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Trust Flow & Citation Flow - How To Increase?

by Steve Wells
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Do any of you know of a service that can do this?

These seem to be quite a factor in ranking on google right now.

I have seen sites with 0 DA and no PR outranking other sites that have more banklinks, pagelinks, etc, it seems that they these two factors outweigh everything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    You need links from authority sites. That's high PR with dofollow attributes.
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    • Profile picture of the author terryd
      I'm not so sure that's the case either. I've seen high TF and CF values but no PR. If it was as simple as linking from high PR authority sites then at least some of the PR would be passed on but it's not so I don't think it's a PR factor. At a guess , just mass links?

      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      You need links from authority sites. That's high PR with dofollow attributes.
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      • Profile picture of the author smodha
        Originally Posted by terryd View Post

        I'm not so sure that's the case either. I've seen high TF and CF values but no PR. If it was as simple as linking from high PR authority sites then at least some of the PR would be passed on but it's not so I don't think it's a PR factor. At a guess , just mass links?
        I haven't seen that scenario. By definition, high trust & relevant links = PR. This is something I have monitored extensively using MajesticSEO & Ahrefs.

        Granted, I don't have Google's resources but my analysis is working. For example, I am outranking a site with 1000s of backlinks but low TF/CF. With closer inspection, I have found that my competitor's link are low quality blog comments or wiki blasts. With this example, I only needed a few PR1-PR4 links to outrank him/her.
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        • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
          Originally Posted by smodha View Post

          I haven't seen that scenario. By definition, high trust & relevant links = PR. This is something I have monitored extensively using MajesticSEO & Ahrefs.

          Granted, I don't have Google's resources but my analysis is working. For example, I am outranking a site with 1000s of backlinks but low TF/CF. With closer inspection, I have found that my competitor's link are low quality blog comments or wiki blasts. With this example, I only needed a few PR1-PR4 links to outrank him/her.
          Exactly.

          It's easy to think that these metrics are somehow related to how Google sees things.

          If Majestic SEO ranked pages the SERPs would look A LOT different than they do now.

          It's important to do what smodha says: look at the link profile itself. That will tell you a lot more than DA/PA,trustflow etc.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Shortly summarized:

            Citation flow increases with a ton of weak links

            Trust flow increases based on quality links.

            Often you see heavily spammed sites with high CF and low TF

            However both metrics can be insane flawed at times so never rely solely on them.
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        • Profile picture of the author terryd
          Originally Posted by Backlinko View Post


          So Citation and Trust flow are two metrics that better reflect where a site is at.
          I'm starting to think that this is correct and is why I said that you don't necessarily need high PR with dofollow attributes.

          Originally Posted by smodha View Post

          I haven't seen that scenario. By definition, high trust & relevant links = PR. This is something I have monitored extensively using MajesticSEO & Ahrefs.

          Granted, I don't have Google's resources but my analysis is working. For example, I am outranking a site with 1000s of backlinks but low TF/CF. With closer inspection, I have found that my competitor's link are low quality blog comments or wiki blasts. With this example, I only needed a few PR1-PR4 links to outrank him/her.
          So you are saying that high trust and relevant links = PR (which in general I agree with) but what happens when you get high TF/CF numbers (50+) and no PR, how does that work? Does that make them more powerful than a low TF/CF with PR?? I don't think it's as simple as getting high PR domains and pointing them at your site to increase your TF/CF numbers.

          I'm about to get some high CF/TF no PR sites and will see how they positively affect a new site I'm working on. I'm not sure if they will just increase the CF/TF of the site I'm pointing them to or whether they will affect the serp rankings for the site.
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    • Profile picture of the author casestudyhelp
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      You need links from authority sites. That's high PR with dofollow attributes.
      Its not so easy to get dollow link with high pr.
      So, do u know how to find high pr and do follow sites?

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
    Originally Posted by Steve Wells View Post

    Do any of you know of a service that can do this?

    These seem to be quite a factor in ranking on google right now.

    I have seen sites with 0 DA and no PR outranking other sites that have more banklinks, pagelinks, etc, it seems that they these two factors outweigh everything else.
    Keep in mind that PR and DA update periodically (for example, it's been 4+ months since the last PR update).

    So Citation and Trust flow are two metrics that better reflect where a site is at.

    Just build high quality links and both of those metrics will go up. But I wouldn't sweat them too much: the only metric that really matters is search engine traffic.

    If that's increasing then you're doing things right.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Yeah Brian's right. Build quality links (generally high trust and relevancy) and the rest will take care of itself.

    The reason I mentioned dofollow is you want links that pass on the "juice" otherwise your efforts are futile.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
    To be real honest, from what I have seen Trust Flow and Citation Flow seem to outrank the importance of PR and the amount of backlinks.

    Without revealing the niche, I did some research on the competition to my wifes product that she promotes. It seems as though several of her competitors that have less backlinks, and less PR and less of other things according to Market Samurai - Majestic SEO are strong and outrank her on the first page of Google for many of the keywords she used to rank for. She actually was in the top 3 on Google for about 1 year in her niche for several keywords that generated around $70,000 dollars in commission for her that year.

