Roughly how much would it cost to get on the 1st page of google for "Make Money Online"

mikemeth

11 years ago

That would be extremelly hard imo, maybe few tens of thousands

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John Rogers

11 years ago

Instead of spending your time on something that is likely unattainable in the foreseeable future, why don't you spend your time on things that will actually generate income soon?

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timrodriguez

11 years ago

Because i have that money right now. If i create a good offer with value, and get on page 1 for "make money online", do you think thats a viable route?

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butters 11 years ago

Originally Posted by timrodriguez

Because i have that money right now. If i create a good offer with value, and get on page 1 for "make money online", do you think thats a viable route?

If being the important word right now... People who go after such general terms will have a strategy put in place which will maximise there profits from it. They would of done a ton of research before investing in such a venture, opposed to throwing money and hoping for it. If you look at here in the UK, the term "make money online" is targeted at students and people giving real crap information on how to slap up a blog/fill in a survey. Why wouldn't you go after a "targeted" market? Your ROI will most like be a lot bigger by breaking it down and focusing on something specific.

What I suggest is, work on the website in your sig before you consider investing huge amounts of money on a fairytale.
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- Maecenas23 11 years ago
  
  There are xxxx more keywords which are easier to rank and able to generate bigger profits
  
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  timrodriguez 11 years ago
  
  sounds good, appreciate the advice
  
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Richard Mortimer 11 years ago

Originally Posted by timrodriguez

Because i have that money right now. If i create a good offer with value, and get on page 1 for "make money online", do you think thats a viable route?

Hmmm, Tim. That's a pretty BIG term, and there's lots of things against you making it.

1. Google seems to be targeting IM keywords and not listing what they should be.
(See V Schenk's keyword tool launched as a WSO a few days ago - now sold out)!

2. Its a lot of work and you can't guarantee you'll get to page 1. And, even if you make it to page 1, you need to be top 3 to make it worth it. If position 1 is an authority site (i.e. Google lists inner pages), then position 2 and 3 traffic drops right off!

3. No. 1 at the moment is a YT video (in UK). Also, an Amazon product is listed lower down
(proving what I said in point 1).

4. You still have to create a 'targeted' funnel to get people in. Preferably via a squeeze page. I managed to get a squeeze page straight onto page 1 with one tactic for the term 'internet website traffic.' But, I can't see that happening for 'make money online.'

5. The traffic listed in Google's keyword tool is woefully unreliable. 'Internet website traffic' was quoted at 1,000s, but in reality its more like 40pm!

There are much better and easier ways of building an online business, than what you are proposing. For example: do a massive campaign of WSO launches!

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gabibeowulf

11 years ago

Originally Posted by timrodriguez

Because i have that money right now. If i create a good offer with value, and get on page 1 for "make money online", do you think thats a viable route?

Tim, it does not work like this. For instance, Google hates sell pages. How many offers have you seen in serps for make money online?

Google prefers to rank websites that are established and trusted. Forums, blogs, videos.. Also, targeting a moving target is not smart. Thousands and thousands of new webmasters launch new sites and videos each month trying to dethrone the first 10 results and if you monitored the results over the couple of months or years you'll actually see that the lifespan of the top 10 results is not that long.

So, what would you do if you really really want the traffic coming from this query?

Well.. my best advice is to actually negotiate and buy ad spots from people already ranking in the first page or try to buy one of the sites ranking on pages 2 - 4 and then try ranking it further by analyzing the backlinks of the first page results with a program like ahrefs or opensiteexplorer.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by gabibeowulf

Tim, it does not work like this. For instance, Google hates sell pages. How many offers have you seen in serps for make money online?

Google prefers to rank websites that are established and trusted. Forums, blogs, videos.. Also, targeting a moving target is not smart. Thousands and thousands of new webmasters launch new sites and videos each month trying to dethrone the first 10 results and if you monitored the results over the couple of months or years you'll actually see that the lifespan of the top 10 results is not that long.

So, what would you do if you really really want the traffic coming from this query?

