what google wants after number of frwuently updations?

You're asking what works for SEO and what Google wants... yet promoting your SEO business pkgs at the same time? Seriously???

And don't forget he's an SEO Champ - it says so in his name! Honestly - this place is becoming a waste of space "spam central". Backing out again. Bye.

Well, their updations probably would need one to put an updatation on
their sig from xmas...

Paul

Google just wants us to keep all of us busy. :-)

Nobody knows what Google want.... just try real marketing for SEO and Traffic..

oh the irony!

I was simply pointing out the ridiculousness of your argument. On one hand, you are advocating a "natural" backlink profile. On the other, you are selling the type of links that were largely responsible for over 750,000 webmasters receiving "unnatural link" notices from Google in 2011. Profile links are anything but "natural".

I was attacking the idea that a "natural" backlink profile includes profile links.

Hi Julia,
Your package says, you will submit 1 article to 1200 articles. Is that natural?
That would require a lot of spinning, I guess.

This thread is a very interesting learning experience.

I don't know enough about SEO to know whether its justified to be hassling Julia or not. But I do know its not good form to criticize someones gig if you can't prove its been causing problems for people. You can suspect anything you want. But if you're going to make accusations like that, then tell us some important facts to justify your criticism.

For instance:

1) What are the chances her gig will cause an unnatural backlink notice? Have you personally tested the work she does? Have you compared data and analyzed results? Or are you just assuming it will?
Can you validate your criticism with any real data?

I did research for 6 years, and I understand where the vets are coming from. But even if people are getting an unnatural backlink notice, if its less than 5%, thats not considered significant in research, so I'm not sure why its considered so significant here. If you study the trends of pharmaceuticals, drugs get released every single year that risk certain side effects. And most people who take these drugs, aren't even aware of the side effects they cause.

So I view many of the backlink providers on here the same way. People may not like it, but thats the real world for you. To some people its a big deal, to most people, they don't care. Whether they're sheep or not, what use comes of complaining about it all the time? What changes? I don't get it.

2) Even if her gig is causing backlink notices, its still up to the website owner to know what they're getting involved in.

I went to her gig last week, and read through the reviews. I saw a lot of happy customers. The reason I did not order is because many of her services/titles read like gigs on fiver. And that put me into fear mode immediately, so I didn't order.

That was my responsibility to figure out, not hers. Same way a doctor has prescribed me medicine before, and not told me the side effects, I have went right online various times, found out for myself, and flushed the crap down the toilet. Thats my responsibility as a decision making adult. We like to foolishly believe its the doctors responsibility, but not when money comes into the equation. That tends to change everything around.

Most importantly -

For the people calling her a bot, because she leaves the same short, vague replies in a lot of her threads, I have to say this.

There have been MANY threads I have posted, where NO VETS have came in to say a word or help me. And Julia has came in to give me advice. Maybe she was just promoting her sig, or maybe she actually wants to help people. TBPO, I don't really care.

The fact remains that she's helped me many times for free. Even if the advice wasn't "perfect", it was still helpful. I can't say she gives the same caliber of advice that Mike does or Yukon or Niko, but she still makes a good effort. And I see her intentions overall of being positive. I mean lets not forget, even the vets posting on here, a lot of them are doing the same thing she's doing. They're looking for work. And a lot of them have been using this "unnatural link notice" almost as a fear mongering, positioning tactic lately.

TRUST ME, I APPRECIATE THE ADVICE FROM ALL OF YOU. I don't want to get on anyones bad side. But in a world/forum where 99.9% of people are trying to make money.. or build their reputation... who can you really trust?

I only clicked on this thread because after checking my PMs I realized I was slipping in my SEO knowledge as I had no idea what a "frwuently" updations was.

No one has answered the question for me though is it when you do frequent updates fluently or is it a new continuous update algorithm from Google?

Proof there's still a buyers market for junk profile links.

Lol, at the High PR domains, good stuff.

poor Julia, getting the acid treatment.


You are probably a good person IRL, but in reality, you have to expect things like this when you sell services all the while posting stuff that is seemingly contradicting to what you are selling/advising.

To answer your question Red, no I have not ordered any of her gigs to test. I have, however, done plenty of testing on those "types" of links. It would be irresponsible of me as an SEO not to. On top of that, about 80% of the new clients I have taken on since Penguin hit last year, came to me because they were using an "SEO" previously that utilized these types of links and their site got destroyed in the rankings. These clients are not just IM'ers who threw up some made-for-AdSense site. They are real business owners like yourself. I caution against these kind of links because of that. I know of one business that literally had to shutdown and the owner lost their house because of a link provider on this forum (not Julia).

Again though, I'm not trying to target her service. I was pointing out that she was literally arguing against her own service. If, in order to achieve top rankings, one should strive to make a backlink profile look as "natural" as possible, then they should avoid any backlink service that includes profile links as well as EDU/GOV links. Those type of links are doing nothing more than screaming to search engines that you are trying to manipulate your rankings.

Did you make it to Thailand yet?

fixed (I think) . Nothing seedy or racy. I don't roll like that

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