Are There Google Spies on WarriroForum

by uzojvp 67 replies
What could be the reason most people hide their Signature on WF when either asking a question?
1. Is it that there are google spies here
2. or they don't want other warriors for outrank them
3. or kill their site with negative seo or what??

One of my reasons for asking this question is because I see a lot of people ask question and refuse to give the website and keyword they are looking for the solution for....
#search engine optimization #google #spies #warriroforum
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  • Profile picture of the author challanger
    who is hiding his/her signature while opening a thread????????????
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  • Profile picture of the author MsHeart
    Maybe most people have not set their sigs at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    sigs are silly!
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  • Profile picture of the author tech84
    to avoid being called out for asking stupid noobish questions while having a sig offering "SEO services"
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Very sometimes I hide my sig when I expect that people would reply back with a comment like "huh look at you, judging me while at the same time promoting your own services in your sig".

    And I love to judge people, but when I do I am always right, that's the difference that they don't see, but still to avoid such dull comment I sometimes disable the sig, most of the time I don't give a crap though.
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    • Profile picture of the author tech84
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Very sometimes I hide my sig when I expect that people would reply back with a comment like "huh look at you, judging me while at the same time promoting your own services in your sig".
      Well you're not exactly the type who asks questions like "What are backlinks?" and then has a sig for SEO services.


      lol
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  • Profile picture of the author jovykhan
    Some people don't need signature to promote there business. Joining forum and having a signature is their secondary perhaps not an option in joining but helping people.
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  • Profile picture of the author uzojvp
    Ma second question is, are there google spies here on WF. Spies I mean people who are paid to note and watch the latest treak of seo on forums..
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    • Profile picture of the author time4vps
      Originally Posted by uzojvp View Post

      Ma second question is, are there google spies here on WF. Spies I mean people who are paid to note and watch the latest treak of seo on forums..
      Google does not have time for that
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    • Profile picture of the author squadron
      Originally Posted by uzojvp View Post

      Ma second question is, are there google spies here on WF. Spies I mean people who are paid to note and watch the latest treak of seo on forums..
      Yes there are. And they will also buy link packets via WSOs, backtrace them and then de-rank the networks.

      It's a lot easier to pay an outsourcer $8 to $10 per hour to lurk on the forums and find people selling links than trying to work out if a link is paid for or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by squadron View Post

        Yes there are. And they will also buy link packets via WSOs, backtrace them and then de-rank the networks.
        Lol keep on dreaming, in that case my "small" network and a tons of others would already have been deindexed, I only had a deindexrate of 0.16%/month, that's 3 domains over >8 months.

        And what would they really catch, there are not that many people on the WF with their own private network where they sell links, maybe a dozen or so, while there are 10.000's of SEO companies that do not advertise at the forum, you think they are going to buy links from them as well?

        Wake up!
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      • Profile picture of the author RimaNaj2011
        Originally Posted by squadron View Post

        Yes there are. And they will also buy link packets via WSOs, backtrace them and then de-rank the networks.

        It's a lot easier to pay an outsourcer $8 to $10 per hour to lurk on the forums and find people selling links than trying to work out if a link is paid for or not.
        I hope this is sarcasm.

        This forum is a fart compared to what Google really cares about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bambu
    I am sure some Google employs are paid to keep tabs on certain IM/SEO forums. IMO, this is not one of them or if they do, it is low on the list of forums they keep an eye on.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    If you mean why do people not share their URL when they have a specific question about a site, it's simple. Let's say you found a niche that has the potential to be fairly profitable. No matter how good you are at internet marketing, there are probably people far better at it than you on this forum. So why invite difficult competition into your niche?

    As for Google having spies... I don't think they are really spies, but I'm sure they monitor popular IM and SEO forums to keep tabs on the latest trends. Why wouldn't they? You can pretty much guarantee that if there is a popular trend in SEO on forums, it is going to get targeted by search engines. Look at the most popular link building methods over the past 4-5 years...

    Linkwheels... Dead
    Forum profile links... Dead
    Public blog networks... Dead or being killed off
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    • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      If you mean why do people not share their URL when they have a specific question about a site, it's simple. Let's say you found a niche that has the potential to be fairly profitable. No matter how good you are at internet marketing, there are probably people far better at it than you on this forum. So why invite difficult competition into your niche?

      As for Google having spies... I don't think they are really spies, but I'm sure they monitor popular IM and SEO forums to keep tabs on the latest trends. Why wouldn't they? You can pretty much guarantee that if there is a popular trend in SEO on forums, it is going to get targeted by search engines. Look at the most popular link building methods over the past 4-5 years...

