Need a Private Blog Network

11 years ago

I like having as much control as possible over my SEO activities. So I would be more inclined to build my own network and it's fairly easy to do so (I hear).

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Entrepreneur830 11 years ago

If you have any pointers or anything helpful, I'm all ears.
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uk099

11 years ago

i would be also interested in the process of setting up a private blog network

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

I have no idea why anyone would use a public blog network. That is just asking to have your site slapped.

A private network is a much better way to go if you know what you are doing and have at least a few thousand dollars to throw into it to get started.

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falcott

11 years ago

How about building a blog network using Web 2.0 properties? You don't need to invest in domains or SEO hosting. Also they are high PR.

About a year ago I joined a private blog network and was shocked at the unreadable re-spun rubbish that was being posted alongside my posts. I'm not sure if that would do me any favors. So I started using Web 2.0, which I think has more credibility and is cheaper.

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run

11 years ago

Originally Posted by falcott

How about building a blog network using Web 2.0 properties? You don't need to invest in domains or SEO hosting. Also they are high PR.

About a year ago I joined a private blog network and was shocked at the unreadable re-spun rubbish that was being posted alongside my posts. I'm not sure if that would do me any favors. So I started using Web 2.0, which I think has more credibility and is cheaper.

That's a good idea if you're only using it to link to various different sites. If you link many blogs of web2.0 to only one or two sites, IMO google will suspect and trace behind the scence. More or less, somedays you'll be slap by this Big G.

I like the idea of building private blog networks, so I'm opening all my ears to listen if anyone have good idea about it.

I heard that building private blog networks is very cost consuming because we must use SEO hosting and normal hosting each with different hosting.

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falcott

11 years ago

Originally Posted by run

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I like the idea of building private blog networks, so I'm opening all my ears to listen if anyone have good idea about it.

I heard that building private blog networks is very cost consuming because we must use SEO hosting and normal hosting each with different hosting.

Yes, it can be quite costly, not only for the domains that you must purchase, but because of the hosting. You don't want (supposedly unrelated) links coming from the same data center and/or block of IP addresses. It defeats the purpose, since G can see it.

Separate hosting gets pretty expensive, obviously. That's why I suggested using Web 2.0.

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Cash37

11 years ago

Originally Posted by falcott

How about building a blog network using Web 2.0 properties? You don't need to invest in domains or SEO hosting. Also they are high PR.

About a year ago I joined a private blog network and was shocked at the unreadable re-spun rubbish that was being posted alongside my posts. I'm not sure if that would do me any favors. So I started using Web 2.0, which I think has more credibility and is cheaper.

Also article sites (yes they still work), wikis, video links, and social media sites are good as well

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limekyln

11 years ago

If you had 10 network sites all hosted on a different host at $5 to $10 per mo, then your overhead is = $50 to $100 per month. Sounds affordable to me even if you double the numbers.

It seems to me that the larger barrier to entry is the acquisition costs of high PR network domains with strong backlink profiles. You will have to compete in auctions for the domains. 10 sites at $200 to $500 + dollars each adds up. Then there's the matter of registration fees, transfer fees, privacy fees and whatnot and you have a real business on your hands to manage. As with any business, the more knowledge and skills you acquire, the more ways you can find to lower your costs.

There are also some renewal fees for the domains and privacy that need to be covered from time to time depending on the length of terms you choose for each domain.

All in all, the aquisition costs for 10 quality domains might be about the same as buying a halfway decent used car depending on your definition of halfway decent.

You could look at your top competitors backlink profile and see how many quality high PR backlinks from unique domains they are sporting. Can you do that too? better than that? Can you afford it?

If you think you have a shot at competing, you could always start with a few domains and go from there. Maybe buy three solid domains, build them out, add links to your money sites and sit patiently for a bit. Have a look at your progress, decide your next move.

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run

11 years ago

Originally Posted by limekyln

If you had 10 network sites all hosted on a different host at $5 to $10 per mo, then your overhead is = $50 to $100 per month. Sounds affordable to me even if you double the numbers.

It seems to me that the larger barrier to entry is the acquisition costs of high PR network domains with strong backlink profiles. You will have to compete in auctions for the domains. 10 sites at $200 to $500 + dollars each adds up. Then there's the matter of registration fees, transfer fees, privacy fees and whatnot and you have a real business on your hands to manage. As with any business, the more knowledge and skills you acquire, the more ways you can find to lower your costs.

There are also some renewal fees for the domains and privacy that need to be covered from time to time depending on the length of terms you choose for each domain.

All in all, the aquisition costs for 10 quality domains might be about the same as buying a halfway decent used car depending on your definition of halfway decent.

