$100 a day in Adsense in 30 days?

by jiht76
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I created this post inspired by Steve Crooks' $100 a day in adsense from 1 blog in 3 months.

So, I'll spice it up the challenge and I decided to show you how I will rise up my adsense earning to $100 a day using a completely different method from the one Steve shows.

I don't like to wait 3 months to make that amount of money so I research for an alternative way and in the last days my adsense earnings have rised from 2 - 3 dollars a day to 12 - 20 with very little traffic.

It didn't take too much effort and I have to create a lot less content than the 60 articles Steve created for his challenge.

I do make money online, however Adsense it's not my primary way of making money (obviously) but I want it to be one of the main sources, so this will push me to get it moving fast.

So, this are my rules for this challenge

- The deadline will be 30 days from now... that's May 4
- My goal is to generate $100 a day with one or more sites
- I will NOT use a blog
- I will NOT hire anybody to create content or design my site.
- I'll invest in Adwords to get traffic (I'm a Google Advertising Professional
so this will be my secret tool, I'll share this secrets too)
- Finally... if anyone call me "guru" I'll insult his/her mother

After the 30 days this are the results I will show.

- The domain(s) of the site or sites I'll create
- The average of my adsense earnings and adwords investings
- The domains of the tools I'll use
- Anything else you would like to know that is legal for me to show.

I'll have a blog to post all the small details about
this challenge and I'll share that also.

Ok that's it.

In the next post I'll explain the first part of this method and start the work.

See you soon.


J.I. Hernandez

P.D. - Sorry for the spelling and grammar. I'll try to get it better.
#adsense #adwords #ppc #ppc campaign building
  • Profile picture of the author traceye
    Originally Posted by jiht76 View Post

    So, this are my rules for this challenge

    - The deadline will be 30 days from now... that's May 4
    - My goal is to generate $100 a day with one or more sites
    - I will NOT use a blog
    - I will NOT hire anybody to create content or design my site.
    - I'll invest in Adwords to get traffic (I'm a Google Advertising Professional
    so this will be my secret tool, I'll share this secrets too)
    - Finally... if anyone call me "guru" I'll insult his/her mother

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    Hi jiht76,

    I thought it was against the Adsense TOS to use Adwords to get traffic to a site whose primary monetisation was Adsense?

    Or is this just a rumour?

    t
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    • Profile picture of the author jiht76
      Originally Posted by traceye View Post

      Hi jiht76,

      I thought it was against the Adsense TOS to use Adwords to get traffic to a site whose primary monetisation was Adsense?

      Or is this just a rumour?
      Even if that's right. It will not be a problem with this method.
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      • Profile picture of the author mistertortoise
        Looks like many warriors have been inspired by Steve's adsense adventures. I've set myself the goal of getting to 50$ a day by 1st July so taking it a bit slower than you.

        Will be very interested to see how you get on and hopefully i'll pick up a few tricks from you.

        Good luck.
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        • Profile picture of the author otakupahp
          Hey, that's cool

          I'm trying my own Adsense winning strategy with a hobbie I really like.

          I will be tuned to see the results.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Google AdSense disabling arbitrage publisher accounts as of June 1st | JenSense

        That is why some think using arbitrage is not acceptable. Many google adsense accounts were closed. The publishers were paid but the message from google was clear at the time.

        Maybe it's changed or publishers have a way around it - don't know.

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  • Profile picture of the author TechBlog
    - I will NOT use a blog
    - I will NOT hire anybody to create content or design my site...

    Well good luck to you !!! hope u do good and let us know about your success guide
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    THE 'LIST TO ADSENSE' METHOD

    Ok let's continue on this challenge.

    First, I'll have to say that the method I plan to use is derived from
    the classic email marketing method which I have for my online stores.

    It works something like this.

    - Send targeted traffic to your site via Adwords
    - When a visitor get to your site your focus is to get him on an opt-in mailing list, normally via a squeeze page or a hover ad.
    - Later you can send useful information via autoresponders or broadcast emails.
    - The subscriber finally make the order (in this case, click an ad on your site).

    I like this method because it gets the best long therm results and your are building a real asset for your site/business: a database of users that you can contact anytime you want, so you can make money not just in adsense but also in any other ways you would like to try.

    There is a critical factor: Convertions

    As I'll be using adwords I'll have to think in more than one type of convertion.

    - First, my visitors via Adwords (new visits)
    - Then my subscribers (leads)

    This convertions cost money, so my first mission is to create a great adwords campaign that send a lot of visitors for a low cpc and a great squeeze page the attract the most leads possible.