      Linkwheels... Dead
      Forum profile links... Dead
      Public blog networks... Dead or being killed off
      Yeah, but there could be another value there that you're missing. You're saying that forum signatures have no SEO value. But if the percentage of returning visitors is a factor, then they do. Right now my percentage is above 40%. That's because I keep on posting in this forum and the same people keep on visiting my site. The same goes for bounce rate. If I'm promoting my website with "useless backlinks" but that improves my bounce rate then that could also effect my rankings in the search engines. It tells Google that I'm not spamming and focusing on a relevant audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I've actually spent the last couple of days going through all my backlinks and removing my money site link from threads. Eventually I will remove it from my profile too.

    I don't think anyone would want to compete with me right now. Its too early. And you do need special certification to sell what I sell. But I'm still investing a lot of time and money to dominate the SERPs. So 6 months from now, I may have competitors in my industry, searching my links on here, and that would not be good at all.

    I'm not actually worried about people on WF. I'm worried about people in my niche, most who don't hang out on WF, finding certain posts I've made, that outline many of my strategies.

    Call it paranoia, but I've done so much spying on my competitors, that naturally you start getting paranoid yourself. =]

    -Red
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Shaw
    Yes there is... No question! WF, BHW, TRT and others are all watched for reactions of propaganda and sneaky tracking. Why try and guess what a crowd of people intend if you can just read their open discussions? True high level marketers know to keep quite about what works! And then maybe in a year when it is dying down sell the idea/technique to others..... Yes it is a dog eat.......
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Posting a link on an IM forum to a money site would be equivalent to throwing yourself in front of a bus.
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  • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
    Originally Posted by uzojvp View Post

    What could be the reason most people hide their Signature on WF when either asking a question?
    1. Is it that there are google spies here
    2. or they don't want other warriors for outrank them
    3. or kill their site with negative seo or what??

    One of my reasons for asking this question is because I see a lot of people ask question and refuse to give the website and keyword they are looking for the solution for....
    There are Google spies all around us. They drive up and down your streets with a unique camera on top of their vehicles.
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    • Profile picture of the author tech84
      Google is everywhere! [Insert evil laugh here]





      from 9gag (no shit Sherlock!)
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      • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
        You're joking about it now but this could be reality 40 or 50 years from now. Imagine a world where everything is monitored 24/7 including your THOUGHTS.
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by tech84 View Post

        Google is everywhere! [Insert evil laugh here]
        Haha that is awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
    George Orwell was right, he just got the year wrong. Big Brother is here and its name is Google...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      A real google spy would not remove his sig.

      He/she would leave it in place and point it to something like a course on how to build SEO networks so no one would suspect him

      He would get lots of thanks and embed himself as a long time member and earn himself the respect of many and the disdain of many more. He would curse out adsense and tell people adwords is too expensive to use to keep his identity secret.

      He would then post directly in a thread about Google spies enumerating all the things that they would and wouldn't do and then give a sinister laugh to himself as they still could not figure out his identity being quite confident that he could only be joking.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by gregdavidson727 View Post

        Yeah, but there could be another value there that you're missing. You're saying that forum signatures have no SEO value. But if the percentage of returning visitors is a factor, then they do. Right now my percentage is above 40%. That's because I keep on posting in this forum and the same people keep on visiting my site. The same goes for bounce rate. If I'm promoting my website with "useless backlinks" but that improves my bounce rate then that could also effect my rankings in the search engines. It tells Google that I'm not spamming and focusing on a relevant audience.
        Google has no idea if a website is getting returning visitors or not.

        The only bounce rate they are aware of and might potentially use in rankings is when someone clicks on a listing in the SERP and immediately hits the back button and chooses another listing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Google has no idea if a website is getting returning visitors or not.

          I wouldn't be to sure of that. They have three different potential ways

          Logged in users (tracking evidenced by personalized results)
          adsense (where they clearly leave cookies)
          Chrome


          Can't locate every return visitor but they should be able to find some if they want to look.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Why would they bother? There's no info here about SEO that could be used by anyone
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    @ tech84 - ROFL! That was hilarious.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      I wouldn't be to sure of that. They have three different potential ways

      Logged in users (tracking evidenced by personalized results)
      adsense (where they clearly leave cookies)
      Chrome


      Can't locate every return visitor but they should be able to find some if they want to look.
      Okay, but using any or all of those methods would only allow them to track data for a small percentage of traffic on an even smaller percentage of websites.

      For 80+% of the sites out there, they would have no data. Probably over 90%. That is why I highly doubt it has any impact on rankings. They don't have enough data to incorporate it on the majority of websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    Google not only monitors this forum, but has several dozen full time employees who pose as senior warriors offering SEO advice to confuse the newbies. They also look at sites in your signature and de-index those too, so be careful!
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    "Warriro Forum" ..?

    Is that the Spanish version of WF?
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      "Warriro Forum" ..?