You could look at your top competitors backlink profile and see how many quality high PR backlinks from unique domains they are sporting. Can you do that too? better than that? Can you afford it?

If you think you have a shot at competing, you could always start with a few domains and go from there. Maybe buy three solid domains, build them out, add links to your money sites and sit patiently for a bit. Have a look at your progress, decide your next move.

I have another wonder, what should I do with those private blog sites that I own. I mean that the contents, the site purpose, the niche, ....

I know that the backlinks from the related sites is powerful!

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limekyln

11 years ago

Originally Posted by run

I have another wonder, what should I do with those private blog sites that I own. I mean that the contents, the site purpose, the niche, ....

I know that the backlinks from the related sites is powerful!

If it's a blog, you can create new blog categories to suit your needs. I suppose if you are making the site for actual humans to read and find some value in your content, then your site might benefit long term from a some kind of focus and purpose. If your network is for private use , then you could probably build communities of related sites that are just a few degrees of separation away from your money site's topic(s).

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falcott

11 years ago

Originally Posted by limekyln

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It seems to me that the larger barrier to entry is the acquisition costs of high PR network domains with strong backlink profiles. You will have to compete in auctions for the domains. 10 sites at $200 to $500 + dollars each adds up. Then there's the matter of registration fees, transfer fees, privacy fees and whatnot and you have a real business on your hands to manage. As with any business, the more knowledge and skills you acquire, the more ways you can find to lower your costs.

There are also some renewal fees for the domains and privacy that need to be covered from time to time depending on the length of terms you choose for each domain.

All in all, the aquisition costs for 10 quality domains might be about the same as buying a halfway decent used car depending on your definition of halfway decent.
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Good point. I was actually thinking of acquiring expired domains with PR 2-4 from Godaddy for around $10 plus fees each, which I've done. Sorry I didn't express myself fully.

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kaytav

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Entrepreneur830

I have 2 sites I'm doing SEO for and the keywords are pretty competitive. I'm looking for advice on either building a private blog network or joining one. I have ability to build to build a blog network if needed. I'd probably be limited to 15 blogs of pr2 and 3 though. I understand I can join blog networks but I'm really weary of that because of the panda 3.3 update. I don't want my rankings to disappear in 12 months. Does anyone know of a good blog network where I can place my articles? I write all my content and it's all 100% unique. If not, would you suggest building a private blog network instead?

Private Blog networks are a great way to increase your rankings. I can help you with private blog networks. Contact me if you need to. You can check my signature for reference.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

There are many people selling ebooks about how to setup a private blog network.

For example Mike Anthony or you can also join the FullcontrolSEO forum for a small fee and learn from there or just browse the forum a lot and use the search function, there is plenty of information available for free here.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by falcott

How about building a blog network using Web 2.0 properties? You don't need to invest in domains or SEO hosting. Also they are high PR.

No, they are not high PR. They are PR 0 and PR n/a.

Originally Posted by run

I heard that building private blog networks is very cost consuming because we must use SEO hosting and normal hosting each with different hosting.

Originally Posted by falcott

Yes, it can be quite costly, not only for the domains that you must purchase, but because of the hosting.

First, you should never, ever sign up with an SEO host. Second, hosting is the least expensive part of maintaining a private network.

Originally Posted by falcott

Good point. I was actually thinking of acquiring expired domains with PR 2-4 from Godaddy for around $10 plus fees each, which I've done. Sorry I didn't express myself fully.

You will almost never find a PR 4 on Godaddy for $10. Oh, there are plenty of domains in the TDNAM that show up as PR 4, but 99.9% are fake PR. The other 0.1% get snatched up pretty quickly. PR 2's and 3's you will find a few, but again the majority are fake. If you do not know what you are doing, you will probably end up wasting a lot of money.

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squadron

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Entrepreneur830

... would you suggest building a private blog network instead?

I suggest you build you own little network and:

1. Don't interlink the blogs
2. Install different themes and plugins if you can (assuming Wordpress sites)
3. Put unique content and images on each blog, not just scraped and spun content.
4. Build a few links into each site using decent blog comments from strong PR pages.

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jaytron3000

11 years ago

Developing a handful of web 2.0 properties with some decent, unique, and relevant content and blasting these with automated 2nd tier and social bookmarking links has worked well for a lot of folks lately, pretty inexpensive too.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

All I know is that the ONLY people I'll talk to about private networks are Mike Friedman and Mike Anthony.

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typoo999

11 years ago

If you have the budged, then go and create your own quality network. If you don't have budget, don't go with public networks because they won't help long-term, they will just mark your site as a target to slap in Google's eyes.