    What these competitors do have that she does not have, since she did not know anything about it, is a high trust factor and citation factor. I did more digging and research and found out exactly how they are doing what they are doing.

    It seems to be that they are buying aged domains with a high PR, and then on those domains that were aged, no matter the name of the domain, even if it is not related word wise to the niche, they are building a basic one page site, with content that is related to the niche or product that is actually being promoted on their money site.

    Then on the aged domain site that they bought, they are directly linking to their money site, so that they are getting a link from a high PR aged site with proven trustability in Googles eyes, even though the domain name is not related to the niche.

    They have done this with many domains, meaning that they have created it seems a small farm of high PR sites, from old aged domains that they purchased specifically for this new trickery.

    At least that is what I have seen. So, that is why I was curious to hear from others who may have more experience with this type of trickery, lol!

    Anyway, where can you purchase aged high PR domains for reasonable prices?
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    • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
      Originally Posted by Steve Wells View Post

      To be real honest, from what I have seen Trust Flow and Citation Flow seem to outrank the importance of PR and the amount of backlinks.

      Without revealing the niche, I did some research on the competition to my wifes product that she promotes. It seems as though several of her competitors that have less backlinks, and less PR and less of other things according to Market Samurai - Majestic SEO are strong and outrank her on the first page of Google for many of the keywords she used to rank for. She actually was in the top 3 on Google for about 1 year in her niche for several keywords that generated around $70,000 dollars in commission for her that year.

      What these competitors do have that she does not have, since she did not know anything about it, is a high trust factor and citation factor. I did more digging and research and found out exactly how they are doing what they are doing.

      It seems to be that they are buying aged domains with a high PR, and then on those domains that were aged, no matter the name of the domain, even if it is not related word wise to the niche, they are building a basic one page site, with content that is related to the niche or product that is actually being promoted on their money site.

      Then on the aged domain site that they bought, they are directly linking to their money site, so that they are getting a link from a high PR aged site with proven trustability in Googles eyes, even though the domain name is not related to the niche.

      They have done this with many domains, meaning that they have created it seems a small farm of high PR sites, from old aged domains that they purchased specifically for this new trickery.

      At least that is what I have seen. So, that is why I was curious to hear from others who may have more experience with this type of trickery, lol!

      Anyway, where can you purchase aged high PR domains for reasonable prices?
      You nailed it on the head. The url doesn't matter as long as the content of the page is related to the product, niche and keyword your trying to rank for. Another factor I always check when looking at purchasing a high PR domain and is the number of backlinks, now this isn't an exact science and doesn't ring true for every high PR domain, but the amount of back links should be an indication of whether the PR is true or not, if a domain with a PR2 has no backlinks then that is a good indication that the PR is false.

      Always check the referring domains of a high PR site as well, if it's full of low quality spam backlinks, then it should be a fair warning to stay away.

      But as pointed out, high PR domains will help you push through the rankings, relevant high PR links with help you dominate rankings either quickly for low/medium competition niches, or with a little bit of persistence, with highly competitive niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    As said above, if your site is getting Google search engine traffic and it is on progressive mode then you are at good path.. whether your site has pr/da or not..
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
      Originally Posted by Hansons View Post

      As said above, if your site is getting Google search engine traffic and it is on progressive mode then you are at good path.. whether your site has pr/da or not..
      Lol, did you even read what I posted in my thread above yours?
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  • Profile picture of the author semaphorev
    Trust = PR + GSE impression + Content + check Glink of outgoing links
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    I'm late but here's my response:

    Trust flow = authority links in various topics
    Citation flow = raw number of links

    Trust flow is guided more by quality whereas citation flow is by quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    To increase the TF, build links from high quality domains. Remember, quality wins over quantity. Focus more on increasing TF than CF. If trust flow increases, citation flow should also increase.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenifersoflous
    Trust Flow impacting SERP. From my website ranking analysis i found the decent improvement in SERP for High competition keywords like realtors & real estate agents. whenever the trust flow increased.

    Trust flow increasing while back links from high trust flow Niche websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by jenifersoflous View Post

      Trust Flow impacting SERP. From my website ranking analysis i found the decent improvement in SERP for High competition keywords like realtors & real estate agents. whenever the trust flow increased.
      Trust Flow is a metric, not a ranking signal. It goes the other way around. Majestic just reports what their spiders see, and what their own proprietary algorithm makes out of that data.
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  • Profile picture of the author mizokidsgames
    Yea, as Mr.Smodha says: it's all about getting good quality links from authority sites. That's high PR with dofollow attributes.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by mizokidsgames View Post

      Yea, as Mr.Smodha says: it's all about getting good quality links from authority sites. That's high PR with dofollow attributes.
      you can do this with links, press releases, within those do follows too, and social signals, but I think the first two i mentioned are much better.

      Press releases if done right with correct SEO, can get HUGE results.
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