SEO; Why it isn't working for me?

11 years ago

What I saw is you haven't mentioned latest update Panda and Penguin, these two are very hard to overcome.. so you should read about Penguin update as well, so that you would know how to do link building.

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Andyhenry

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Hansons

What I saw is you haven't mentioned latest update Panda and Penguin, these two are very hard to overcome..

???? In what way are they "hard to overcome"?

These algorithm changes to not make ranking a website hard. They just make wasting your time on cheap low value links more of a waste of time. But surely you knew that would always happen anyway? it was just a matter of time.

There are MANY ways to do well in Google and people share that information here all the time.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

These algorithm changes to not make ranking a website hard. They just make wasting your time on cheap low value links more of a waste of time. But surely you knew that would always happen anyway? it was just a matter of time.

I pointed that out on another SEO forum thread, people building junk Amazon sites (latest fad), then acting like they're confused when Google does an algo. change.

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PerformanceMan

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I pointed that out on another SEO forum thread, people building junk Amazon sites (latest fad), then acting like they're confused when Google does an algo. change.

Keep in mind that desperation is the source of many of these websites, so the people behind them don't always read the rules.

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yukon Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by PerformanceMan

Keep in mind that desperation is the source of many of these websites, so the people behind them don't always read the rules.

I guess by rules you mean common sense.
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11 years ago

Try Good Quality of Blog Comments.

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fiehatran

11 years ago

SEO make us crazy , and penguin make me want to die, want to slap it

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Andyhenry 11 years ago

Originally Posted by fiehatran

SEO make us crazy , and penguin make me want to die, want to slap it

Why?

What's the problem?
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vksheilds

11 years ago

I don't think that there is nothing change for a guy who is belong to this fields since 4 to 5 years. Earlier Google had intentioned to results only quality websites and same its now however now they are more strict over black hat and low quality websites

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Annie15

11 years ago

Make your links look natural, a mix of dofollow and nofollow links make look your link natural. Do not use your exact keyword as anchor text for link building. Do not add too much of links in a short period of time.

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williamrichard

11 years ago

Put quality content in your website. Do backlink works in high page rank sites.

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PerformanceMan

11 years ago

Have you joined the Secret Society of SEOs yet? Membership helps rankings

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11 years ago

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wpseoguy

11 years ago

you can try to use a software, squirrly seo to see if your articles are really optimize corectly. maybe there is the problem..

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patco

11 years ago

Laters updates really confused me too... I saw many websites on 1st place (or at least 1st page!) that have backlinks from BLOG COMMETING only... Most of them are spammy backlinks...

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RockNRolla

11 years ago

Guest blogging, infographics, broken link building method, good old fashioned outreach methods are still solid free strategies that all work.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by amiramin

Guest blogging seems to work. But Guest blogging costs too much.

Raise your prices and/or build your own network of high pr domains.

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ppcmanager 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Raise your prices and/or build your own network of high pr domains.

Private blog networks would work always, provided they are not spammed, have unique C class IP, low OBL, quality content and good PR.
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WebMeUp

11 years ago

The main change was probably about the increased prominence of social signals and online reputation. Quantity and quality of social signals on the one hand, and Google+ authorship on the other have a significant impact on SEO (even though social links aren't the main contributors to a backlink profile).

As for regular links, after Penguin latest update contextual links from niche relevant sites came to the fore. Overall, main things to consider are relevancy and social presence, that's why some old techniques, like press releases are now supposed to bring benefits rather in terms of outreach than SEO as such.

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dennis09

11 years ago

Originally Posted by WebMeUp

The main change was probably about the increased prominence of social signals and online reputation. Quantity and quality of social signals on the one hand, and Google+ authorship on the other have a significant impact on SEO (even though social links aren't the main contributors to a backlink profile).

You got anything to back that up? I keep seeing people spout this stuff but i've never seen social signals do squat for rankings.

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WebMeUp 11 years ago

Originally Posted by dennis09

You got anything to back that up? I keep seeing people spout this stuff but i've never seen social signals do squat for rankings.

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Theeban

11 years ago

Give people that is interesting, Use blogging, Free blogging platform and setup blogs on your niche and promote those blogs (promoting blogs on free blogging platform is easier) - you can easily get SERP for those blogs. Then, drive referral traffic from those blogs.... It requires lots of writing and lots of promotions, but it worth.

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raahbd

11 years ago

if we follow Google penguin and panda rules our site never ban and our site must be optimized.
thats why we should follow Google penguin and panda.

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affilorama-portal

11 years ago

Re-evaluate your website, especially your on page seo. Then remove all possible bad/spam backlinks and just continue building more quality links. Also update yourself of the latest SEO strategies based from G algo updates.

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badlimey

11 years ago

How many of you know how and why SEO/SEM even began? Just asking! It's an industry entirely built on deception. BTW Google is not required to access the Internet. Stop kissing their ass and jump off the Google Bandwagon!

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seoed

11 years ago

Stop kissing their ass and jump off the Google Bandwagon

That would be great. Any suggestions?

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badlimey

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seoed

That would be great. Any suggestions?

