Can a blog roll link to your site hurt rankings?

11 years ago

It won't hurt if you are doing it naturally, if you started doing only blog roll then it would not help and it would harm as well.

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mycongme

11 years ago

There would be many advices regarding this, but better go with legit ways only. Dont try taking risks by buying links from high PR sites.. If you have money to invest, then better hire some link builder and make him work

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zpoll92

11 years ago

It won't harm your site if you are linking naturally. However as mycongme said you'd better hire a link builder to build links for your site.

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sarged2

11 years ago

It could be very likely the dancing.
There is no way a high pr authority links would hurt your website, unless they were manually reviewed by google.
I would advise to wait for 2 WEEKS, since the moment you placed them. Then you should probably see a very huge boost in the ranking, if it's a real PR9, imo.

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dp1993

11 years ago

Originally Posted by sarged2

It could be very likely the dancing.
There is no way a high pr authority links would hurt your website, unless they were manually reviewed by google.
I would advise to wait for 2 WEEKS, since the moment you placed them. Then you should probably see a very huge boost in the ranking, if it's a real PR9, imo.

yea, I checked the site on multiple pr checker sites, and they all report it as pr9

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simplyben

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dp1993

yea, I checked the site on multiple pr checker sites, and they all report it as pr9

That doesn't mean that the url didn't have a 302 redirect to a high pr site, and then taken off after the last pr update. This will show until the Big G updates it again, in another few months. You can check any of the checkers, and it would still show a "Pr9" even though it isn't. I can pretty much guarantee you that no one with a legit PR 9 url sells blogroll links, or PR 8 for that matter.

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sarged2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by simplyben

That doesn't mean that the url didn't have a 302 redirect to a high pr site, and then taken off after the last pr update. This will show until the Big G updates it again, in another few months. You can check any of the checkers, and it would still show a "Pr9" even though it isn't. I can pretty much guarantee you that no one with a legit PR 9 url sells blogroll links, or PR 8 for that matter.

I don't think a simple redirect would anything to do with PR. Especially off to the other domain - that would be a complete bullshit. Do you believe the PR could be manipulated that easily?

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Marc_L 11 years ago

Originally Posted by dp1993

yea, I checked the site on multiple pr checker sites, and they all report it as pr9

Check their links. Or you can PM the domain and I'll do it for you.
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sarged2

11 years ago

few days is a too short period for links to take effect imo.

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Andyhenry

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dp1993

Will a blog roll link to your site help or harm rankings? I recently got a blog roll link from a pr9 website, and after a few days my site went from page 1 to 4. Not sure if its just doing the google dance or if i got screwed.

my site has also went up in bing and yahoo, from page 5 to the top of 3.

The answer is (as always) - it depends.

Google do not like people trying to falsely manipulate Page Rank so if you pay for a link on a site they already flagged as selling links then they may penalise you for it.

If it's just a normal link from a site (not a paid link) then you should be ok.

Andy

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carolm

11 years ago

I thought Matt Cutts specifically mentioned this: if it's a natural fit with your own topic niche you should be fine.

But - if you have a Gardening site, and a link in your Blogroll is to/from a Cooking site, that is an unnatural association, because it has no logical connection to your Blog.

So it provides nothing useful to readers coming to your site to find out info about Gardening - in fact it's downright misleading for your visitors.....downgrade imminent!

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JoshMcNary 11 years ago

Originally Posted by carolm

if you have a Gardening site, and a link in your Blogroll is to/from a Cooking site, that is an unnatural association

I don't think those are unnatural associations.
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- carolm 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JoshMcNary
  
  I don't think those are unnatural associations.
  
  Ok you got me there! How about Gardening and Formula One Racing Cars?
  
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  Originally Posted by carolm
  
  Ok you got me there! How about Gardening and Formula One Racing Cars?
  
  Is it a biofuel Formula One Racing Car site?:p
  
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Marc_L

11 years ago

Originally Posted by carolm

I thought Matt Cutts specifically mentioned this: if it's a natural fit with your own topic niche you should be fine.

But - if you have a Gardening site, and a link in your Blogroll is to/from a Cooking site, that is an unnatural association, because it has no logical connection to your Blog.

So it provides nothing useful to readers coming to your site to find out info about Gardening - in fact it's downright misleading for your visitors.....downgrade imminent!

That seems a little strict. If you have a gardening site I don't think mentioning a cooking site is out of the ordinary. Interested in hearing what your opinion of what a "logical" connection might be for a gardening site.

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smodha

11 years ago

There are different schools of thought on this. I have read that as a private blog owner you shouldn't sell links off your PR blog roll i.e. keep the OBLs low and therefore organic/natural.

Interested to know what others think.

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Lanx

11 years ago

the idiotic cutts has said they lookout for links in the usual "paid" areas
header
footer side
sidebar...

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dp1993

11 years ago

Update: My site has returned to page 1 and is higher than before. Must have been the google dance.

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coollife84

11 years ago

I Dnt think it Hurts our blog.Why beacuse while analyzing many of my competitors backlinks , i found many are using these kind of links(Blog Roll).

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Andyhenry 11 years ago

Originally Posted by coollife84

I Dnt think it Hurts our blog.Why beacuse while analyzing many of my competitors backlinks , i found many are using these kind of links(Blog Roll).

That's crazy logic.

Just because your competitor hasn't been penalised yet, you should copy his links?

Then you both go down the drain together when Google changes an algorithm.
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RedShifted

11 years ago

Originally Posted by CTRTheme

It won't hurt. It will increase your ranking.

Wow! Are you psychic?

I have no idea how you just did that.

This guys rank drops, everyones confused, nobody knows whats really happening/whether or not the world is ending, then you come in and say it will actually increase his rank!!

