Google Page Freshness Trend

It's not a weak comp. keyword, lol.

The forum has multiple relevant pages listed (like most VB forums have).

You must not do many news searches If you haven't noticed freshness working. My keyword isn't news related, but freshness is still happening in the SERPs.

No, that's not how Wordpress works, If your talking about WP/URLs.

On WP once you create a Post & the Post goes live, when you go back to edit the Post title the URL doesn't change unless you manually change it yourself. There's no broken URLs.





I updated multiple pages linking to each other (all relevant) to get Google to return to my site. When I update this blog it gets re-cached instantly, it's an old established blog. I wanted the Google bot back on my page to see that the page has been updated.

Changing title of page does not change the URL string all the time. It depends which CMS you are using for your website.

Probably the same reason you have 7 different anchor-text links in your forum sig. all pointing at the same URL.

Maybe they don't know any better?

Exactly. As a strategy to be used across the board it sucks. IF this worked against good competition then you could just set your server up to push new updates every half an hour and rank number one. QDF only affects some serps. Shucks if it even worked on medium competition as a general rule then everyone here in the top five or first page in their serps would rank number one after they made a new post

Fact is large forums are SELDOM EVER SEOed for long tail by the owners. WF ranks for all kinds of terms that you will see created by USERS. So yeah in a weak serp where a site is ranking for some term the owner isn't even optimizing his site for the keywords. Just about any change may put you over the top.

Representing that thas is a viable strategy for everyone to use that most people don't know about is just nonsense.

You are out my man. You been spying on my PMs or you would not know that less than an hour ago I was talking about 2013 being golden if I roll out some new ventures and then we crash your wedding (that part is not joke...really just was Pming Nest and talked about crashing your wedding).

Didn't know you were waiting on me. Must have got lost in translation somewhere (you know you Californians can't talk good english). I'll Pm you shortly.

Yeah thats the other thing about QDF its very temporary

Thanks, glad someone else knows what I'm talking about. The difference between position #1 & #2 is very noticeable for this particular keyword I'm ranking for. Position #1 gets right at 50% of the monthly traffic according to WMT.

Yes, changed the title by adding a relevant keyword to the existing title. Updated 3 pages total. My blog usually shows the update instantly in Google Cache.

I've played around with re-caching the page & had the Index page re-cached 4 times in less than an hour, just to see If it would work, it worked as fast as I could update the blog/pages.

It's not a good idea to change the URL.

If you change the URL your completely starting over, your also creating a 404 for the already indexed page (If you change the URL).

I think what Mike is getting at is, he doesn't know much about freshness.

Nobody is claiming freshness is a single ranking factor, anyone that's been around longer than a month should know there's multiple ranking factors.

Whats to incorporate really? Its a temporary boost its not a long term strategy. Good night so yukon started this thread to tell us about QDF? LOL, Didn't every single thinking person who knows a lick of SEO already know that?

Its pitiful is right. He's even advocating using a script to keep yourself ranking. How lame is that? Its a gimmick that does NOT work in any really competitive serp. Thats just a fact and if Yuke wants to show one competitive serp to contradict me on that he is free to but as usual in these look at me threads (some of which have nothing to do with SEO at all) he never backs up anything he states. The last claim was that he GUARANTEES (his word) google checks the relevance of the backlinks to your backlinks source for relevance on your page. I offered to sponsor a contest to put that theory to the tests and he runs off. So much foe the guarantee.

Seriously anyone want to buy into this as part of a seo strategy ask yourself - why it is that you don't see the serps on the front page bouncing rankings all over the place EVERY DAY not remain static on MANY serps for days on end even though when you go to the site new stuff even with keywords has been added.

QDF is designed to give fresh results for serps that are news worthy or where an update might be what the searcher is looking for. In weak serps it will show very nicely but like I said from my first post ( and Yuke keeps lying through his teeth claiming otherwise) though it works for weak serps it seldom does for very competitive terms. So you changed a title and you ranked bam? Shuck frankly the claim of instant reindexing of a Pr 3 every time within minutes is load of garbage in and of itself - its anecdotal (and not even verified just a say so) . That justifies the crappy SEO idea of ranking based on running automatic updates form a cms or PHP?

We call nonsense on a lot of less silly techniques so I'll call it for what it is here

Nonsense.

Go out and build better links or create better content (that will also attract more votes for your site and/or give you a better LSI score) and forget the crappy gimmicks that work only in pitifully weak serps or newsworthy items.

True, SERP algos. are built to be constantly changed.

The first sign of freshness not being effective will be seen on the news sites in the SERPs. Still works today.