This site should be de-indexed, reported or penalized. WTF.

While this thread has primarily descended into a racial discussion, lets get back to the original point because this line here struck a cord with me. I have to ask... at what point did "freedom of speech" become a foreign concept to you?

We pay a price to live in a free society, and that price is toleration.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the site or its content by any means - but I will defend their right to post it. Once we create an "authority" in charge of what is or isn't allowed online, where does it end? It doesn't. Your religion offends someone. Your clothing offends someone. Nude pictures offend someone. Spammy internet marketing offers offends someone. It's a slippery slope that only ends with more government control and less individual freedom.

You have the right not to visit sites you don't like. But you don't have the right to deny access to it to others. The day someone gets to decide what "shouldn't be allowed" on the Internet is the day we forfeit all of our rights.

Ernest, I didn't have time to read the whole thread so if someone already suggested this, whoops!

Anyway, you might have better luck complaining to their host. I supposed there are hosts out there who don't care what their customers publish, but the hosts I've used have clauses in their TOS against racism. Maybe their host doesn't know about it? Just a thought.

Thank you for the kind word sir, currently I don't have any Adsense/Amazon sites. I recently decided to create a local business magazine site in my city (Philadelphia) to help small business owners with internet marketing and other business related issues.

I find this to be a more stable business model than depending on Google/Adsense. I use the magazine to get my foot in the door, after that I do brief story on the business owner, place the article on my site and sometimes I get a new client in the process, for web design/marketing.


Building a local site ain't half bad, really don't have any competition for what it is I'm trying to do, while my competitors talk about industry giants like Apple,Wal-mart etc, I focus on smaller mom n pop shops, bakeries, auto repair shops who could really use the extra exposure, another thing is I concentrate on my city and that's it.

You are not kidding my friend! No matter what you search for out there it is always the GARBAGE that ranks page one. Ok maybe not ALWAYS, but a good majority of the time. These people obviously have amazing web masters and back link builders, because I have been producing quality content for a long time now (well I think it's quality content and so do most people who get to read it) But I still have a hard time ranking on google. You have to search quite specific search terms for it to show up. Ah well, I'll keep on writing. It's what i like to do.

I don't go looking for sites like this, in fact this is the very first time I came across anything like this, either way I'm not trying to start a revolution or movement to take down all sites that are offensive, I just told WF about what I found.


Far as what blacks say about whites, in my circle of family and friends those are the only things ever said. The only other thing we say (and this is only when something really bad happens on the news) is at least they wasn't black lol.

But I never heard anyone have hatred for whites or any other race, we just wonder why whites don't like us if anything. But I'll end it here, this is a forum for IM, not race relations or politics etc.

Seriously who but a racist in our day and time claims that people objecting to the N word are too sensitive?

When I called you out on the AL sharpton comment a few weeks ago you denied it and here you are showing the same thing

ROFL you gotta love the "if" there.

I don't usually say those things, they are saved just for you buddy. Plus they usually come at the end of the conversation and not at the beginning.

lol, he always gots MA on his mind

anyway connection is easy... he who lies can lie about anything

Don't think that was ever the issue its more about what it is ranking for in Google.

People - Google can't remove sites from the internet. Thats not even the issue

My bad then.

I find the site offensive so obviously I don't think you're alone. The site is a piece of shit. I wish it didn't exist.

Google apparently isn't going to be deindexing sites that most people find offensive as they stated in their statement I posted earlier.

There are tons of sites that wouldn't be missed but who is going to decide what won't be missed and what can therefore be de-indexed? How many people have to be offended before sites get removed? 51%? 75%? 90%? 99%?

Mike,
It's always interesting reading how young people try to bait others with anger questions.

Religions should be forbidden by law.

If you stopped writing your life story long enough to read the top of the 1st page you wouldn't be asking silly questions.

Keep up with the class.

So what, me, my family, my friends and every other black person I know wasn't born in Africa, but were still African Americans.


Anyways, I'm done with this issue. I wasn't angry when I made the post, I simply stated that I found an offensive site. I figured if plenty of people here have problems with EMD, MFA, and crappy Amazon reviews that they would agree that this one should not exist. I was wrong, end of story.


Edit: Also as Mike has stated I doubt Google would want this site ranking number one for anything related to black people, since African Americans (black people) and Nig*** are two different things.

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. ROFl

Its news to Obama that he is not african american because he was born in the US.

Keep going Yuke. You are doing a fine job

Hmmm someone seems to care very deeply about Obama not being classified as an African American though eh?

Yuke has spoken Dude. Only African Americans are ones that were born outside the US.

Comedy hour has begun.

I'm outta here. Can't work while laughing

June 10, 2013

And it is STILL "supposedly."

Don't say it John. Calm down. Imagine what I am thinking though. :rolleyes:

Simple... its matter of which one gave the searcher better relevancy. IF one is better then the other one needs to improve. It totally destroys the argument that the OP went looking for it. If he had searched at bing he would not have gotten it. Can't explain it any simpler.

Nope thats not all google is doing . Their algo is designed to display relevant searches so they are also ranking sites according to relevance not just indexing them. Herein lies the issue.

Nope it obviously comes down to relevancy.

Kay you are in the SEO section. There have been heated debates on where sites are ranked that have ZERO to do with race (and plenty to with the color green). to me this is a discussion more about relevancy and it is a SEO issue. I can't speak for the OP but I certainly do not believe Google is racist. Its just an interesting look at relevance albeit one that has to do with a touchy subject. Waste for you? Perhaps but you can't speak for everyone as some universal law. As a matter of fact its been highly productive to me. Its not often you see a site ranking that you KNOW google would have preferred it not to - as such it gives a special look at the algo and how it works - Great stuff for a SEO

As for emotionally upset - you really can't determine emotional states by forum posts. You can try but you can often be wrong. You might swear for example that I am upset but I have not chuckled at a thread more than this one in a LONG time.

