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[Basic Guide] How To Rank a Youtube Video

by johnnyd77
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Hi guys,

I thought I could share something usefull in this community, since its been a long time since I didnt share anything with you. This thread is mainly for the youtube marketers, and for those who want to get started in video marketing.

Basically, youtube is one of the most visited site, and as a matter of facts, is a great place to find targeted visitors to your website/squeezepage/salespage/ect.

Getting ranked fast

Here are the basic things. I'll come up with more specifif stuff later in the post.
-Your title must contains your KW
-Your description must contains your KW
-Your tags must contains your KW

You can use the youtube keywords tool to know how many searches your KW got on YT. Link : https://ads.youtube.com/keyword_tool

Since the last algo...

Since the last Youtube patch, its getting now harder to rank and to keep videos alive more than 2-3 days. In facts, YT now detect a lot of fake views, which make us, marketers, more struggling to rank our videos.

The secret is now to buy retention views. So if you want to rank, I highly suggest you to make a little research on the web, and aim for 80% rentention or more. If you buy 50 000 views, but only 3-4 seconds long, it wont help your ranking. You get the picture now.

From a backlinks point of view, lets just say that the typical web 2.0 backlink doesnt help as much as it did in the past. I'm personally using manual bookmark to each of my video and it helps a bit. But keep in mind that your main weapon is definitly high retention views.

In brief..
Dont forget to add likes, subscriber and to drop a few comments on other people video, it helps to gain trust and authority. Aim for quality views, and create couple backlinks and you should be on your way to rank. Just with basic onpage SEO, I manage to rank my video in top 20-30 on YT.

Anyways, didnt wanted to come up with such a long thread, but I think it could definitly helps some people here, especially since the last Youtube update.

Cheers,

JD77
#basic #guide #rank #video #youtube #youtube seo
  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    IMO, "high retention" views are the same as any other bot view. Meaning, too many of them will probably do more harm than good in the long run.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnnyd77
      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      IMO, "high retention" views are the same as any other bot view. Meaning, too many of them will probably do more harm than good in the long run.
      Honestly, as we speack, I dont have any issue. It's all about time views now. You can have 50 000 views, like I said, but only 3-4 sec per views, you wont get anywhere. If its 50 000 mins of views, then you'll rank higher.

      Just from my experience,

      JD77
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Well I don't know. I've been ranking videos on youtube for the last 6 months. I haven't changed anything in my technique in the last 6 months, and all my videos still rank. I do not focus on viewer retention as much as I focus on overall views/likes/subscribers/comments and backlinks.

    That formula seems to win every time for the niche I'm in.

    Here is something else I noticed however. Getting a 20,000 views in 1 day, has nowhere near the effect of getting 20,000 views in 2 months.

    All my videos where I got the views drip fed, for a long period of time, would wind up with a pr of around 4. All the videos I blasted really quick, would wind up with half the pr (2). In the end however, all the videos ranked. Because I was getting more views/likes/sucribers/comments/backlinks than all of my competitors. And in the end, if your video is well optimized, thats all that really matters imo.

    edit: BTW, the gig I order says that the views are not botted, but natural, so maybe that helps too. All I know is its the best gig I've ever found on fiver, and has always worked for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnnyd77
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      Well I don't know. I've been ranking videos on youtube for the last 6 months. I haven't changed anything in my technique in the last 6 months, and all my videos still rank. I do not focus on viewer retention as much as I focus on overall views/likes/subscribers/comments and backlinks.

      That formula seems to win every time for the niche I'm in.

      Here is something else I noticed however. Getting a 20,000 views in 1 day, has nowhere near the effect of getting 20,000 views in 2 months.

      All my videos where I got the views drip fed, for a long period of time, would wind up with a pr of around 4. All the videos I blasted really quick, would wind up with half the pr (2). In the end however, all the videos ranked. Because I was getting more views/likes/sucribers/comments/backlinks than all of my competitors. And in the end, if your video is well optimized, thats all that really matters imo.

      edit: BTW, the gig I order says that the views are not botted, but natural, so maybe that helps too. All I know is its the best gig I've ever found on fiver, and has always worked for me.
      Do you know whats your average view lenght in %?

      I've never tried the drip feeded views. I'll give it a try, my new video wil be ready tomorrow.

      What kind of backlinks to you create ? I had success with social backlinks in the past, but for now, it seems that its not as strong as it was.

      Cheers,

      JD77
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Ok I just checked for one of my channels and average retention is 16 seconds. Thats honestly the first time I've ever checked.

    The important part to me is that we get calls once we're ranking, regardless of avg viewer retention.

    I like drip feeding because it just seems more natural to me. This it the guy I've been using for that:

    Djlobo will deliver 20000 slow real human youtube views and 50+ likes and 30 custom comments and 100+ subscribers and 30+ favorites to your videos for $5, only on fiverr.com

    (he undersells himself, because my videos persistently wind up with 40,000-60,000 views, and around 200 likes, usually after about 6 weeks [some gigs finish in a month, others finish in 2 months])

    The reason I use that gig is simply because its produced the best results for me. One of the first videos he ever helped me rank, got on the first page of google and got us a call from CBS, which then got us on tv.

    Ever since then I was hooked on youtube and that gig.

    For my backlinks, after the video is done/optimized, this is what I use:

    http://linksoar.com/index.php?ready (46 backlinks)
    http://backlinks.auto-im.com/freepack/free.php (200k backlinks)
    http://tycoos.com/ (5000)
    http://freebacklinktool.com/ (500)
    http://247backlinks.info/ (1000)
    http://www.imtalk.org/cmps_index.php?pageid=IMT-Website-Submitter (2,500)
    http://www.indexkings.com (15,000)

    (Links not showing up cause I C&P'd from a word doc rather than going through all my bookmarks - just C&P into your browser).

