Why Did Google PageRank Update Drop My PR?

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

More than a month ago, I bought quite a few (100+) backlinks from high PR (9, 8, 7, 6, ...) pages in a mix of blogroll, guest post, forum comment, profile, etc.

But it shocked me today when I find my site's homepage PR was dropped by 1. It's a fresh domain I registered and built from scratch for more than 2 years, not one that's traded on the market.

Does anyone have similar experience? How do you explain this and what should I do for the next PR update?

Sorry. But nobody is selling 100+ backlinks from real PR 9, 8, 7 pages. They are probably fake PR. You bought 100+ PR 0 backlinks most likely.

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sweetdreamfactory Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Sorry. But nobody is selling 100+ backlinks from real PR 9, 8, 7 pages. They are probably fake PR. You bought 100+ PR 0 backlinks most likely.

Yes, I agree. I don't think you can build backlinks to PR 9, 8, 7.. Quite unbelievable. You were surely fooled by that. You must have checked the services before you purchased that.
Google hates anything blackhat.
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Tristan Gemus

11 years ago

Those links are blackhat which Google does not like and therefore you were penalized.

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kaytav

11 years ago

Definitely the links are on a fake PR site. If you would have links on genuine PR-7,8,9 then your PR would have increased greatly.

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ilee

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Tristan Gemus

Those links are blackhat which Google does not like and therefore you were penalized.

Originally Posted by kaytav

Definitely the links are on a fake PR site. If you would have links on genuine PR-7,8,9 then your PR would have increased greatly.

Lol, no. Links don't have to have been black hat or fake pr sites. The seller has just pulled a fast one on OP and probably used the homepage PR. You basically just got 100 pr 0 pr N/A links which are near worthless. Hope you didn't pay too much for it.

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jxam69

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ichl13

Lol, no. Links don't have to have been black hat or fake pr sites. The seller has just pulled a fast one on OP and probably used the homepage PR. You basically just got 100 pr 0 pr N/A links which are near worthless. Hope you didn't pay too much for it.

I've even seen a fiverr gig selling PR7 backlinks where he was talking about PR of the homepage, and the actual pages with the links were profile pages that had NOINDEX set!

This isn't just scamming the noobs - it's outright criminal fraud! (IMHO)

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JSProjects

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

More than a month ago, I bought quite a few (100+) backlinks from high PR (9, 8, 7, 6, ...) pages in a mix of blogroll, guest post, forum comment, profile, etc.

But it shocked me today when I find my site's homepage PR was dropped by 1. It's a fresh domain I registered and built from scratch for more than 2 years, not one that's traded on the market.

Does anyone have similar experience? How do you explain this and what should I do for the next PR update?

As a few others have said, you most likely bought PR N/A or 0 links from domains with PR. There's still so many people that claim a link from a page within a PR6 domain, for example, is a PR6 link. It's not. It's most likely a PR0 or PR N/A link.

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dreamtoreality

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

More than a month ago, I bought quite a few (100+) backlinks from high PR (9, 8, 7, 6, ...) pages in a mix of blogroll, guest post, forum comment, profile, etc.

But it shocked me today when I find my site's homepage PR was dropped by 1. It's a fresh domain I registered and built from scratch for more than 2 years, not one that's traded on the market.

Does anyone have similar experience? How do you explain this and what should I do for the next PR update?

Please do tell us who us you bought the links off.

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jerryji

11 years ago

Thanks for all your reply. The links I bought are for their actual page PR (well, some did drop as the result of the current Google PR update, but not every one of them), e.g. --

Latest Information and News » HairDesignTV (PR7 as of today, 300 OBL)

I've even seen PR10 (yes, 10!) pages with crappy content, does anybody know how they got such high PR? While there is definitely blackhat SER penalty, I wonder there is PR penalty.

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Marc_L

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

Thanks for all your reply. The links I bought are for their actual page PR (well, some did drop as the result of the current Google PR update, but not every one of them), e.g. --

Latest Information and News » HairDesignTV (PR7 as of today, 300 OBL)

I've even seen PR10 (yes, 10!) pages with crappy content, does anybody know how they got such high PR? While there is definitely blackhat SER penalty, I wonder there is PR penalty.

Even if the PR was legit you'd have very little PR left with all of those blogroll links on the page. Did you see any SERP increase when you got those links?

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

Thanks for all your reply. The links I bought are for their actual page PR (well, some did drop as the result of the current Google PR update, but not every one of them), e.g. --

Latest Information and News » HairDesignTV (PR7 as of today, 300 OBL)

That site is not a real PR 7. All you have to do is pull the backlinks and you can see that pretty quickly.

