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Hi everybody,

I need some seo specialists help.
I am very preoccupied about the question that I have.
First let me explain my situation.
On my hosting I have about 10 websites hosted on a same IP address. Every time I run a new website I start with my SEO campaign which contains about 80-90% of contextual links with different keywords pointing to different pages. Usually I submit my articles to 10-15 article directories and press release sites. All thees sites have PR 2-6 and different IP addresses.

Now every time when I start a new website I run new SEO campaign and I use the same sites to submit my articles and get backlinks, so practically every time I get more and more backlinks from the same IP's to the same IP.

So here is my question. My websites (domain names etc.) every time are new, but at the other hand they are on the same IP, so by getting more and more backlinks from the same sources to a new websites which are hosted on the same IP I am loosing weight of my backlinks or not?
Thank You in advance for any reply and sorry for my bad English.
  • Profile picture of the author harry911
    It isn't bad unless you're doing interlinking between your sites. Btw, article and press release links are some of the least powerful links today. They are good for diversity, but they are not powerful enough to be used as main SEO strategy.
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    • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
      Originally Posted by harry911 View Post

      It isn't bad unless you're doing interlinking between your sites. Btw, article and press release links are some of the least powerful links today. They are good for diversity, but they are not powerful enough to be used as main SEO strategy.
      Well some of them are interlinked. most of links are NoFollow.. Should I unlink them?
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    • Profile picture of the author kaytav
      Originally Posted by harry911 View Post

      It isn't bad unless you're doing interlinking between your sites. Btw, article and press release links are some of the least powerful links today. They are good for diversity, but they are not powerful enough to be used as main SEO strategy.
      I agree with Harry,
      Google is giving least preference to article submissions due to increasing amount of spamming. You should try doing Guest posting on niche relevant sites. That would help increase you authority of your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yesceeohhh
    Probably yes and article submission plays very minimal role in the quality back links. There are many off-site optimization techniques available to get quality backlinks. Just explore the SEO knowledge and try to find websites related to your niche and get quality backlinks. Don't stick in with article directories alone. It loses its complexion after penguin update. Hope this helps you!!
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    • Profile picture of the author wilsonbar
      As it relates to SEO, C Class IP is important as it relates to backlinks. When Google and the other search engines are indexing the backlinks to your site, they want to see backlinks from a variety of IP address (URL's). If all your backlinks come from the same IP (URL) address, it doesn't look natural and the backlinks will loose value.
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  • Profile picture of the author shailender
    Focusing on Article Directories and Press Releases links are not good enough, you should focus on getting relevant links as per your website niche. You can use various link building techniques that helps your to acquire quality links. Now a days "Guest Posting" is considered one of the best link building technique.
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  • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
    Wow thank You guys for quick replies.
    I understand perfectlly what you are saying and all off You're right. The thing is that I live in Lithuania (a small Country). Most of our article directories are not link farms yet so far. Some of them have less than 100 articles, but good age, PR and I think that google treats thees sites like normal blogs. Infact I am not a newbie in SEO I have really good results using thoes sites for seo campaigns even in really competitive loan niche. I know enough about best techniques to use after google P&P updates. High quality, naturality, diversity, importance of social signals, second tier backlinks,etc. And I am working on it.
    I just want to figure out how exactly google (and other search egines) give weight to backlinks.
    Let's say that for every seo campaign We use 30 different sources (with 30 different IP's) to build our backlink profiles for every new website, and thoes websites are hosted on the same IP, so in this case google sees backlinks coming from thoes 30 IP's to a new website - domain, or google sees another 30 backlinks coming from thoes 30 IP's to the same old IP and give them less and less power? This is what I am trying to figure out.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
    Yes they give them less power. You can find cheap hosts @ 1-2$ /m and separate them. Also it's not reccomended that you keep linking the same sites over and over from every site. Ie the same OBL profile from 30 sites could raise a flag on them.
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    • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
      Originally Posted by GodMode52 View Post

      Yes they give them less power. You can find cheap hosts @ 1-2$ /m and separate them. Also it's not reccomended that you keep linking the same sites over and over from every site. Ie the same OBL profile from 30 sites could raise a flag on them.
      Ok. and what if I order some C Class IP's on my hosting and will place every 1-2 websites on different IP's? It will play the game?
      Well Iam not shore what you're saying about flaging. Do you mean that by getting lots of backlinks from the same IP's to the same IP I put at risk my websites to get flaged, so I have to separate my sites and place them on different IP's right?
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      • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
        Originally Posted by vaidavytas View Post

        Ok. and what if I order some C Class IP's on my hosting and will place every 1-2 websites on different IP's? It will play the game?
        Well Iam not shore what you're saying about flaging. Do you mean that by getting lots of backlinks from the same IP's to the same IP I put at risk my websites to get flaged, so I have to separate my sites and place them on different IP's right?
        First of all what's the point if you are doing no-follows?