    Why not sending visitors directly to an adsense page?

    - First, Google don't like this.
    - Second, the 'regular convertion' in an adsense page is about 10% or less. A normal squeeze page can have 12% to 15% easily, a great one about 20% or 30%, sometimes even more.

    Later on I'll have other convertions to think about:

    - Subscriber that read my emails and visit my 'adsense pages' (old visitor)
    - and finally the clicks on the adsense ads (clicks)

    This convertions are free, as sending an email/autoresponder have virtually no cost. However this process is were the money come from so I do have to create great emails and good 'adsense pages'

    Also, as the subscribers stay on my list for more than one email I can get more and more profit over time.

    I'm convinced that this method works in any niche as long as you understand your numbers and your market.

    IMPORTANT: I'll be risking money in Adwords, I'm a Google Advertising Professional and I'll use advanced methods to create campaigns. If you plan to use Adwords please wait until I post the tactics and tools I'll use.

    So, if I'll have to define the 'secret formula' for this method it would be like this

    Lead Repeated Clicks - Cost per Lead = Profit


    Or in plain english, I'll pay for a lead once... but I can get a lot of clicks from him/her later on.

    Also, I can get visitors faster so I'll have to wait less time to see results.

    However, you can start losing money at first, as the first clicks could not be enough to pay for the lead cost.

    I'll post how to face this next.
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    MARKET RESEARCH

    Ok, let's continue.

    For my market research I used Google Keyword Tool and a bunch of domains I haven't used that could work for this 'List to Adsense' Method

    I have about 20 domains, some in English others in Spanish.

    NOTE: I know the best would have been start from the market and buy the domain later but I wanted to use what I already have.

    First I searched for the main keyword in each domain.

    I use Google Docs and created a table takings notes of:

    - Domain
    - Main Keyword
    - Max. CPC Google show for this keyword
    - Monthly searches

    With this I calculated/estimate
    - Earnings per Adsense Click (20% of the max cpc)
    - Adsense CTR of 10% (How many people see the ads and click)
    - 100 visitors a day with a 20% convertions to leads
    - I will pay no more than 10 cents per visitor
    - My invest in adwords after 15-30-60 days
    - My earnings in adsense after 15-30-60 days
    - My profits

    My Conclusion: I'll go for the more expensive high searched English keywords first as they have bigger earnings potential.

    IMPORTANT: This will work only if I succeed in bringing cheap-good converting visitors with adwords otherwise I couldn't even break even. I normally do this with the tools I use so I don't see any problem here.

    My research shows that I could have around 70 cents to 1,15 per click with my domains so I'll need around 100-120 clicks a day to reach my goal.

    If 10% of my visitors clicks on the ads I would need 1200 daily visit from subscribers.

    My actual autoresponders have around 10% to 60% responses so I'll need to reach 2000 to 10000 subscribers to get the visits I need.

    If I want to do this in less than 30 days I'll have to get more than 100 subscribers daily.

    With a 20% convertions from a squeeze page to get subscribers I'll need about 500 visitors a day.

    If I pay up to 10 cents per visitor I'll have to spend 50 daily.

    My numbers show that I'll be making profits after the 15th day so I'll have to invest $750, which I really pay at the end of the month.

    I everything goes right I'll be making about $700 the first month and over $1000 in the second month.

    Truth to be told... this doesn't seem easy but it's not impossible either.

    (Anyway if adsense is insufficient to make money I'll use another way to profit from my list, but I'll let you know if this is the case)

    I also see that a small increasing in any convertion have an amazing impact on profits, so after getting cheap visitors this will be my main focus.

    To keep my risk low I'll try to get about 50 to 100 daily visits first then increase my convertions in all levels and later pump in as many visits as I can.

    BOY have I learned a lot with this research!! I hope you too.

    See you soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Sending Adwords traffic to a site designed for Adsense is a strict no-no and anybody doing this will be banned by Google.

    You say that you are not going to be doing this, though I didn't fully understand how, but I wanted to make sure that people copying you understood the risks involved in this strategy.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      Sending Adwords traffic to a site designed for Adsense is a strict no-no and anybody doing this will be banned by Google.

      You say that you are not going to be doing this, though I didn't fully understand how, but I wanted to make sure that people copying you understood the risks involved in this strategy.

      Pearson
      True, if your sequence is Adwords to Adsense page, which is arbitrage... buy cheap adwords leading to high value adsense.