Originally Posted by jerryji

I've even seen PR10 (yes, 10!) pages with crappy content, does anybody know how they got such high PR?

Content has nothing to do with PR. Facebook is a PR 9 and has crappy content.

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Marc_L 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

That site is not a real PR 7. All you have to do is pull the backlinks and you can see that pretty quickly.

What? Those "online casinos" links are prime baby.
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jerryji

11 years ago

@MikeFriedman, you mean analyze the hairdesigntv.info 's backlink with tools such as majesticseo? Right, the site doesn't have that many great backlinks, but how does that make its PR _fake_? After all, do links on pages with "fake PR" not carry the same link juice as their "real" counterpart?

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

@MikeFriedman, you mean analyze the hairdesigntv.info 's backlink with tools such as majesticseo? Right, the site doesn't have that many great backlinks, but how does that make its PR _fake_? After all, do links on pages with "fake PR" not carry the same link juice as their "real" counterpart?

Sites with "fake PR" do not carry the same link juice as their "real" counterpart. Google does not see "fake PR". They see the real PR. Only the PR toolbar sees the faked PR. There are a bunch of ways to fake it.

Basically, you have a PR 0 or PR 1 link there.

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linkassistant 11 years ago

Originally Posted by jerryji

Latest Information and News » HairDesignTV (PR7 as of today, 300 OBL)

jerryji, this page looks like a classic link farm. Just look at the websites it is linking to. They are no more related to one another than a space aircraft is related to potato peel.

Besides, the site has horrible "content", articles in English and Dutch mixed together. Well, this is just what is revealed at first sight. I'm sure if one dug deeper, even shadier things would surface.
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satriasaka

11 years ago

maybe you submit into fake PR sosbook

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jaisonjohn

11 years ago

Please cross check the backlinks that you are getting for your website and list out all the low quality backlinks in a notepad, from which you can know that why Google had penalized your Page Rank.

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Marc_L

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jaisonjohn

Please cross check the backlinks that you are getting for your website and list out all the low quality backlinks in a notepad, from which you can know that why Google had penalized your Page Rank.

Google doesn't "penalize" PR, they adjust it according to your backlinks and the amount of PR that is "leaking" through out your internal/external links.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Most probably he bought links from PR7+ domains and not pR7+ pages, same like all the crappy profile links that everyone is selling.

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dalegolden

11 years ago

If you have got the backlinks report, check if your backlinks are from real PR9, 8, 7, 6 pages or not. Or they are just some crappy profile links with a URL of your site.

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redchillies

11 years ago

There was a recent page rank update dated February 3rd. The values are usually updated four times a year. If you have Google Toolbar you will see it. If it is not showing on the Google Toolbar, just pick it from the icon options list.

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superdubaus

11 years ago

Google updated its latest page rank on 4th Feb 2013. In this update many sites got higher page rank while some of them got down. Google update their page rank quarterly. You try for next time. Hope you would get high pr next time.

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HzCy

11 years ago

Google never holds a PR forever. It will calculate new after every update, so you cant track it and see what affects the PR.
My has fallen from 5 to 1, but then again to 4. Its a normal process.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HzCy

Google never holds a PR forever. It will calculate new after every update

That's not true. They are calculating the PR of a site constantly. They only give us a snapshot of what the PR of a site is every now and then. PR does not change on "PR update day" though. It is just showing us what it is at that time.

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Marc_L

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

That's not true. They are calculating the PR of a site constantly. They only give us a snapshot of what the PR of a site is every now and then. PR does not change on "PR update day" though. It is just showing us what it is at that time.

Sort of a quibble Mike. The toolbar PR of a site is only calculated a few times a year. Although you are correct that the "hidden" PR is updated constantly as links are created or get deleted. In other words, the value of a link from a site isn't based upon the toolbar PR of a page and it stays the same until "update day". It's constantly moving and being updated as new links are found or links are being removed.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Marc_L

Sort of a quibble Mike. The toolbar PR of a site is only calculated a few times a year. Although you are correct that the "hidden" PR is updated constantly as links are created or get deleted. In other words, the value of a link from a site isn't based upon the toolbar PR of a page and it stays the same until "update day". It's constantly moving and being updated as new links are found or links are being removed.

Well, if you want to really get into an argument over semantics on this, I would argue that it is only "released" a few times a year, not calculated a few times a year.

But in the end, we are basically saying the same thing.

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Marc_L

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Well, if you want to really get into an argument over semantics on this, I would argue that it is only "released" a few times a year, not calculated a few times a year.

But in the end, we are basically saying the same thing.

No thanks haha :p

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