      Is that the Spanish version of WF?
      LOL, I was thinking the Japanese clone.
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    • Profile picture of the author avimaell
      its "Forum Guerrero" in Spanish dude
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  • Profile picture of the author twilightofidols
    Common sense would dictate that they are actively involved in monitoring the SEO marketing community because their multi-billion dollar profits in part depend on whether or not these people are able to manipulate the search results against what is most profitable to Google, and in the interest of the customer base.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Google is keeping a stern eye over everything. Their future depends on it...
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  • Profile picture of the author JMac
    I think it is more people are afraid of other commenting on their site or maybe even stealing their ideas. Honestly, if someone needs help, they need to show the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author jxam69
    I thought everyone knew that the Warrior forum was set up by Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author fortony
      With the kind of data Google has access to, I think they have better things to do than spy on forums.
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by fortony View Post

        With the kind of data Google has access to, I think they have better things to do than spy on forums.
        There are several private forums that share a some really elaborate techniques. Nothing you'd see here @ the WF, and, for the most part, incredibly blackhat. You don't think Google has a few low-end office drones joining and participating in these every once and awhile?
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        • Profile picture of the author fortony
          Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

          There are several private forums that share a some really elaborate techniques. Nothing you'd see here @ the WF, and, for the most part, incredibly blackhat. You don't think Google has a few low-end office drones joining and participating in these every once and awhile?
          I guess that could be a possibility. Maybe just to see what the blackhat guys are up to. Just to get an idea of the industry, not to actually spy on individuals
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          • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
            Originally Posted by fortony View Post

            I guess that could be a possibility. Maybe just to see what the blackhat guys are up to. Just to get an idea of the industry, not to actually spy on individuals
            That's pretty much what I meant.
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    • Profile picture of the author uzojvp
      Originally Posted by jxam69 View Post

      I thought everyone knew that the Warrior forum was set up by Google.
      Is that true?
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      • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
        Originally Posted by uzojvp View Post

        Is that true?
        Yes, of course.

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    • Profile picture of the author Luis Vaugier
      Originally Posted by jxam69 View Post

      I thought everyone knew that the Warrior forum was set up by Google.
      Lol! yup seems nobody knows it
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  • Profile picture of the author avimaell
    Google is Like The Government Here On The Net.Applying Rules And Laws.Internet Suppost To be A free WORLD
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    • Profile picture of the author uzojvp
      Originally Posted by avimaell View Post

      Google is Like The Government Here On The Net.Applying Rules And Laws.Internet Suppost To be A free WORLD
      Maybe We need pick out a day and do a mass protest to go and OCCUPY google's office with placards
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    I think the OP is a Google employee??
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    It's me, i'm the WF spy.

    Isn't it obvious??

    Why else would someone so cool and sexy come to hang out with you guys?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

      It's me, i'm the WF spy.

      Isn't it obvious??
      So thats why you changed your avatar? So you could pin the whole thing on a black guy. Yep time to use my favorite animated gif again

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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        So thats why you changed your avatar? So you could pin the whole thing on a black guy. Yep time to use my favorite animated gif again

        No, I changed it because I realized the little green monster was pretty gay. No offense
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    I guarantee that the Google web-spam team monitors this and a few other high profile forums. It has nothing to do with signatures though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
    If there were google spies on this forum they'd be tickled pink with all the BS being spread around here.
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    • Profile picture of the author dennis09
      Originally Posted by Marc_L View Post

      If there were google spies on this forum they'd be tickled pink with all the BS being spread around here.
      Well I did say no offense
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

        Well I did say no offense
        I saw what you did there with the tickled pink comment. You in twouble however I have no animated gif for that......yet
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    No, there are no google spies. Lol
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    It is true.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      I'll say up front that I did not read this entire thread.

      Forget about google spies. You should be on the look
      out for people who want to attack your site, report
      you to google, get you banned, etc.

      One reason you should not share one single money
      site here, nor should you ever buy anything from
      fiverr that involves said sites.

      Case in point. Some knucklehead posts about how to rank
      in youtube. Last step is to buy YT views using their site,
      complete with backlink, spammed. I told the guy upfront
      he's a clown, breaking YT and adsense TOS. But look at
      the thread. People saying thanks and all that. Then I said
      beware, you are violation TOS, and you are putting your
      sites in jeopardy. Especially to people who have itchy
      fingers.

      Now I want to state up front I never ever waste anytime
      reporting anyone or anything to google. I let google's
      bots and auto tools do the job. What comes around goes
      around. Why do you think there are so many failed threads,
      banned threads, all starting with, "I have been doing this
      for years..."

      So, if you propose to violate google webmaster guidelines,
      adsense or YT tos, and have a sig, to ANY page, you
      are asking for trouble. Not from google spies, but from
      WF members who might have a chip on their shoulder.

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  • Profile picture of the author synaptium
    There are google spies just like there a lot of blackhatters...infact all blackhat site members are warrior forum members.
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    • Profile picture of the author Danny Shaw
      Originally Posted by synaptium View Post

      There are google spies just like there a lot of blackhatters...infact all blackhat site members are warrior forum members.
      Many Blackhatters get employed by G???
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