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danielph

11 years ago

Well you need to invest some money for sure, if you want to archieve great results

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FranksToys

11 years ago

Id say join a private network that is indeed private and not heavily advertised. I am part of a network and I have seen great results, Ive been with them for about two years and not a single website has ever been deindexed. Thats tough with Googles notoroius crackdowns these days.

However its totally private and only on a referral basis, try and find something like that if you can. It does take a bit of looking but well worth it in the long run.

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josephkevin

11 years ago

Originally Posted by FranksToys

Id say join a private network that is indeed private and not heavily advertised. I am part of a network and I have seen great results, Ive been with them for about two years and not a single website has ever been deindexed. Thats tough with Googles notoroius crackdowns these days.

However its totally private and only on a referral basis, try and find something like that if you can. It does take a bit of looking but well worth it in the long run.

can you pm me this private blog please?

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BadMab

11 years ago

OP - build your own pr network. If you don't know how pm me and we can work something out.

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DPM70

11 years ago

Limekyln is giving it all away for free. (Maybe not all haha). Squadron is giving the rest of it out. Two posts in this thread basically will make you money when used wisely. (Make that three because Mike F's words are also sound as a pound). What else do you need? Act on it.

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Bambu

11 years ago

You can setup your own private blog network pretty easily once you know how it is done. In addition, if you want to add web 2.0s to your network for diversity, you can use scrape box to find abandoned Tumblr blogs with PR (pretty easy to find PR 3s and 4s).

Check my signature for free info on finding expired domains and setting up your own private blog network.

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Hansons

11 years ago

Private blog network and Guest blogging, these two are performing good these days.

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Gareth Mailer

11 years ago

Anyone with a half-decent PRIVATE blog network you probably won't know about.

Anyone with a crap PUBLIC blog network you will know too much about.

^^ such is the nature of the industry

Seriously, it takes work, and cash...I'm building at the speed of light, it's great fun, it works brilliantly, providing you get it right. And in this area of "work"/SEO, there are about a hundred ways to fall flat on your ass. Read first, get to understand everything, then do it. Or find someone nice enough to let you join there's (after signing an NDA, going through airport-style ID checks and basically swearing to secrecy

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Gareth Mailer

Or find someone nice enough to let you join there's (after signing an NDA, going through airport-style ID checks and basically swearing to secrecy ).

You don't require a colonoscopy?

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- Gareth Mailer 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  You don't require a colonoscopy?
  
  Amatuer
  
  No, that's for when they use spammy anchor text and try to submit spun content - it's followed up by the most severe of all punishments: a serious finger pointing.
  
  Side note, I actually got my developer guy to upload the dev site (client interface) for accessing some of the network today - doesn't have any functionality behind it yet but still... #EXCITED.
  
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  rjames 11 years ago
  
  Building PR networks is extremely powerful, well worth it, and easy...go that route imo...PM me and I'll send you what i do...
  
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manishak

11 years ago

I have quite a few websites, though they are not related to each other niche-wise. So, can I use these to create my own private blog network? Can I just, for example, post articles on 'movies' on a blog about 'eye-glasses'? Will that be relevant?

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bolocancristian

11 years ago

How about building a blog network using Web 2.0 properties? You don't need to invest in domains or SEO hosting. Also they are high PR. About a year ago I joined a private blog network and was shocked at the unreadable re-spun rubbish that was being posted alongside my posts. I'm not sure if that would do me any favors. So I started using Web 2.0, which I think has more credibility and is cheaper.

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MikeFriedman 11 years ago

Originally Posted by bolocancristian

How about building a blog network using Web 2.0 properties? You don't need to invest in domains or SEO hosting. Also they are high PR.

They are not high PR. They are PR 0.
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Alexgw

11 years ago

I am with the idea of creating your own blog network instead of joining other network to avoid any possible detection by Google. Use web 2.0 platforms to aid your private network and never disclose it to anyone.

I heard that building private blog networks is very cost consuming because we must use SEO hosting and normal hosting each with different hosting.

Yea, we should pick different hosting with different class C IP address. If you host all the blogs on a private network in same hosting place, Google will find it easily.

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gas

11 years ago

If you actually build up your network of sites the right way I take it they should then produce their own leads and traffic so how do you monetize your blog networks and avoid leaving any footprints?

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rjames

11 years ago

Originally Posted by gas

If you actually build up your network of sites the right way I take it they should then produce their own leads and traffic so how do you monetize your blog networks and avoid leaving any footprints?

the blog network does nothing for you in terms of monetization...and you dont want it to...the network is simply used to send links to your money site and shoot you to the first page of google...

host all PR sites on their own class C IP...different hosting company than your money site...never link PR sites together...and never link money sites together...private register your PR sites and make them all look different....thats about it...trust me...this will keep you out of the algo and google doest care about your small little PR network enough to check you out manually...

PM me if you want more details...

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