AM CONFUSED - HOW MY FRIEND RANKED A 3MONTHS OLD SITE AND GETTING LOTS OF HITS DAILY

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I have read a lot of things i have read here but from what my friend said, the old method still rocks!

Here is how

- she has 5-8 articles on each site
- rewrite article using a quality spinner, well spun that it does not look like a spun article
- submit the articles to about 25-25 pr 4-9 article directories
- social bookmark the article
- get youtube videos and then upload on the site
- submit to tumblr,squidoo,digg
- in three months all the sites is getting 2k hits and made $400 last month. after an additional month will flip for $3000 plus
- few signature forum backlinks and post comment on relevant niche or forums.


HERE IS MY QUESTION.

Is it that this old fashioned way of doing linkbuilding manually still works. September 28-30 google update came and my friend survive it all and was affected not up to 5%. Do you still believe this old method of getting traffic?

Everything here is what my friend did, it works but i just want to read more from my fellow warriors. thanks
#3months #confused #daily #friend #hits #lots #ranked #site
  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Well, guess it all depends on what kind of niche/keywords he/she is targetting, mostly you won't rank much with just a few video's, some article submissions, bookmarks and web2.0's.
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    • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Well, guess it all depends on what kind of niche/keywords he/she is targetting, mostly you won't rank much with just a few video's, some article submissions, bookmarks and web2.0's.
      Thanks for the reply. So do you still believe in authority sites with many content and social boomarking like wolfmmiii method? Please can you give a breakdown of a good method on how to get traffic because am not only focusing on ranking my site. thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

        Thanks for the reply. So do you still believe in authority sites with many content and social boomarking like wolfmmiii method? Please can you give a breakdown of a good method on how to get traffic because am not only focusing on ranking my site. thanks
        What Wolfmiii isn't telling you in his eBook is that he is also using high PR domains to pass on juice to rank well, just some social bookmarking won't do the job unless you are after keywords that really no one is after, and well such kw's don't bring in the cash.

        The thing is that as soon as some large sites add the product to their site they will outrank you immidiatly for those brand + product ID, cause yes they do have the authority and those automated bookmarks aren't worth shit to rank anything, you should be happy if you get stuff indexed with it.

        I don't know much about other traffic generation things, I only do SEO.
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        • Profile picture of the author LAF Riot
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          What Wolfmiii isn't telling you in his eBook is that he is also using high PR domains to pass on juice to rank well, just some social bookmarking won't do the job unless you are after keywords that really no one is after, and well such kw's don't bring in the cash.

          How do you know wolfmmii is using high PR domains to rank as well and not talking about this in his ebooks?
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          • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
            Originally Posted by LAF Riot View Post

            How do you know wolfmmii is using high PR domains to rank as well and not talking about this in his ebooks?
            I have read wolfmmii's ebook and he stated nothing about high pagerank sites or domains. And also I have some inbox message from other warriors doing the same thing and getting traffic am making sales via amazon. The trick is ranking for long tail keywords and not the main phrase. As well as constant post or update of content with time gives your site authority and in time you can rank a newly posted article or product review in a week or less when your site has gained the same authority in the eyes of google. I think all these method works. What matters is consistency be it adsense or amazon site. Only social bookmarking have proven tob work for them I believe it will do the same. I have posted articles for 20-25 days with no result but yet I am seeing some keywords coming cloes to top 100 it means am getting there within 60days of constant content I guarantee I would have made my first sale from amazona dn rank for long tail keywords as well. Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by LAF Riot View Post

            How do you know wolfmmii is using high PR domains to rank as well and not talking about this in his ebooks?
            Sorry, apparently I am not allowed to answer that question, LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

        Thanks for the reply. So do you still believe in authority sites with many content and social boomarking like wolfmmiii method?
        I have MANY clients doing very well with my strategies and NO, none of them use any high-PR domains/backlinks as that is not something I teach. That said, I'm sure it can't hurt.
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        • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          I have MANY clients doing very well with my strategies and NO, none of them use any high-PR domains/backlinks as that is not something I teach. That said, I'm sure it can't hurt.
          Thanks for the reply wolfmmiii. I actually like your strategy but most of the new product has little searches on google keyword tool. And how can one get result without much searches on GKT? Well i believe in your method anyday anytime because i have been in contact with lots of warriors following the things you do. So i have no problem doing the same as well.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

            most of the new product has little searches on google keyword tool. And how can one get result without much searches on GKT?
            I don't even look at the tool because it's often wildly inaccurate.

            Also, remember something folks, just because "samsung x4300 review" gets 3 searches per month doesn't mean that's all the traffic you'll see. There are literally hundreds of variations that you will often rank for.