Well.. my best advice is to actually negotiate and buy ad spots from people already ranking in the first page or try to buy one of the sites ranking on pages 2 - 4 and then try ranking it further by analyzing the backlinks of the first page results with a program like ahrefs or opensiteexplorer.

-Gabriel

Actually that's some pretty good advice.

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Dustin Lyle 11 years ago

Don't listen to all this SEO hype... Think about it, How many people say "i can get you top 10"... Well what if you had 10 different websites, and you paid a different SEO service for each one. What would happen? Everybody can't get on the first page for certain keywords, and everybody can't get to #1. There can only be one #1 for any specific keyword. And the "first page" is crap, Conversion for each spot under #1 loses 45% every position down to infinite.

SEO works for general mechanics, being found with Long Tail Keywords and such... But to get the page or the top spot.. It has only to do with the money.

Google is a publicly traded company, which means their first (and only) priority is the best interest of their share-holders. MONEY. Which means, if you have the MONEY, then you get the spot. PERIOD. I can go right now, pick a single keyword, Place an adsense ad for that keyword, and YES, point it to a squeeze page or sales letter etc... They don't give a sheeeet. So long as I have the high bid for the spot, then I get the spot. If I'm having problems getting the spot I'm paying high-bid for, then I call them and get it worked out manually.

Take it for what its worth... I know ALOT of people spending 100k's a year with google.

Sorry to all those people purveying SEO services, but the industry is a fraud in itself. At least REALLY REALLY misrepresented.
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Brandon Tanner 11 years ago

Getting to the first page for a competitive keyword is one thing. Staying there (for any significant amount of time) is a whole 'nother story, especially post Panda/Penguin.

You may or may not ever accomplish the latter, regardless of how much time or money you spend trying. If you monitor the search results for competitive keywords over the long-term, you'll see that the results are always changing.

That's just how Google rolls these day... which is why I don't rely on them for any of my traffic anymore.
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KingMedia

11 years ago

It's not a lucrative term as you might think - just cause in the "IM" world it is considered a goldmine - it really is a newb seeker keyword and too general to actually make money from as your site will not be the 1st nor last stop in their search.

But to answer your question, you will need a good chunk lot of money and sneaky backlinking methods to get there plus a lot of "content" spread about in a positive way.

Hard to give you an exact number, too many variables - but way into the thousands...

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napoleonfirst

11 years ago

You could be no.1 today if you Adwords and start a ppc camping targeting on that keyword in exact match. You can also buy a site in the top 5 and get the traffic right away.

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drewfioravanti

11 years ago

If you have the money, you are better off hiring a guru to do everything for you.

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Rbtmarshall

11 years ago

$2.06 is the suggested bid for make money online in google keyword tool contextual targeting

That's the best way to assure a top spot.

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Fazal Mayar

11 years ago

I think it's not that important to rank for make money online. Build some good recurring traffic that's not just about SEO and google. I would think there is way too much competition for '' make money online ''.

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SurrealPSD

11 years ago

No disrespect Tim, but you should get your header banner sorted out ASAP. Something for the here and now that will immediately affect your sites traffic

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khooster1

11 years ago

Targeting more long tailed keywords is a better strategy. The total searches might be more than Making money online. Yet much easier to rank. Do consider this.

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Dustin Lyle 11 years ago

I know someone who ranks top 5 on google for the term "social media agency"... I'll let you take your guess at which one of the five... They spend between 10 and 12 grand per month with google.

Long story short... Calls from corporate prospects come in daily, and they sell services with a 10k retainer- All day every day.

Seeing as "make money online" doesn't target a "corporate" account, you couldn't really expect to get those numbers per client... But you could get ALOT of $99.00 customers. Whats the difference? A customer requires "customer support"... Which COULD be outsourced.

Final thought....

YES! I believe that if you got the #1 spot, given the 110,000 global monthly and the CTR on Google SERP being around 18%, that comes to 19,800 "clicks". "free" offer conversion @ 20% is 3,960 E-mail contacts...

3,960 eager people EVERY MONTH (lets say 3,500 accounting for unsubs)

10,500 @ 90 days

10,500 with an average subscription so far being 45 days.

