Precious Hours Wasted on Backlinking? Or Not?

by esr
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For the last week or so, I have been concentrating on getting some genuine backlinks to my site. I even joined Onlywire and have been submitting my url's to every social bookmarking site I can find with other tools.

It is my understanding that once you've submitted a link to a social bookmarking site, it's live as soon as it's posted, right?

So, tonight I've tried a bunch of tools that are supposed to be able to tell me how many backlinks I have.

Not ONE link shows up from ANY social bookmarking site. How is this possible? Do they just not show up on these tools? Or am I just totally wasting my time with all this submitting? I'm talking HOURS that I have spent working on this.

I tried Link Diagnoses, Google Webmaster Tools, and I even did as Google instructed me to and conducted a search for "links:mydomain.com" and didn't see a single social bookmark listed.

I'm not sure what to think at this point. Any thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author PRsubmits
    I am just sitting here wondering the same thing. I finally got round to making 10 quality web 2.0s with a link to my main site in each plus links to each other. I then bookmarked them, submitted articles to directories with links to them, etc - when I put the 10 of them into hrefs to check the backlinks, they all show as having zero. This can't be right, as each one contains one link to one of the others - so they all have at least one backlink.

    I finished the work a week ago - I am sure in the past links have shown sooner. I hope someone else can chime in and give us answers!
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Links are supposed to be natural.

    Any links that are not natural are in my opinion, a waste of time.

    They may not penalize your site today, they may not do it tomorrow, but they are getting better and better at getting rid of all these artificial links... update after update.

    Your time is better spent creating sites and content that people want to share naturally.

    Yes, you may have guessed I don't believe in link building. It's a dying art. Why waste all that time on something that will eventually be discounted?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nail Yener
    I agree with Will 100% on this. I spent a considerable amount of my time and resources building backlinks to my sites/articles/hubs/lenses etc. in my first years of IM. Guess what, almost all those sites, pages and backlinks are either dead or devalued now.

    I quit building backlinks artificially like two years ago and since then I focused on building websites that people would actually like to visit and recommend to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    1. Don't expect any significant improvement in ranking from using PR0 links..

    2. It's too early to see any back links from those stuff you did because not all links show up on those tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
    Originally Posted by esr View Post

    For the last week or so, I have been concentrating on getting some genuine backlinks to my site. I even joined Onlywire and have been submitting my url's to every social bookmarking site I can find with other tools.

    It is my understanding that once you've submitted a link to a social bookmarking site, it's live as soon as it's posted, right?

    So, tonight I've tried a bunch of tools that are supposed to be able to tell me how many backlinks I have.

    Not ONE link shows up from ANY social bookmarking site. How is this possible? Do they just not show up on these tools? Or am I just totally wasting my time with all this submitting? I'm talking HOURS that I have spent working on this.

    I tried Link Diagnoses, Google Webmaster Tools, and I even did as Google instructed me to and conducted a search for "links:mydomain.com" and didn't see a single social bookmark listed.

    I'm not sure what to think at this point. Any thoughts?
    It takes few days to get your backlinks crawled and then indexed. But basically using tools for ''few hours'' isn't enough anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author esr
    I agree 100% with the "non-natural" links being a waste of time. I always thought of those links as being the ones you'd purchase on Fiverr. Links placed on a bunch of sites that are all written in arabic and farsi, sites that have nothing to do with mine.

    But, links placed on social bookmarking sites, that's a whole different thing. They're not artificial. I have an account at each one of the sites and I am posting them myself.

    To be 100% honest, how often do you place a link to someone else's site on yours just because you like it? I've written posts and referred to other's articles within the post, and included a link, but that is very, very rare.

    Who sees a site, thinks "what a great site, I think I'll add a link to it from MY site?" How often does anyone REALLY do that?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by esr View Post

      Who sees a site, thinks "what a great site, I think I'll add a link to it from MY site?" How often does anyone REALLY do that?
      I guess that totally depends on your niche, people probably won't link from their blog to the electrician cause he did such great work. People might want to share a funny picture though and link to the site where they got it from (intentionally or not).

      Back on topic: back link checkers hardly show bookmarks, web2.0's and that type of links, probably to save resources. That doesn't mean that Google won't see them, but still, you won't get much ranking benefit from it, it serves more for index purposes and to vary your link profile a bit.
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      • Profile picture of the author esr
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I guess that totally depends on your niche, people probably won't link from their blog to the electrician cause he did such great work. People might want to share a funny picture though and link to the site where they got it from (intentionally or not).

        Back on topic: back link checkers hardly show bookmarks, web2.0's and that type of links, probably to save resources. That doesn't mean that Google won't see them, but still, you won't get much ranking benefit from it, it serves more for index purposes and to vary your link profile a bit.

        Thank you! That actually does make sense. I am truly hoping it's something like that. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author supereek
    they are getting better and better in this indeed, and probably within some time normal contextual links wont matter anymore it will be all about social signals like twitter,facebook,g+ etc, because thats how normal organic votes/shares are suposed to be working right? And ofcourse indepth content will be judged a lot when it comes to serp rankings.

    so perhaps try to slowly dripfeeding your sites with social signals, normal seo at this moment still matters tho but try to do it in very little portions because they tend to flag anything as spam thats slightly suspicious. except if you are blasting a youtube video or a high authority web2.0 platform, dont bother creating too many links to a regular site the old ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author MktCoach
    Well, since you're mentioning QUALITY links, then you won't be too surprised to discover that simply dumping a link on to a quality site isn't enough. To wit: if you use Onlywire to blast your link to 50 bookmarking sites, don't expect them to show up unless you're ACTIVE on those sites.

    So, make sure to visit and bookmark at least one other thing there, so that their admins and their algorithm can see you're not just there to self-promote.

    After you post your links there, immediately go to your account and see if they show up. They'll sometimes take a bit. Once they do, ping them.

    Having to do this for 50-or-so sites can become a bit of a job, that's for sure. But, you can spread your workload and with time it will take less time. Either that, or limit the number of sites you're blasting to.

    If you don't do that, then your Onlywire subscription won't serve you very well. In the past, just blasting links worked. Not, usually, it doesn't.

    Also, don't forget to post (manually!) on forums, blogs, etc. Your signature can give you lots of visits if your posts make sense to people.

    That's why Google values manual, intelligent links MUCH higher than any automated ones.
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