    Now, don't get me wrong, I rarely use all of them.

    What I usually do is the IMT website submitter and the 200k pack.
    Afterwards, I order my fiver gig.

    Then half way through the fiver gig (2-3 weeks in) I do a scrapebox blast.
    For more competitive videos, I'll use all of the above + socialmarker.com and 2 massive scrapebox blasts. But most of the time my keywords aren't that competitive (between 2,000-8,000 searches a month on google).

    I noticed the backlinks-auto-im site has been down for a while, and I always used that site so I'm hoping its back up soon.

    Anyway, thats where I get my links from. I always outsource the views/likes/subscribers/comments then do all the backlinking myself. It should go without being said, but I never use any of these tools for my money site. I do link my YT videos to my money site, but most people call directly from the videos, and a much smaller % go to the website to leave a message. Thats cause I push our number in our videos more than our site.

    So far, it works near perfect, as long as I don't target super competitive keywords. YT is a beast when used properly, and you could run a small business off it if you targeted enough keywords imo.

    Hope that helps - Red
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    • Profile picture of the author Jrivera680
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      Ok I just checked for one of my channels and average retention is 16 seconds. Thats honestly the first time I've ever checked.

      The important part to me is that we get calls once we're ranking, regardless of avg viewer retention.

      I like drip feeding because it just seems more natural to me. This it the guy I've been using for that:

      Djlobo will deliver 20000 slow real human youtube views and 50+ likes and 30 custom comments and 100+ subscribers and 30+ favorites to your videos for $5, only on fiverr.com

      (he undersells himself, because my videos persistently wind up with 40,000-60,000 views, and around 200 likes, usually after about 6 weeks [some gigs finish in a month, others finish in 2 months])

      The reason I use that gig is simply because its produced the best results for me. One of the first videos he ever helped me rank, got on the first page of google and got us a call from CBS, which then got us on tv.

      Ever since then I was hooked on youtube and that gig.

      For my backlinks, after the video is done/optimized, this is what I use:

      http://linksoar.com/index.php?ready (46 backlinks)
      http://backlinks.auto-im.com/freepack/free.php (200k backlinks)
      http://tycoos.com/ (5000)
      http://freebacklinktool.com/ (500)
      http://247backlinks.info/ (1000)
      http://www.imtalk.org/cmps_index.php?pageid=IMT-Website-Submitter (2,500)
      http://www.indexkings.com (15,000)

      (Links not showing up cause I C&P'd from a word doc rather than going through all my bookmarks - just C&P into your browser).

      Now, don't get me wrong, I rarely use all of them.

      What I usually do is the IMT website submitter and the 200k pack.
      Afterwards, I order my fiver gig.

      Then half way through the fiver gig (2-3 weeks in) I do a scrapebox blast.
      For more competitive videos, I'll use all of the above + socialmarker.com and 2 massive scrapebox blasts. But most of the time my keywords aren't that competitive (between 2,000-8,000 searches a month on google).

      I noticed the backlinks-auto-im site has been down for a while, and I always used that site so I'm hoping its back up soon.

      Anyway, thats where I get my links from. I always outsource the views/likes/subscribers/comments then do all the backlinking myself. It should go without being said, but I never use any of these tools for my money site. I do link my YT videos to my money site, but most people call directly from the videos, and a much smaller % go to the website to leave a message. Thats cause I push our number in our videos more than our site.

      So far, it works near perfect, as long as I don't target super competitive keywords. YT is a beast when used properly, and you could run a small business off it if you targeted enough keywords imo.

      Hope that helps - Red
      For some reason linksoar.com will not let submit my youtube URL for submission
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    I follow pretty similar backlinking methods when it comes to YT. I would never send these types of links to my main site, but they still seem to help when it comes to YT videos. (I doubt this will always be the case though.)
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    • Profile picture of the author johnnyd77
      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      I follow pretty similar backlinking methods when it comes to YT. I would never send these types of links to my main site, but they still seem to help when it comes to YT videos. (I doubt this will always be the case though.)
      I wonder if the backlinks help that much tho.

      I'm actually tetsing a video without any backlinks.

      I'll report the ranking in couple of weeks.
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by johnnyd77 View Post

        I wonder if the backlinks help that much tho.

        I'm actually tetsing a video without any backlinks.

        I'll report the ranking in couple of weeks.
        As far as ranking in the search engines or YouTube itself? Backlinks definitely help when it comes to ranking videos in Google. And yes, in my experience, the lower quality links still work. Not a fan of them myself. And I'm pretty sure they'll stop working eventually. But as of right now they still seem to work.
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        • Profile picture of the author johnnyd77
          Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

          As far as ranking in the search engines or YouTube itself? Backlinks definitely help when it comes to ranking videos in Google. And yes, in my experience, the lower quality links still work. Not a fan of them myself. And I'm pretty sure they'll stop working eventually. But as of right now they still seem to work.
          I'M just talking about Youtube Itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author asiriusthoth
    I run a few monetized youtube channels and the best way for us to rank a video is:
    • 5,500 30+ second retention views
    • 2,000 relevant backlinks
    • 100 subscribers to channel
    • 25 comments
    • 15 likes
    • ... add in social networking backinks (Twitter, FB, etc..)
    • .... and *NOT* do it all at once.
    This usually brings in a good rank within 1 week, and as long as we keep continually (slowly) building the video up; it stays
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