      As I read it the OP intends to go Adwords - Opt-in sqeeze - emailsmarket - Adsense page. Not sure if the Google rules against arbitrage apply here.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
        I like the title of this thread, I am sure I have seen it somewhere before? Anyway, I don't think PPC to optin page is the best tactic for making Adsense income for a few reasons.

        1. It is far better to use your hard earned optins for something more. List building in a niche is a fantastic marketing tactic on its own and using PPC is just one way to start building one although can be expensive for the unwary.

        2. Sending the same visitors over and over to your adsense pages is not really a good idea, it could seriously threaten your adsense account.

        3. I seriously doubt that recycling the same visitors will lead to sales after they click on your adsense ads. This will surely mean your Adsense account will be prone to smart pricing by google.
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        • Profile picture of the author traceye
          Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

          2. Sending the same visitors over and over to your adsense pages is not really a good idea, it could seriously threaten your adsense account.

          3. I seriously doubt that recycling the same visitors will lead to sales after they click on your adsense ads. This will surely mean your Adsense account will be prone to smart pricing by google.
          I agree. And it's well known that social traffic (i.e. blog readers) don't click ads. Search engine traffic clicks ads. So if you really want to make money with adsense I'd personally be focussing more on seo.

          This strategy is a great one for affiliate marketing, but I don't think it will work with adsense.

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          • Profile picture of the author jiht76
            Originally Posted by traceye View Post

            I agree. And it's well known that social traffic (i.e. blog readers) don't click ads. Search engine traffic clicks ads. So if you really want to make money with adsense I'd personally be focussing more on seo.
            I do like this comment. I'll think about this when I'll built my adwords campaign

            Originally Posted by traceye View Post

            This strategy is a great one for affiliate marketing, but I don't think it will work with adsense.
            Using this method on my actual sites my income is about:

            Over 90% from selling
            Around 5-7% from adsense
            Around 1-3% as an affiliate

            I like to focus on adsense now because I think it's easier to get a click than an affiliate sale, at least in my experience.

            However If I see the chance I'll promote affiliate products to the list, but I will not do that as part of this challenge.

            Please keep posting.
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        • Profile picture of the author remodeler
          Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

          I like the title of this thread, I am sure I have seen it somewhere before? Anyway, I don't think PPC to optin page is the best tactic for making Adsense income for a few reasons.
          If I'm not mistaken this is basically the same strategy as used in "Adsense Resurrected" from about a year ago. It was a total mess.
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          • Profile picture of the author jiht76
            Originally Posted by remodeler View Post

            If I'm not mistaken this is basically the same strategy as used in "Adsense Resurrected" from about a year ago. It was a total mess.
            I googled Adsense Resurrected and I found a 'blog and ping' software. I like blogs a lot but I'm not going to use that, neither 'ping'

            If someone can explain more about this would be great.
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        • Profile picture of the author jiht76
          Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

          I like the title of this thread, I am sure I have seen it somewhere before? Anyway, I don't think PPC to optin page is the best tactic for making Adsense income for a few reasons.

          1. It is far better to use your hard earned optins for something more. List building in a niche is a fantastic marketing tactic on its own and using PPC is just one way to start building one although can be expensive for the unwary.

          2. Sending the same visitors over and over to your adsense pages is not really a good idea, it could seriously threaten your adsense account.

          3. I seriously doubt that recycling the same visitors will lead to sales after they click on your adsense ads. This will surely mean your Adsense account will be prone to smart pricing by google.
          Thanks for posting here Steve. I do know it's a hard job... but someone have to try it!

          I've had good results with the sites that I already have, and I came up with this "list to adsense" idea because after a few emails I didn't not know what to sell to my list. So I start sending them to articles with well placed adsense ads.

          After a couple of days I rise my adsense earning from 1 to 2 dollars to over 10 an sometimes 20.

          My head make a "k-ching!" when I found that for a specific site I was spending less than a dolar daily in adwords and making over 7 in adsense.

          That's why I want to give this a try.

          Now about your reasons:

          1. Yes, I do think there is a better way to make money from a list that just adsense in matter of profits, but if I can do this semi-automatically it will be worthwhile. Let's see if adsense is enough to make this profitable.

          2. I don't see why sending a visitor to an adsense page could hurt my adsense account. After all, the subscriber of an "adsense blog" is always coming back to an "adsense page". If you could explain this a little bit more would be great.

          3. A lot of my visitors make an order after sending them to articles with adsense. They even thanked me for sharing important information.