            Right now, one of my sites is seeing upwards of 50 visitors per day from just ONE product review that I have posted. When I look at the target term in the keyword tool, it shows very few searches per month. I'm getting tons of traffic from several different variations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Falzone
    Yes, of course! It has worked for me as well as with lots of friends of mine!
    Obliviously if you want to make the backlinks process as more automatic as possible you need to invest some money into some autonomation SEO tools but as long as it bring results, it works as well!
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    • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
      Originally Posted by Zack93 View Post

      Yes, of course! It has worked for me as well as with lots of friends of mine!
      Obliviously if you want to make the backlinks process as more automatic as possible you need to invest some money into some autonomation SEO tools but as long as it bring results, it works as well!
      Thanks zack for your response.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoldusta
    the best is to follow exact steps you friend followed i you really want the same results
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    • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
      Originally Posted by zoldusta View Post

      the best is to follow exact steps you friend followed i you really want the same results
      thanks a lot for your response.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cosmit
      Originally Posted by zoldusta View Post

      the best is to follow exact steps you friend followed i you really want the same results
      The best is not follow nobody's steps and think of your own strategy by getting ideas from here and other places. Using any type of "mass" automated software like SEnuke or comment spamming is easily detectable by google and will surely hurt you, now or later.

      The reason those "old school" methods work is because they never stopped working. In fact, manually building links is always the highest quality. You could ask for links from few sites in the neighborhood and if they check out your site and see it's legit, they will give you that link - and you will outrank anyone with 10,000 spammy backlinks.

      The sad truth is, masses follow what's "working now". The people who are making the REAL money are the ones offering tools, services, and software. Eventually, google slaps everyone who used those tools and they drop in ranks - but those offering services and software end up winning either way.
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      • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
        Originally Posted by Cosmit View Post

        The best is not follow nobody's steps and think of your own strategy by getting ideas from here and other places. Using any type of "mass" automated software like SEnuke or comment spamming is easily detectable by google and will surely hurt you, now or later.

        The reason those "old school" methods work is because they never stopped working. In fact, manually building links is always the highest quality. You could ask for links from few sites in the neighborhood and if they check out your site and see it's legit, they will give you that link - and you will outrank anyone with 10,000 spammy backlinks.

        The sad truth is, masses follow what's "working now". The people who are making the REAL money are the ones offering tools, services, and software. Eventually, google slaps everyone who used those tools and they drop in ranks - but those offering services and software end up winning either way.
        well said mate. I think its great if i twist the method and find out what works manually using my own techniques and ideas that i gathered on this forum. thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
        Originally Posted by Cosmit View Post

        The best is not follow nobody's steps and think of your own strategy by getting ideas from here and other places.
        Best thing I've read all day. Don't copy someone's plan step by step, get an idea of what works and then add your own twist to it.

        I've always felt that those selling WSOs leave some of the most important information out - the information you have to discover by yourself through trial and error.
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      • Profile picture of the author ampeculiar
        Originally Posted by Cosmit View Post

        The best is not follow nobody's steps and think of your own strategy by getting ideas from here and other places. Using any type of "mass" automated software like SEnuke or comment spamming is easily detectable by google and will surely hurt you, now or later.

        The reason those "old school" methods work is because they never stopped working. In fact, manually building links is always the highest quality. You could ask for links from few sites in the neighborhood and if they check out your site and see it's legit, they will give you that link - and you will outrank anyone with 10,000 spammy backlinks.

        The sad truth is, masses follow what's "working now". The people who are making the REAL money are the ones offering tools, services, and software. Eventually, google slaps everyone who used those tools and they drop in ranks - but those offering services and software end up winning either way.
        WOw!...well said....knowledge is power!
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by zoldusta View Post

      the best is to follow exact steps you friend followed i you really want the same results
      That's complete baloney. There is no guarantee in life and websites.

      People can rank a site the first day, little content.

      There's a whole lot we don't know. All this stuff is pure
      speculation.

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      • Profile picture of the author aizaku
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        That's complete baloney. There is no guarantee in life and websites.

        People can rank a site the first day, little content.

        There's a whole lot we don't know. All this stuff is pure
        speculation.

        Paul
        I second this

        However, there are many SEO ranking tidbits google and matt cutts have shared with us via videos and guidelines.

        that being said, ppl can profit online if they follow basic SEO principles and keep to their goals and strategies:

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  • Profile picture of the author imuj
    it looks you want to rank you thread high that why you are post new post after every reply
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  • Profile picture of the author Venus Brown
    Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post


    HERE IS MY QUESTION.

    Is it that this old fashioned way of doing linkbuilding manually still works.
    Yeah... Or I would rather say that manually build links are more trustworthy in search engine's eye. Rank achieved via tools doesn't last long.
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  • Profile picture of the author wellm97
    Google like natural linking so manual linkbuilding is best
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I can though - I don't.

    I don't need to get creative when I'm targeting a product that shows a first page full of PR0 and NA pages (with weak backlinks) along with "maybe" 30,000 total results when doing a broad search.

    That said, I'm certain higher PR domains would help. However, I don't use them.
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  • Profile picture of the author xenium11
    OLD IS GOLD...............

    It though sounds old fashioned............... its the best way to get higher SEO.
    You really do get real and quality visitor by this method.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I was having fun reading till you said SPINNING OMFG!, then I had to click away..... I mean seriously. Have people STILL not learn from the google slaps, craps, penguins, giraffee, monkey nuts......or whatever update they release next.

    meh! I am just wasting my breath!
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