Introduced to a single $20.00 product each day.

1/2 % converts to a sale (or 1 in 200)

$47,250 <<---- ?Maybe?

This is called spreadsheet magic.. I can make it say whatever I want... But the truth is that to know the REAL result, would mean taking REAL action to get that #1 spot. You could know all about SEO and that means zilch, the REAL truth is that to GOOGLE, The spot is in the MONEY. Get GOOGLE on the phone and tell that ad guy exactly what you want, I GUARANTEE they make you an offer so long as you have a valid CC with a limit somewhere close to heaven.

Dustin
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imlogic

11 years ago

it will take roughly 3 months and around 10 grand... and 1 grand a month to keep it.

It will however shuffle back even after you achieve to position.

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Dustin Lyle 11 years ago

The fact still remains that there is an auction in place every single time someone makes a search... Every time. SEO simply multiplies or targets which auctions a site is taking place in. When a query is made that doesn't command any type of premium for prime real estate, the non-paying but most relavent (SEO'ed) destinations are what comes up...

But ya better believe that if someone is paying a premium for a specific word or words then they will get it EVERY TIME... So long as they are paying.

And another misconception most people feel good about for no real good reason. Getting the #1 on google with hyper-long or extremely non competitive or made up words... This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen..

If you make up a company, I dunno, lets call it... "Aquarzium" Got the EMD and posted some content with the name riddled slightly throught the content... Then you say "I want the top search result for "Aquarzium". After submitting a sitemap and getting crawled. Then your friend says this....

"no shit! omg bro your in the #1 spot on GOOOOGLE!"
Or better, your caught around town dropping the line "google my company"..

The reason is that your the ONLY place on the entire internet that is relevant to that specific term/name/phrase.

Fact is, google is a company, publicly traded, with an explicit obligation to chase the dollar. And if a customer is willing to pay for a spot, and instead, google placed a non-paying page there just because they did massive SEO... Well that just wouldn't be right. Especially due to the fact that there is an auction going on. If you want the prime real estate, you have to pay a premium. period.
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Make Money Ninja

11 years ago

I could do it for under $1000. But it would not be my own site.

Would be youtube, or amazon or something like that.

And it would not be long term sustainaible...

If i go for this term... ill probably make a book called "make money online"... and then send all the links to that.

It will rank page 1 a million times easier than ranking a new domain or even a semi old domain.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

It could probably be ranked with 7,458 fiverr gigs.

[j/k]

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kayode10

11 years ago

Originally Posted by timrodriguez

I know "Make Money Online" is probably extremely competitive and extremely difficult to get on the first page. But how much do you think it would cost to pay to get on the first page of google for those keywords?

it is obvious that it is extremely hard to rank first for that keyword, but if it is what you are planning to do, i would ask that why don't you focus on ranking for less competitive niche under this keyword, but if you insist on the price to rank for the keyword, to my calculation it my cost you 6 figures and SEO expert of more than decade of practical experience. Hope this helps.

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n0tr3v3

11 years ago

My few cents would be to forget about that keyword and focus on keywords that are more targeted, like;

make money online with ppc
make money online as an affiliate
make money as a blogger
etc.

In this line of work targeted keywords or long tailed keyword does and will always convert A LOT BETTER.

Also if you search long enough through the google keyword tool, there is no doubt that you can't find similar keywords with less competition and adequate traffic.

And Don't Set Unrealistic Goals Because Time Is Money.

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TotalWebsiteControl

11 years ago

It will cost exactly $57,823.78

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higherluv

11 years ago

Originally Posted by timrodriguez

I know "Make Money Online" is probably extremely competitive and extremely difficult to get on the first page. But how much do you think it would cost to pay to get on the first page of google for those keywords?

Do you actually want to do this, or are you just curious?

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Curtis2011

11 years ago

Originally Posted by timrodriguez

But how much do you think it would cost to pay to get on the first page of google for those keywords?

Simple answer: Ain't gonna happen.

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Roughly how much would it cost to get on the 1st page of google for "Make Money Online"

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