Recently I put on a monkey suit and stood on the side of the road with a sign that had the same message on as the adwords message and it drove 3200% more traffic to a landing page in an hour than an adwords campaign did in three weeks.

SMS Marketing, 98% open rate, and 95% read in the first 5 minutes. SEO/SEM was developed by marketers trying to promote pornography in the early 90's, most in the business today don't even know why they do what they do.

Bottom line, Google is one page digital Yellow Pages that has a 999 other pages that nobody bothers to visit. Mobile is the equalizer. I wrote 12500 words on the crack in Google's armor. You can have it for the asking on my main site..

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Andyhenry 11 years ago

Originally Posted by badlimey

I wrote 12500 words on the crack in Google's armor. You can have it for the asking on my main site..

I liked your post right up until that line.
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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by badlimey

Recently I put on a monkey suit and stood on the side of the road with a sign that had the same message on as the adwords message and it drove 3200% more traffic to a landing page in an hour than an adwords campaign did in three weeks.

SMS Marketing, 98% open rate, and 95% read in the first 5 minutes. SEO/SEM was developed by marketers trying to promote pornography in the early 90's, most in the business today don't even know why they do what they do.

Bottom line, Google is one page digital Yellow Pages that has a 999 other pages that nobody bothers to visit. Mobile is the equalizer. I wrote 12500 words on the crack in Google's armor. You can have it for the asking on my main site..

If you had a real monkey you would have hit 6,400% more traffic than Adwords.

I need to get me a monkey ($$).

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STLSEO

11 years ago

Automated link building software is NOT a smart thing to engage in. Rather than spamming the internet with crap, start focusing on your brand (or your client's).

Why waste your time building massive amounts of low-quality links when you can be gaining PR and essentially new customers?!

Let your content (AND content sharing) take care of the link building.

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Mkcoy

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by fiehatran

SEO make us crazy , and penguin make me want to die, want to slap it

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Why?
What's the problem?

Why does he need an excuse to?lol I want to slap it anyway just for being up in my face so much..

Who told you web 2.0 sites are dead? Someone who was slapped by penguin?

Guestposts are not expensive if they are successful for you they more than pay for themselves.

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Andyhenry 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mkcoy

Who told you web 2.0 sites are dead? Someone who was slapped by penguin?

But that's a massive generalisation which is not true.

That's like saying that because someone carrying a gun got stopped by the police - everyone should stay inside because "the police are arresting people in the street".

Google does not care about whether you're using web 2.0 or not - they care about whether their results are filling with crap.

The reason many web 2.0 stuff got slapped was not because it was web2.0 but because it was low quality crap thrown up because it's free to do it.

The reason many people used web 2.0 properties was precisely because they didn't value their content enough to want to pay for their own domains, and thought throwing it up to as many places as possible was going to make Google give them extra traffic and link juice.

Google aint stupid and if you abuse ANY system you can bet they'll start looking at how to stop you.

Web 2.0 stuff can still rank very well. Web2.0 is not broken. Abusing Web2.0 properties to try and manipulate Google is what's broken, and that was never going to surprise anyone - surely?
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online only

11 years ago

SEO is not for everyone. If I read those WF threads all day long it seems that 90% of people are penalized/de-indexed/out of top 500.

... and that's quite common issue when people are using pre 2011 strategies like one page web2.0s, automated softwares, public private networks, blog comments, social bookmarks, forum profiles, AMR, stuffing their keywords everywhere, publishing rubbish content etc...

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Andyhenry

11 years ago

Originally Posted by online only

SEO is not for everyone. If I read those WF threads all day long it seems that 90% of people are penalized/de-indexed/out of top 500.

... and that's quite common issue when people are using pre 2011 strategies like one page web2.0s, automated softwares, public private networks, blog comments, social bookmarks, forum profiles, AMR, stuffing their keywords everywhere, publishing rubbish content etc...

Yes - it's always interesting to see "SEO companies" posting with a bunch of random links in their sig area.

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Voasi

11 years ago

Buying domains that already have authority and PR is a fantastic way to rank websites in today's algorithm (and that's not changing anytime soon either).

Although, it can be kinda expensive.

Not to "promote" my service, it really is the reason why I setup a new service with high PR links for people. The old tactics of getting 100's of low quality links aren't as great as they use to be.

But getting just a few high pagerank links does WONDERS for your rankings, new or old.

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seoed

11 years ago

Recently I put on a monkey suit and stood on the side of the road with a sign that had the same message on as the adwords message and it drove 3200% more traffic to a landing page in an hour than an adwords campaign did in three weeks.

This is not a joke, is it?
Ok, let me assume you really did that, how much traffic did you get and what about conversions?

What kind of experience did you have with sms marketing?

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jaintechnosoft

11 years ago

Hi Amiramin, firstly you should know about the latest penguin and panda updates. Every time the SEO techniques will be changing, so you cannot depend on same techniques which you have followed. Definately off page strategies like article submission, Directory submission, socal bookmarking are not useless, they are meant for getting quality and quantity backlinks.

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gracyluther

11 years ago

If you are applying wrong strategy for SEO then it doesn`t work. You have to post some good links with quality content.

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