How To Know For Sure If You Have a Google Penalty?

11 years ago

I am having this same problem with my website but I am working on the content part because I think the only way I can bring my ranking back is by creating lot's or high quality content.

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lennyk1313

11 years ago

You can try majesticseo to at least give you an idea on your site profile. It will tell you the type of links you have, and the trust ranking. This way you will know where your links are coming from and if they are potentially spamy.

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IMstudier

11 years ago

Hi lennyk1313, thanks for that. I just tried that service and got the following results. Not sure what it means though, esp concerning citation flow and trust flow. Do you?

Referring Domains

179

697 in the last 5 years.
External Backlinks

3,748

15,253 in the last 5 years.

Citation Flow

38

Trust Flow

22

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smodha

11 years ago

Submit your site to Google Webmaster Tools. That will tell you if you've suffered a penalty.

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IMstudier

11 years ago

automatically or do I have to request it? I already have an account, in the labs section it says 'No new messages or recent critical issues.'
Does that mean no penalty?

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online only

11 years ago

Originally Posted by IMstudier

automatically or do I have to request it? I already have an account, in the labs section it says 'No new messages or recent critical issues.'
Does that mean no penalty?

That does not mean you have penalty.

Few questions to make somethings clear:

Have you ranked in top 10-20 before?
Did you suffer from ranking drop lately? (if not then when)
URL would be nice, so I could check your backlinks

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AmazonGuy 11 years ago

Seriously you guys have no idea what you are saying here at the forums , its time to stray away alittle to get your minds clear from all the bull*

Theres programs that can help you
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Darren Mallory

11 years ago

The problem with the reconsideration request is that it takes bloody ages!!

If you have been penalised its best to find out the cause - usually its either some of your links have gone - competitors are getting stronger OR you have bad links or your link profile is to heavy towards in name url.

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IMstudier

11 years ago

@Online only - Yes I have. Top 3 for some of my search terms. I would say it was about 6 months ago and things have got worse since then.
@AmazonGuy. What programs?

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AmazonGuy 11 years ago

I offer consulting if you would like sorry mate
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IMstudier

11 years ago

Hmm, so there is no way to know for certain if there is a penalty and what that penalty might be?

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GodMode52

11 years ago

lol gotta love some of those answers. The easiest way to know if you are penalized is to buy few good and strong backlinks and point them at your main keyword, if they move up you are good , if they don't move you are probably penalized. Easy fast & clean.

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IMstudier

11 years ago

GodMode52 - how do you go about buying quality links?

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paulgl

11 years ago

How To Know For Sure If You Have a Google Penalty?

You've been de-indexed. That's the only real penalty, in
real terms.

What did you think when your site moved up? That other
sites were "penalized"? Is that the only way to move up
and down, is when someone gets a penalty? Google does
not work like that. Rearranging SERPs is not a penalty.

Re-evaluating the worth, keywords, backlinks, etc. is
not a penalty.

NFL uses replay on all TDs. If one has a TD taken away due
to replay, are they being penalized?

You train for a race that you have always won. This time,
50 people decide to train harder and you finish 20th.

Penalty?

People scream penalty way too much, when in reality there
is no penalty.

If you ever get back on top, I can imagine that person coming
here and complaining about some penalty. What if 20 webmamsters
decide to work hard all at once? They can't move up until
google issues the sites above a penalty?

Paul

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GodMode52

11 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

How To Know For Sure If You Have a Google Penalty?

You've been de-indexed. That's the only real penalty, in
real terms.

What did you think when your site moved up? That other
sites were "penalized"? Is that the only way to move up
and down, is when someone gets a penalty? Google does
not work like that. Rearranging SERPs is not a penalty.

Re-evaluating the worth, keywords, backlinks, etc. is
not a penalty.

NFL uses replay on all TDs. If one has a TD taken away due
to replay, are they being penalized?

You train for a race that you have always won. This time,
50 people decide to train harder and you finish 20th.

Penalty?

People scream penalty way too much, when in reality there
is no penalty.

If you ever get back on top, I can imagine that person coming
here and complaining about some penalty. What if 20 webmamsters
decide to work hard all at once? They can't move up until
google issues the sites above a penalty?

Paul

Paul I have to disagree here, I've been working in the past on sites which lost 20-60 positions after panda/penguin/etc and there was no way to get them up again. There's an algorytmical filter which is hard if not impossible to remove that's why I don't even try to touch penalized sites anymore.

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MakeYourselfVisible 11 years ago

I might be naive but I feel like there's some irony in purchasing links to see if you've been assessed a penalty. Isn't that one of the reasons that site owners are getting penalized by Google?

Quality content, more quality content, and a bit of optimization and networking in communities related to what you do seems to work pretty well these days.
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- paulgl 11 years ago
  
  Two ways to know. At least maybe.
  
  Dropping 50 spots is not a google penalty. That would mean the site
  at 51, would be suffering from a double secret penalty...
  
  One way is a PR drop. Sometimes it is related to you buying and selling
  links, penalty. Sometimes it's related to some links being gone, like sites
  taken off, pages down, etc.
  
  Another is a deindex.
  
  Dropping in SERPs is rarely a penalty. Why would google just drop you in
  SERPs? That would mean google operates on a negative SEO basis. That
  sites cannot move up unless another site has a penalty. That would be
  crazy. Too many intangibles to make you drop in SERPs other than a
  penalty.
  
  How could new sites ever move up if google only moved around sites
  based on penalties? You would never rank #1 unless that site suffered
  a penalty. When you took the #1 spot, did you get there by someones
  penalty or your hard work?
  
  A drop in PR does not always mean a drop in SERPs. How many here
  keep saying PR does not matter?
  
  You can't climb 50 spots and claim it's hard work, if at the same time
  you claim you drop 50 spots because of a penalty. Now, how many
  of you with a new site saw yourself rising to #150, 50, then 10 or
  higher?
  
  Paul
  
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GodMode52 11 years ago

Originally Posted by IMstudier

GodMode52 - how do you go about buying quality links?

I said ''buy''' only because it's a faster way to see results , however you can try it with the ''legit'' route too, ask for links to webmasters , guest posting etc.

Usually 5 real high pr (4-5) backlinks should be enough to see noticable results on a single keyword (low-med competition).

You have to look around if you are willing to buy. I own my domains but I don't sell backlinks.
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IMstudier

11 years ago

What if you go down 6 pages in one go?

Penalty?

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