          I think this is the key... the "list to adsense" method is more about building a site for the visitors not for adsense... but I'll explain more about this when I'll built the new sites.

          Thanks again and please keep posting with comments and suggestions... I'm not revealing any "hidden secrets" here... I'll do need good work, tools, analysis and knowledge to make this happen.

          If I failed we will all learned something... If I succeed I'll be happy to sell autographed shirts.
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          • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
            Naturally, all sites will get some sort of return visitor depending on how good the site is and other factors. However, sending the same visitors over and over from a list without any other natural traffic is just asking for big trouble from google.

            Originally Posted by jiht76 View Post

            Thanks for posting here Steve. I do know it's a hard job... but someone have to try it!


            2. I don't see why sending a visitor to an adsense page could hurt my adsense account. After all, the subscriber of an "adsense blog" is always coming back to an "adsense page". If you could explain this a little bit more would be great.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      Sending Adwords traffic to a site designed for Adsense is a strict no-no and anybody doing this will be banned by Google.

      You say that you are not going to be doing this, though I didn't fully understand how, but I wanted to make sure that people copying you understood the risks involved in this strategy.

      Pearson
      Hmm... I wonder why the AdSense website recommends it? :confused:

      https://www.google.com/adsense/stati...sherTools.html

      Could this be some diabolical plot to get all their publishers banned?

      Maybe it's ok if you just follow the rules.

      "This new policy requirement doesn't mean that you can't use online advertising; it simply means that if you do, you need to be sure that the way you advertise meets with the guidelines, whether it's through AdWords or through any other advertising program."

      Inside AdSense: Policy updates -- and it's not even Thursday!
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Are you going to be mailing your list every day?

    I've found that mailing most of my lists more than once a week leads to low click-thrus and lots of spam complaints.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author jiht76
      Great comments people!!

      Let me see what can say about this...

      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      Are you going to be mailing your list every day?

      I've found that mailing most of my lists more than once a week leads to low click-thrus and lots of spam complaints.

      Pearson
      I don't know how often I'll be mailing. I'll first learn about the market. If they are eager to receive constant information I'll send emails more often.

      I have made some test in 3 of my actual sites and found that my sales and clicks rise when I email them every day for 3 to 5 days and then 2 to 3 times a week.

      Every niche is different. I'll have to learn from them.

      Originally Posted by remodeler View Post

      This is a link to a brief post on what adsense resurrected was about. You can find much more info on Google. Like I said, the program launch put out by the Riches was a complete fiasco. But the methods behind it are similar to what you are doing. AdSense Resurrected Review
      I read the post and I have to say:

      - The method seem very similar to what I'll use indeed. I'll plan to have some advanced tactics to reinforce the method but it's very close of what AR propose.

      - Apparently the fiasco was the launch of the product not about the information itself. For me this confirms that this method is not an easy one and most people will see it as a lot of work, also that they didn't make the launch and post sale in the right way, but I can't find any proof that the method itself doesn't work. If you have something that show this please let me know.

      Originally Posted by hernan10 View Post

      Apparently some of you have never heard of arbitrage.
      traceye is right, it is against the TOS of adsense..
      the adsense code can track the referrers to your site and will know that you are using paid traffic.
      I take this from the adsense Program Policies:

      "Publishers using online advertising to drive traffic to pages showing Google ads must comply with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. "

      So you can use paid advertising as long as you have a good landing page according to Google.

      In other words, create pages and sites with the user in mind not just for showing adsense. That's what I plan to do.

      Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

      Naturally, all sites will get some sort of return visitor depending on how good the site is and other factors. However, sending the same visitors over and over from a list without any other natural traffic is just asking for big trouble from google.
      This comment is good. Thanks Steve.

      I didn't find anything about returning visitors in the Adsense Program Policies but I do like the idea of having organic traffic.

      With this in mind I'll make my site not "adwords exclusive" but also SEO. In that way I can have organic traffic also.

      Thanks to all for your comments. I just want to end this post with some words of the great blogger Darren Rose:

      "If I had to narrow my advice on using AdSense down to a single word it would be 'experiment'"

      So, let's keep this experiment going.

