Buying Cheap Links? Bad? Explain please

by GGpaul
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Okay, so I know a lot of you guys emphasized how high PR sites that offer backlinks for $5-$20 a month is outrageous. I've read multiple times where you guys say you wouldn't go less than $200 for a PR 5 and above.

However, I've seen sites that owners offer for that $5-$20 range with a PR 4 - 5.
At the same time, they have low outbound links, aged site (couple years old, some at 2000), Good trust flow, Decent DA and Moz Rank, and they're contextual backlinks.

So why is it that some of you avoid these cheap ones if that's the case?
#cheap #links
  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    And yes, there are a lot of backlinks as well. It's not FAKE PR. I've confirmed through researching.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRealRazzy
    People don't necessarily avoid the lower PR links, they just don't build them directly to their main pages. Use lower PR links to push higher pr links even more.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by TheRealRazzy View Post

      People don't necessarily avoid the lower PR links, they just don't build them directly to their main pages. Use lower PR links to push higher pr links even more.
      but PR 5 is not low in MY opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        but PR 5 is not low in MY opinion.
        Nobody said it isn't a great value. But, unless you can trust the author in the future, who knows what can happen. Many clients will come to me and say,

        "Can you show me your PBN so I know that you have it?".

        I'll say no, and 50% of them will leave. It doesn't bother me. My PBN is made to be strong, tight and private - to protect my clients. I'm not money focused like the majority of sellers, I'd much prefer to honor my clients and deliver solid results to them.

        If somebody will willingly post their URL to sell links, it's a sign that they don't care too much about the true value that the buyers should be getting.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRealRazzy
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        but PR 5 is not low in MY opinion.
        Yup, definitely read your post wrong lol

        My bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
    Right. You have to think about what can happen in the future. Doesn't matter about the past or present, it's about the future. We're not just talking about Google either, but the webmaster of the site. What if he later starts linking to pill sites? Do you want your website affiliated with pills, pharmacies, scam sites and everything else?

    I charge my clients $50 per lifetime post on my network of PR4-PR7 sites, and they are happy with that. Their post will provide years worth of great SERP results. In fact, most of my clients spend $600+ making 10-20 posts and sit at #1 for years to come. Whenever they drop below #1, they just buy more posts. But, here's a difference.

    I have a motive to keep my PBN well maintained and high-quality. My clients work with me because my PBN is well-maintained and will never become low-quality. These webmasters usually just want $20/month as a short-term income for whatever reason.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post


      I charge my clients $50 per lifetime post on my network of PR4-PR7 sites, and they are happy with that. Their post will provide years worth of great SERP results. In fact, most of my clients spend $600+ making 10-20 posts and sit at #1 for years to come.
      To be honest there are very few lifetime links stuff I take as legit. The whole permanent and lifetime link is high risk stuff. theres just so much sheenanigns that can go on in addition to real life.

      Let me count the ways you can get worked over

      1) roll baby roll - seller can keep the links forever but make them roll into siberia - sorry whats the point of permanent or lifetime if its not on the PR page. The rolling of the page thing is one of the bigest crocks going on now in almost every link package

      2) 90 days and see you later aligator. Most sellers are totally aware that after 90 days no credit card company or Paypal is going to honor a chargeback or refund request.

      3) Row row row your links gently down the stream. the seller can keep the link sand never do any link building so the links just fade away or they can redirect key links that got the site the juice to begin with

      4) I'm getting married on the morning ding dong the bells are going to chime - Life happens and people move on . Does anyone reallybelieve that five years from now a guy that sold links in 2013 is going to keep up hosting and registration charges on a domain he is no longer making any money from. He can move, he can get married , lose interest and on and on

      5) I Bernie Madoff personally guarantee. Seriously a lifetime and permanent link is completely dependent on taking someones word for it.


      Permanent and lifetime links just seems iffy to me. If you want to keep the seller interested and the sites healthy at least a yearly and preferably monthly fee is better. He has ongoing income coming in and has a vested interest not to get on a horse and ride like the win.
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      • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        To be honest there are very few lifetime links stuff I take as legit. The whole permanent and lifetime link is high risk stuff. theres just so much sheenanigns that can go on in addition to real life.
        I agree. My clients know that their posts are going to run off at some point, and will only be seen through the category page - but still, a link is a link. It's like I said earlier, always go for quality. If that quality means spending more, then do it if your business is worth it.

        One of my clients is making $60k/month from his gaming business model. He pays me a rather decent chunk of that to keep him in the SERPs, or else his business profits will go down inevitably. He has huge competition, and those competitors are coming at him fast and hard. He spends large amounts of cash to secure his income. He would never pay $10 for a PR4 link - simply because he wouldn't expect it to be of any value.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    I'm not asking for the persons PBN. For instance, when you go to this section of the forum Warrior Reciprocal Links - Buy - Sell - Swap!

    people sell and buy links. Anyways, I started a thread where I said I'm interested in buying CONTEXTUAL backlinks for my particular niche.

    The next day I got a ton of private messages with tons of listings from different owners. They provided the link, and I did my research as to how legit the site is.

    Nevertheless, they were charging an average $15-$30 a month for PR 2- Pr 5.

    And so that left me confused as to why others are saying to get the results you must spend $200+ on higher PRs.. Are they just saying this because they're luring me into their business/PBN to profit? I don't know. I would just like some feedback.
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    • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      I'm not asking for the persons PBN. For instance, when you go to this section of the forum Warrior Reciprocal Links - Buy - Sell - Swap!

      people sell and buy links. Anyways, I started a thread where I said I'm interested in buying CONTEXTUAL backlinks for my particular niche.

      The next day I got a ton of private messages with tons of listings from different owners. They provided the link, and I did my research as to how legit the site is.

      Nevertheless, they were charging an average $15-$30 a month for PR 2- Pr 5.

      And so that left me confused as to why others are saying to get the results you must spend $200+ on higher PRs.. Are they just saying this because they're luring me into their business/PBN to profit? I don't know. I would just like some feedback.
      Not necessarily. As with anything, you need to evaluate the sellers, their trust, their reputation and so forth. Let's say an Indian and Mike Anthony offered you the exact same URL at a different price.

      The Indian wanted $10/mo, Mike wanted $50/mo.

      Chances are, you would go with Mike because you know he's the real deal and is going to deliver. The same applies here. People spend more because they believe that their going to get higher quality (and their right 80% of the time).
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

        Chances are, you would go with Mike
        I want $500 a month so send me your email address and I will send you an invoice. Not to disagree with you but Mike would probably have to explain to this mike why his PR5 is five times better than the indians or mike might forget Mike. Flip forum rep.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      G what were they offering specifically for PR3 links on a per month or annual basis?
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        G what were they offering specifically for PR3 links on a per month or annual basis?
        Per month.

        And then there's a PR 4 site made in 2000, 6 OBL, 4.42 moz, 29.34 DA for $5.00 a month :confused:.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Per month.

          Yeah how much per month for the PR3s specifically?
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  • Profile picture of the author napoleonfirst
    Well, you need to be very careful when buying traffic from any site because the owner CA de-link to your site at any time. Here at the WF you can find amny reliable providers alonng with TextLinkAds.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    Well... you can pretty much an aged PR3 with a DA49+ and thousands of backlinks for $30 and own it...

    Why would you want to pay $30+ per month for a rental?
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  • Profile picture of the author DouglasP
    depends on your website PR. PR 0, and 1 website not recommended to buy any cheap backlinks. Will hurt SERP

    check the seo 2013
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