A few hours after he said he went back up to page 1@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its like you saw what would happen .... right after it happened. I must know what backlink software you used to discover this.

-Red

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RimaNaj2011

11 years ago

I don't like blogroll links but IF i see a good site and I can get a link on it, I'll make sure it's no-follow.

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carolm

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RimaNaj2011

I don't like blogroll links but IF i see a good site and I can get a link on it, I'll make sure it's no-follow.

Forgive me if I'm being dumb, but how can anyone possibly get a link on someone else's Blogroll, unless they pay for it? Do people do that?

It's a genuine question. (I'm excluding blackmail as a reason.)

Blogroll links take your visitors to someone else's site - so why would anyone do that unless there was some sort of 'very worthwhile arrangement' to benefit the owner of the blogroll? And blogroll is usually site wide too.

Or do people use their Blogroll to put their Affiliate Links?

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RimaNaj2011

11 years ago

Originally Posted by carolm

Forgive me if I'm being dumb, but how can anyone possibly get a link on someone else's Blogroll, unless they pay for it? Do people do that?

It's a genuine question. (I'm excluding blackmail as a reason.)

Blogroll links take your visitors to someone else's site - so why would anyone do that unless there was some sort of 'very worthwhile arrangement' to benefit the owner of the blogroll? And blogroll is usually site wide too.

Or do people use their Blogroll to put their Affiliate Links?

Well local businesses do it because of partnerships and things in that nature.

Otherwise, yes, you would pay for it.

Generally it's for partnerships. I've helped some sites out with their SEO for free and they put m link there and I get a bunch of referral traffic. But I make sure its no-follow because I do it for the branding and referral traffic, not for SEO.

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sarged2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

Wow! Are you psychic?

I have no idea how you just did that.

This guys rank drops, everyones confused, nobody knows whats really happening/whether or not the world is ending, then you come in and say it will actually increase his rank!!

A few hours after he said he went back up to page 1@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its like you saw what would happen .... right after it happened. I must know what backlink software you used to discover this.

-Red

He used the warriorforum spambot v1.1 - what I hate about this forum is they never ban these idiotic spammers.

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Alexgw

11 years ago

If they are relevant niche site, there is no chance to get any penalty.

Originally Posted by dp1993

Update: My site has returned to page 1 and is higher than before. Must have been the google dance.

So the issue if resolved by itself. Google dance is really confusing sometimes

Anyway congrats to get a blog roll link from PR9 blog.

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sarged2

11 years ago

Anyway congrats to get a blog roll link from PR9 blog.

I wonder how much it costed you.

$500 / month?

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Faisal-Rehman

11 years ago

Google doesnt like Blog roll links because it is "Link Farming"
just observe your PR 9 link page, you will find Alot of OBL sold there for various niches.
Try to backlink your site from relevant niche.

What if the blog owner remove your links after receiving payments???? Google doesn't notice quickly that how many backlinks a site is getting but it instantly notice when links of a site being removed rapidly, it causes google penality.

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dennis09

11 years ago

My general rule(s) of thumb:

-If it's a sitewide blog roll link then ask yourself if it's relevant to your site/niche. If the answer is no then point it at a dofollow buffer site.

-If it's a homepage blogroll link (not sitewide) then it's ok regardless of niche relation. BUT, keep these unrelated links to a minimum. Most of the links in your backlink profile should come from niche relevant sites, but there's nothing suspicious about a few unrelated ones here and there. The danger comes when your ratios get thrown off and your profile starts to become too diluted and thus "spammy". *A good question to ask yourself here is: Can you, or a Google employee, tell what your site is about by JUST looking at your backlink profile? If your site is about "Weight Loss" and you see links from MMO sites, cooking sites, forex sites, etc; then you probably wouldn't be able to figure that out. 1st red flag.

Noone can tell you exactly how many links would be safe to point directly at your site. There's simply too many unknown factors at play. But if you follow those two general rules then you'll be fine.

Edit: Just got a pm about this and figured I'd clarify here. Irrelevant sitewide blogroll links can hurt you simply because of the sheer amount of links you typically get. So if your site is about weight loss and you get a sitewide link from a 1,000 page site about Forex, then youv'e basically created 1,000 irrelevant links in 1 day. A lot of people also run into this problem when commenting on sites that have a sitewide "recent comments" widget.

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ProSence

11 years ago

Totally depends on the site which you link to.

If the site is recognized by Google that this site buy-sell links, or do link exchange so if any quality site link to that site, would be penalized.

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dennis09

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ProSence

Totally depends on the site which you link to.

If the site is recognized by Google that this site buy-sell links, or do link exchange so if any quality site link to that site, would be penalized.

*cough-bullsh*t-cough

Sorry, there seems to be a terrible bug going around the forums lately.

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jaintechnosoft

11 years ago

It is really amazing how did you get that page rank tell me for my work

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rossnmia

11 years ago

So what about lots of internal links to category pages from the side bar - does this harm my site. I assume it hurts page rank/link juice as so many links are leaving the homepage to internal pages.

Lots of relevant internal links = low bounce rate but losing some links power = catch 22

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kaytav

11 years ago

If the site is crowded with many outbound links and of low quality, it will definitely hurt your site. Many sites are link farms and they will definitely hurt your site.

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patco

11 years ago

Just be sure that you do this naturally (according to Google). First, don't use the SAME keyword in a lot of websites. Also, try to get links from WITHOUT linking back to this website!!! And also, related websites are RECOMMENDED!

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mavtrevor

11 years ago

Links to your blog whether via blog roll counts as backlinks to your blog and yes it could hurt your ranking.

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