      FYI:
      In the last 7 days I've made $86,74 which is a little over $12 daily
      In the 7 days prior that I've made $14,44, about $2 daily
      By now the experiment is working.
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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    This is a link to a brief post on what adsense resurrected was about. You can find much more info on Google. Like I said, the program launch put out by the Riches was a complete fiasco. But the methods behind it are similar to what you are doing. AdSense Resurrected Review
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  • Profile picture of the author hernan10
    Apparently some of you have never heard of arbitrage.
    traceye is right, it is against the TOS of adsense..
    the adsense code can track the referrers to your site and will know that you are using paid traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by hernan10 View Post

      Apparently some of you have never heard of arbitrage.
      traceye is right, it is against the TOS of adsense..
      the adsense code can track the referrers to your site and will know that you are using paid traffic.
      Hmm... Someone should let AdSense know this so they can stop telling people it's ok.

      "This new policy requirement doesn't mean that you can't use online advertising; it simply means that if you do, you need to be sure that the way you advertise meets with the guidelines, whether it's through AdWords or through any other advertising program."

      Inside AdSense: Policy updates -- and it's not even Thursday!
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    I think you're sailing in dangerous waters here. You might call it a "hover ad" but I'm not sure Google will see it like that. Its a popover/popup by a different name. And they definitely don't like that associated with their Adsense.
    And they certainly will frown on your squeeze page. Read it for yourself -

    "Referral offerings must be made without any obligation or requirement to end users. Publishers may not solicit email addresses from users in conjunction with AdSense referral units".

    You may not last the 30 days and they may not pay you. BTW you do credit him but basically you're ripping off Steve Crooks idea. Sorry. No points for originality.
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    • Profile picture of the author jiht76
      Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

      I think you're sailing in dangerous waters here. You might call it a "hover ad" but I'm not sure Google will see it like that. Its a popover/popup by a different name. And they definitely don't like that associated with their Adsense.
      And they certainly will frown on your squeeze page. Read it for yourself -

      "Referral offerings must be made without any obligation or requirement to end users. Publishers may not solicit email addresses from users in conjunction with AdSense referral units".

      You may not last the 30 days and they may not pay you. BTW you do credit him but basically you're ripping off Steve Crooks idea. Sorry. No points for originality.
      Good points, now let me clear this.

      I will not use hover ads or squeeze pages along with adsense ads
      I will not force users to opt-in to read content
      I'll not build an "adsense site", I'll build a 'users' site, respecting Google TOS

      About my originality ... Steve himself promote new adsense challenges on his site (one of the reasons I decided to do this). So please don't call me a "rip off" before checking the facts straight.

      I'm not doing this because I want to win an originality contest.

      I do this because I like challenges and I can learn and teach with this.

      Sorry if you don't like that my friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    The big difference with Steve was that he was using a method he had tried and tested (and even written an ebook about.) Anybody who copied Steve's method could feel safe that it would work (at least to some degree) and that Google would approve.

    By using such a similar headline, you're implying that what you are doing is similar to Steve but in fact it's untried and risky.

    I hope newcomers see the clear difference.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author jiht76
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      The big difference with Steve was that he was using a method he had tried and tested (and even written an ebook about.) Anybody who copied Steve's method could feel safe that it would work (at least to some degree) and that Google would approve.

      By using such a similar headline, you're implying that what you are doing is similar to Steve but in fact it's untried and risky.

      I hope newcomers see the clear difference.

      Pearson
      Yes, you got that right... Don't try this at home kids!!
      At least not after checking my results.

      By the way, the fact that I'm a Google Advertising Professional should count for something right? I'll add my GAP link to my signature just in case you want to confirm.

      I'm no newbie my friend. But it's good to keep clear that this is, as I explained in my first post, a personal challenge. Not a "let's all risk our pants on this" dare.

      As I also said, this is not going to be easy... that's why I like to do it.

      This week I'll start building the site. I'll go to the beach for a nice vacation and I'll take my laptop to do it there.

      I'll explain how I'll build the site in the next post.

      Thanks for all your comments.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
        I have no doubt you are indeed very qualified in Adwords but I just feel that the model you are using with Adsense is just to risky. If you had said you were going to do this with affiliate sites or your own product then it would become a hell of a lot more feasible.

        Originally Posted by jiht76 View Post

        Yes, you got that right... Don't try this at home kids!!
        At least not after checking my results.

        By the way, the fact that I'm a Google Advertising Professional should count for something right? I'll add my GAP link to my signature just in case you want to confirm.

        I'm no newbie my friend. But it's good to keep clear that this is, as I explained in my first post, a personal challenge. Not a "let's all risk our pants on this" dare.

        As I also said, this is not going to be easy... that's why I like to do it.

        This week I'll start building the site. I'll go to the beach for a nice vacation and I'll take my laptop to do it there.

        I'll explain how I'll build the site in the next post.