        Secondly yes it will play the game , homever again no point to play the game if you are no-following those links.

        Thrid thing if you have 30 sites , every site have an article which points to the same site , actually every site have 20+ articles and all of them keep pointing at the same sites with same backlinks going out , this looks like a blog network , even worse on the same IP , so you could easily get your sites de-indexed. Homever if you are no-following those links I guess there's no problems , but can't see the point of the whole thing if you're doing it this way. Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
          Originally Posted by GodMode52 View Post

          First of all what's the point if you are doing no-follows?

          Secondly yes it will play the game , homever again no point to play the game if you are no-following those links.

          Thrid thing if you have 30 sites , every site have an article which points to the same site , actually every site have 20+ articles and all of them keep pointing at the same sites with same backlinks going out , this looks like a blog network , even worse on the same IP , so you could easily get your sites de-indexed. Homever if you are no-following those links I guess there's no problems , but can't see the point of the whole thing if you're doing it this way. Cheers
          Well you got me wrong. Nofollow are only thoes links which are interlinking my websites. They are hosted on same IP so practically there is no seo benefits if I make them dofollow, plus PR wary from site to site, so I didn't wanted to loose PR by having links on site with PR3 pointing to site With PR0, etc. Anyway I have learned the lesson, thank you for your help. I can't forgive my self that I didn't realise this impotant thing time ago.. I definitely will separate my sites buy putting them on different IP's. Logically after this action my SEO perfoamance should improve or I am wrong?
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          • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
            Originally Posted by vaidavytas View Post

            Well you got me wrong. Nofollow are only thoes links which are interlinking my websites. They are hosted on same IP so practically there is no seo benefits if I make them dofollow, plus PR wary from site to site, so I didn't wanted to loose PR by having links on site with PR3 pointing to site With PR0, etc. Anyway I have learned the lesson, thank you for your help. I can't forgive my self that I didn't realise this impotant thing time ago.. I definitely will separate my sites buy putting them on different IP's. Logically after this action my SEO perfoamance should improve or I am wrong?
            Yes, it's definitly reccomended to keep them on separated hosting .
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            • Profile picture of the author talking
              You may try hosting which aseohosting.com provides.
              It seems to me they are able to satisfy all your needs.
              Prices are competitive and their live chat is online around the clock.
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              • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
                Originally Posted by talking View Post

                You may try hosting which aseohosting.com provides.
                It seems to me they are able to satisfy all your needs.
                Prices are competitive and their live chat is online around the clock.
                Hi, well I was thinking about it but after I read this info Looking for the best SEO hosting with a lot C class Ips - Web Hosting Talk and I have changed my mind. I have decided to place my money websites on different A class IPs by ordering some different webhostings. Luckilly I have found lots of great offers on WHT forum. Anyway thank's for the info.
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                • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
                  Currently I have another issue and I need an advice from You guys.
                  On one of press release websites all my articles were deleted, they also have changed website design and permalink structure.I think now it is uselless to resubmit thoes articles back to that site.
                  Now thees articles in a eyes of google are considered "duplicate content for life" or I can resumbit them to other website after some time?
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  • I would split your websites up onto several C Class IPs to be safe. Realistically though, if you're only doing small quantities of links, which it sounds like you are, you should be fine either way.
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    • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
      Originally Posted by premiumonlinewriting View Post

      I would split your websites up onto several C Class IPs to be safe. Realistically though, if you're only doing small quantities of links, which it sounds like you are, you should be fine either way.
      Thank for your advice. I will.
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  • Profile picture of the author umrbd
    In my opinion, their is no harm in the backlinking process but it will have no or very little positive effect on rankings. As google focuses on variety of ip addresses of the outbound links to determine your positions in search engines, the links from same ip will not have much effect
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  • Profile picture of the author vaidavytas
    To wilsonbar and umrbd. It's not about links from same IP. We talk about links pointing to the same IP (diferent sites) from same 30 IP's...
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