3. Age of the page
    and also keep it as natural as possible
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