        Thanks for all your comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigCashDetective
    I cant wait to see how you do on this one,I will be watching very closely.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oling
    All that i have read and see on forums and ebook materials point to the fact that Google has banned arbitage. And adwords as far as i know is not allowed on adsense TOS. Well i would like to see how you progress and hope you will successful.

    Good luck to you and I will follow this thread too.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Creadiv
    I will follow this for a while to see how you do. I prefer the simple methods and some of this seems a bit risky but it is at least interesting. I wish you luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan
    good luck with this. i will be following all the way...

    thank you for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author WorldIR
    it is possible esp with high concentrated traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    I want to share some data about my actual CTR and eCPM

    Does anybody know if Google allow me to do this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
    Hey Paisa,

    Great challenge, I am rooting for you, I followed Steve's challenge very close and I am taking some action in my part, which is good. Soy de Guayaquil y ancioso com los resultados del desafio.
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    I found this link that let you create screenshoots of adsense earning with any value you want. So funny.

    Don't worry I'm not going to be using it but I wonder If some "guru" used this in a miracle adsense secret ebook.

    Make money with Google AdSense
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    • Profile picture of the author oohah
      Hi jiht76,

      I don't know why Aussie online is taking potshots at you. It is completely unnecessary and has nothing to do with anything. You are trying to help us while you are testing something. Perhaps he is missing that point?

      ***

      I want to say thanks for trying out this experiment and openly sharing your experience and the information and knowledge you will gather.

      Maybe you will succeed, maybe you won't -- but I like that you are giving it a go!

      Some of the people are trying to bring up legitimate concerns.You have been very polite and professional in your replies to everyone. Kudos to you! Might I suggest that you reply to the legitimate concerns, questions, etc. and simply ignore the rest?

      And please don't be discouraged. I'm sure you alter your strategy as needed. This kind of study can only benefit you and those who you share info with!

      Thanks again,

      Ken
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      • Profile picture of the author jiht76
        Originally Posted by oohah View Post

        Hi jiht76,

        I don't know why Aussie online is taking potshots at you. It is completely unnecessary and has nothing to do with anything. You are trying to help us while you are testing something. Perhaps he is missing that point?

        ***

        I want to say thanks for trying out this experiment and openly sharing your experience and the information and knowledge you will gather.

        Maybe you will succeed, maybe you won't -- but I like that you are giving it a go!

        Some of the people are trying to bring up legitimate concerns.You have been very polite and professional in your replies to everyone. Kudos to you! Might I suggest that you reply to the legitimate concerns, questions, etc. and simply ignore the rest?

        And please don't be discouraged. I'm sure you alter your strategy as needed. This kind of study can only benefit you and those who you share info with!

        Thanks again,

        Ken
        Thanks for your comments. I'll be really focusing on the legitimate concerns and questions.

        I wanted to know if I could share my CTR and eCPM... People say I can't but I'll risk myself a little and say this....

        My best channels CTR are constantly getting two digits % with a eCPM of about the price of a regular ebook.

        (Don't tell Google I shared this info )

        As I've told in an earlier post, my focus is convertions. I compared this channels with some others and I think I've found the way for great adsense convertions.

        I have over 3000 ads impressions a day. By now the best channels are getting less than 100 ads impressions each... but that's about to change in the next weeks :rolleyes:

        (If you can somehow comment your CTRs and eCPM also it would be great but please don't risk yourself too much)
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    • Profile picture of the author ActionplanBiz.ws
      Lol Thats Not Cool At All
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      • Profile picture of the author Jgregory
        he's got a workable idea that will meet the TOS for adsense. As long as he doesn't send his traffic to the page containing adsense he's OK.

        But buying those clicks to run a conversion process to make a few pennies on Adsense... well, that's what I want to see for the results. Seems better to be sending the converts to something with more %

        let's give him some encouragement. Rather he experiment than me.
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        • Profile picture of the author sOliver
          Originally Posted by Jgregory View Post

          he's got a workable idea that will meet the TOS for adsense. As long as he doesn't send his traffic to the page containing adsense he's OK.

          But buying those clicks to run a conversion process to make a few pennies on Adsense... well, that's what I want to see for the results. Seems better to be sending the converts to something with more %

          let's give him some encouragement. Rather he experiment than me.
          Well I always thought you can send adwords traffic to a site adsense ads as long as there is other content (real content). A parking-like page would be not allowed for example.

          So can I only send adwords traffic to a site without ads but then have them on a 2nd, 3rd, .. page?