As for the whole anti white sites with hateful posts not being hate sites. Come on --- by that criteria we could all pretend there is no hate speech and no hates sites just people expressing their opinions. Anti any race is a hate site.

Totally irrelevant. Google cannot stop a site from existing. I'm sorry but you are totally and absolutely clueless. Free speech has nothing whatsoever to do with having your site promoted,listed or displayed by another company (Google). Its a TOTALLY rubbish argument.

Do newspapers violate free speech by choosing not to list Klu klux klan ads? Do many broadcast stations refuse to run hate messages violate free speech? Promotion of free speech in another companies listing is not a free speech principle. You are totally confused.

Listen my man, I said that the site should not exist, end of story. I don't care what Eddie Murphy said 20 yrs ago. I'm not going make this a big thing about race or racism. I simply said wow I was searching 'why do black people" and came across a racist site that in my opinion should not exist.



Black people has nothing to do with the word Ni**er. I don't understand how no one see that. If I said why do white people, and cracka.com showed up I still would been like wtf. If it seems as though the site was made by black person and it has racist jokes about whites I would have felt exactly the way I do right now. The site would add no value to the world.


Far as me saying blacks don't own a computer, that has nothing to do with it being a racist statement. I'm saying not everyone has a computer, it's not common in the hood. I should know.


Edit:
"But yelling "that's racist" every time something offends you isn't going to get any closer to the goal of racial neutrality, it just continues to divide people."

I don't yell racism to often but when a site is name Ni**ermania, and has the best Ni**ger jokes it kind of hard to not say that's racist don't you think.

Either way, in my everyday life I never been on the receiving end of a racist slur, I don't have a reason not to like white people, or anyone for that matter. So in general I could careless about race, just don't make no site with jokes like:

A Mexican and a ni**er are riding in car . . who's driving?
A cop!

Marc that is NOT what Nest is saying. He is talking about the usage which I agree is just dumb for any side. The word should just be put out of commission by both sides. However go and read some of that stuff Nest objected to at that site. Its mean, ugly and hateful. regardless of my distaste for it in music or comedy its not USED in such a hateful context.

and for the record the fact that a black person can say it and turn right around and get upset at a white person saying it in the same joke/music context is dumber than dumb.

Exactly, blacks say it, but the meaning is different, if a racist person says it, it's hate, if one black say it to another, it's like saying what's up.

It's like if I call my mom a name it's ok, she's my mom. But if you call my mom a name, it' a insult.


Do black people need to stop saying that word to each other and lead by example, yes. But just because we use it doesn't mean any other race can.


Honestly I like old black guys, they call you brother, which is much better than the n word.

Mike, you're kind of making my point for me.

There was a story about a year ago, a second grade class was each assigned an historical figure to dress up as for the day. The selection was random, and it happened that a white kid was assigned Martin Luther King Jr. His parents put him in a little suit, gave him a mustache, put some black makeup on his face, and sent him off to school thinking nothing of it.

Low and behold, some black person in the school was "offended" by the black face, referencing the old silver screen era when blacks were portrayed by white actors wearing black makeup. They said it was disrespectful to black people and made the kid wash it off. I was a history and archaeology student, so I understand the era and the "black face" premise, but the parents, the kid, and frankly most people today who aren't black or history/video production scholars wouldn't have even known about it.

It shouldn't have been an issue... clearly it wasn't meant as a racist gesture. No parent said "Ha, lets send our kid to school with a blackface and piss everyone off!" but low and behold, someone called the local news. And they came out and stuck a microphone in the kids face and asked him what he was thinking. The kid - remember, a second grader - had no idea what the heck was going on. Here he was honoring MLK, in his mind, and everyone was mad at him for it. After the story broke, his parents received threatening phone calls, were called racists, etc. All because some JACKASS was "offended"? Are you kidding me? Someone needs to tell that moron to get over himself and grow up.

THIS is how racism is created. That little boy, who didn't have a racist bone in his body, is going to remember how he and his family were treated. But now there's a good chance they'll have a different opinion of black people than they used to. They'll view them as a violent people who overreact and play the race card at every perceived opportunity. And the stereotype will continue for another generation.

To someone who isn't racist, there is nothing more offensive than being called a racist. But it happens all the time. You did it to me just now. As a nation, whites have for the most part moved past race. I know admitting this doesn't fit in with your agenda, but dude, we elected a black President for Pete's sake, if anything should have indicated that the race debate was behind us it should have been that. Sure, there will always be some ignorant fools out there, but that's happening on both sides - because it also seems there will always be those in the black community who have something to gain from race-baiting and perpetuating racial stereotypes, and we can't seem to have a serious discussion about it because when a white guy like me tries to have a candid discussion about it, he has to walk on egg shells to make his point else he's labeled a racist.

Today's "racism" isn't about race at all, it's about crime, culture, and economics. There are neighborhoods I won't drive though in a Corvette with the top down, you know what I mean? It just so happens that a good majority of those are predominantly black neighborhoods, but it isn't skin pigment that concerns me - it's the fact that people who don't "fit in there" get carjacked, beaten, robbed, and shot.

So when I say "I won't go there", I'm thinking of those reasons and the black guy is thinking "he hates black people, and just made that other stuff up to hide his racism". Once that happens, we're at an impasse. At that moment I will never convince you I'm not a racist, and you'll never convince me you aren't ignorant.

Only one race has the power to change that, and it isn't white people. I bet we'll still be arguing about race in another 100 years.