          Have to research a bit about that ..
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  • Profile picture of the author cclegg06
    Well said Ken. I complete agree. Thanks for doing this on the forum jiht76. I'll be watching closely.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Google AdSense disabling arbitrage publisher accounts as of June 1st | JenSense

      That is why some think using arbitrage is not acceptable. Many google adsense accounts were closed. The publishers were paid but the message from google was clear at the time.

      Maybe it's changed or publishers have a way around it - don't know.

      kay
      Those sites were shut down because they had no real content, mostly just ads. Those ads were made to look like navigation links for the website. This created a real problem for Google users who would find themselves in an endless loop of pages filled with ads.

      Google had to take action because there was a significant drop in people clicking sponsored links on Google results, which they traced back to this problem.

      If you follow the guidelines, there is no problem with advertising your pages that contain AdSense ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hyaku_Man
      This will be interesting. The way I do Adsense is pretty standard SEO/longtail keyword optimization. I'm not sure I want to use Adwords method based on what I've read so far, but I'm sure I will learn something about Adwords and list-building from reading this.

      Kept it goin'!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yudha Andika
    Stay tune at this thread...very interesting thread...but Adwords for Adsense...its legal way mate?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sonny1977
      Good luck on your challenge! very interesting to see the results.
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      • Profile picture of the author jiht76
        Aqui estoy amigos!

        I'm still working on the idea. It's been quite harder than I had planned (mainly because I recently had to be occupied in other projects) but I'm still working on it.

        Today I launched a site that would be monetized partially by adsense.

        The first few hours looks very promissing. But I'll wait a couple of days to see what would be worthy to share.

        Stay tuned
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  • Profile picture of the author Oling
    So this thread is getting more attention. good luck and would like to know the end result as this is very interesting. Adwords for adsense site is something that is not too popular.

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    • Profile picture of the author otakupahp
      Ok, I followed some links, read some posts and found interested things, perhaps some concerned warriors would like to read this post:

      AdMoolah News and Views You Can Use AdWords To Drive Traffic To Your AdSense Site
      or maybe this one

      Inside AdSense: AdWords and AdSense: a perfect pair
      Perhaps I misunderstand it but, does google promote the AdWords - AdSense marriage?

      I think if jiht76 can make user oriented sites instead of AdSense oriented ones, his strategy is correct, right?

      Anyway, I will be tunned to see the results.

      PD: I tried to provide the links, but since I am a newbie here I couldn't, so I had to remove the. Sorry, you should search for them at google
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  • Profile picture of the author ONOFFMarketing
    Arbitrage was great back in the day. Lately though it seems like Google's cracking down and generic sites are taking all the lower end bids.

    I usually arbitrage as a secondary campaign. I'll pitch the sale to people who see my ads but if they'll click an ad I'm cool with that too. In a way its almost like I get a portion of my PPC budget back.
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    Thanks otakupahp for the comments

    I think these are the links you were posting

    Inside AdSense: AdWords and AdSense: a perfect pair

    AdMoolah News and Views You Can Use AdWords To Drive Traffic To Your AdSense Site

    Great info there. Thanks for sharing.

    This give me more ideas to work with the sites I'll be building.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
    Hey Jorge, Any updates on your challenge?
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    Hi all.

    I' been following my actual sites to see the best way of creating content.
    I'm thinking about a mix with public articles, content generator software and my own articles.

    It seem to me that I'll need 5 new sites to at least be close to the 100 a day. So I do need to think about a fast way to generate content.

    My ctr and ecpm is high and steady which prove that my ads placement is really good
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    • Profile picture of the author willye
      OK I registered to post this. Nowhere in the OP first message did he talk about adwords to adsense.
      These are the steps he is going to do
      1.Create a user friendly site My guess 2 or 3 pages of good info
      2. On index he is going to create a page with no ads but an opt in box for a newsletter.
      3. Use adwords to drive traffic to page
      4. He will email his new list with a link to some Good info on his web site with well placed adsense ads.
      nothing in this sequence violates any of the Google Tos. Please read his first message carefully
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  • Profile picture of the author willye
    Cant wait to see how this turns out
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  • Profile picture of the author laguna1811
    I'm looking forward to see your results. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Blackburn
    Good look with the challenge... and how generous of you to offer to share your findings. I'll be back to find out how it went.

    That Google Adsense Earning image maker... Pretty cool lol, I don't think I believe another adsense screen shot again though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    Keep updating us please.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oling
    As i was reading this thread I have the wrong impression about adwords and adsense. That you cannot use adwords to get them to your site. So you can advertise using adwords to your site with adsense in them. This is some kind of eye opening to me. i have always believe that its NOT allowe dto use adwords that will go to your adsense site.

    Thanks for the info

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  • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
    it seems that this thread kind of died....I wonder if Jorge got anywhere with his challenge.
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  • Profile picture of the author cclegg06
    I wouldn't say dead. He started the thread on 4/4 and said that after 30 days he'd provide us with the outcomes and some method details. Hoping to get the scoop in early May.
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    • Profile picture of the author oohah
      Maybe Jorge is doing so well he decided he didn't want to let the rest of us schlubs ruin his technique! ;-)

      Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author cclegg06
    Thanks for hanging in there with us! Look forward to hearing your findings regardless of your level of success.

    I'm doing something very similar along with you and I'll be happy to comment on my stats along with yours.
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    thanks for doing this
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    I can't wait for the results. Sounds interesting.
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    Will be following closely....
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  • Profile picture of the author Frances Norah S
    Very interesting thread. Will be following. As for this method to achieve $100 in 30 days, I believe you need a substantial amount of capital to begin with since you are using Adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author jiht76
    Hi all.

    Ok, the challenge is over

    I have learned a lot in the process. I did made near $100 a day...
    but not thanks to adsense

    However the result are good, let me share them with you:

    By today my profits in the new projects are about $70 daily,
    exactly $75.57 on a daily average.

    It's not bad for the first month on a brand new project.

    Saddly most of the earning are direct sales (saddly!), however
    the adsense earning show a major increasing from previous months.

    I have to confess I did not invest all of my time in this challenge
    because other projects were more urgent to complete...

    I needed to create some video training for PPCMatic.com - Home
    and setup the new prices based on a lifetime subscription... But
    I'll talk about this later.

    Right now, Let me remind you what was my process I planned
    to make money with adsense.
    1. First I made keywords research
    2. Then I create a site relevant to a specific niche
    3. I create a squeeze page as a home page for this site
    4. I send traffic to this site
    5. I use viral marketing to multiply my traffic
    6. I use the mailing list to send messages to articles with adsense on them.

    The process worked like a charm to get traffic and I'm still
    going to push forward to it.

    But as in any recipe the secrets are on the ingredients....

    This is what I used:

    For Keyword Research:

    Google Keywords Tool
    Spyfu
    KeyCompete

    To create the site:

    I made a special software for this. It's called MiniuWeb.com - Inicio
    This software allow me to create the web pages, make sales, OTOs and
    viral marketing.

    To create traffic:

    Adwords as I announced from the start... and
    PPCMatic.com - Home to create massive campaigns at low costs

    Viral marketing:

    I used MiniuWeb.com - Inicio to offer 100% comissions on
    direct sales and the built int tell a friend system to help
    people spread the word.

    Email Marketing:

    I have a system for this, it's called ActiveMailPro - Home Page

    Adsense Pages:

    I used XsitePro2 for this. I used some articles I wrote but
    most of the were free articles.


    Results

    I choose to attact the "make money online" market... in spanish.

    I know that adsense don't pay to much in spanish compared to english
    but giving the tools and knowledge I have this was a good market for me.

    Also there is not too much competition there but enough to
    have some good adsense earnings.

    Plus if the system work... I could apply it in english speaking
    markets... which I'll do now.

    I launched the site about 7 days ago. By now I have over 550 people
    in my mailing list... really good.

    The average cost for a visitor goes from 8 to 12 cents and a new lead cost 60 cents in average... really good. The secret here is Adwords with
    PPCmatic.com

    Now, for the adsense results... I have CTRs of over 20%. The most profitable
    channels give me over $80 with a little over 1400 impressions.

    This could look great... and it actually is... But!!

    But... with 1400 impressions I could make more money selling something
    or sending them to affiliate products.

    So what are my conclusions...

    Adwords for adsense can work... is not easy... is not cheap... but
    it works. However if you use adwords your main focus should be
    building a list and then making money in any way you want.

    However adsense and articles are great to educate your list
    and making profits in the process. I'm still going to do this for sure.

    This challenge have thought me a lot and give me the change
    to create some really nice software for my new projects.

    Thanks to all for joining in this. Critics and supporters. I did take note from
    all the comments (as you could see) to create a project that could make
    the best results.

    Finally I plan to launch an english version of MiniuWeb.com - Inicio in the next weeks. Stay tunned for this.

    Please send any comment or suggestions you could have.

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