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Guaranteed seo results!!!

by RestlessBlaze
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I was searching some projects on freelancer.com . There i saw one project where employer was asking for guaranteed top 10 position in google and it should stay there for 3 months.

Last, i heard anyone who says we guarantee top 10 results shouldn't be trusted. But, i see lot of people bidding. Can someone tell me, if these seo specialists know something better than wf members?
#guaranteed #results #seo
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Yeah depends how competitive the keyword is he wants to rank for.
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    • Profile picture of the author Serpentis
      Originally Posted by thedanbrown View Post

      Yeah depends how competitive the keyword is he wants to rank for.
      doesn´t get more competitive then payday loans
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  • Profile picture of the author RestlessBlaze
    how come anyone can bid and give guarantee that page will remain on page 1 for 3 months? seems something fishy there. These claims are made by people having 15,20 reviews on freelancer.
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  • Profile picture of the author sree94
    I think, if there is one thing I have learned about SEO, it's that there are NO guarantees!
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Farmer
    Originally Posted by RestlessBlaze View Post

    I was searching some projects on freelancer.com . There i saw one project where employer was asking for guaranteed top 10 position in google and it should stay there for 3 months.

    Last, i heard anyone who says we guarantee top 10 results should be trusted. But, i see lot of people bidding. Can someone tell me, if these seo specialists know something better than wf members?

    https://www.freelancer.com/projects/...ds-Google.html
    No one can guarantee results (technically), but for example 99.9% of the time the rankings I go after I get.

    So I'm sure this is the case with the people bidding.

    Based on their past experience they're pretty confident in their abilities.
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    • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
      Originally Posted by Simon Farmer View Post

      No one can guarantee results (technically), but for example 99.9% of the time the rankings I go after I get.

      So I'm sure this is the case with the people bidding.

      Based on their past experience they're pretty confident in their abilities.
      This. Normally if you handle your On-Page SEO correctly, build high quality manual backlinks, and post high quality, revelant content, you can be pretty confident that you will rank, if you have prior experience ranking other niche sites in the past.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        SEO CAN be guaranteed. Its just has to be full SEO where the SEO provider does the keyword research as well. If you have a traffic target then the SEO can match the traffic with relevant terms.

        However most people at WF tell the SEO what they want to rank for and the customer quite often has no idea about competition and difficulty for a keyword.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          However most people at WF tell the SEO what they want to rank for and the customer quite often has no idea about competition and difficulty for a keyword.
          Then you hit them with a running cost, and they choke on their own tongues and piss off down the road to spend $10k o Fiverr linkblasts

          Give me
          1. A site in good historical SEO standing
          2. Control of onsite content
          3. Money

          And I will rank for any keyword you want.

          Due to the almighty influx Cowboys, poisoning the SEO market with their nonsense work. 99.99999% of people who get referred to me. Fail on all 3 pre-qualifiers.
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        • Profile picture of the author RestlessBlaze
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          If you have a traffic target then the SEO can match the traffic with relevant terms.
          what does this mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    There was a fellow here on WF who ran a WSO for a long time offering guaranteed top ten rankings. He used a blog network to fulfill the offer with. I don't think he refunded any if any payments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by RestlessBlaze View Post

    Last, i heard anyone who says we guarantee top 10 results should be trusted. But, i see lot of people bidding. Can someone tell me, if these seo specialists know something better than wf members?
    A lot of SEO services will 'guarantee' a top ranking but won't actually give you a time frame for that ranking. They just say "you will get there eventually, but SEO takes time so who knows how long it will take" which effectively nulls any refund policy they may have hinted at, because they can always just say you'll get there 'eventually'.
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Originally Posted by RestlessBlaze View Post

    I was searching some projects on freelancer.com . There i saw one project where employer was asking for guaranteed top 10 position in google and it should stay there for 3 months.

    Last, i heard anyone who says we guarantee top 10 results should be trusted. But, i see lot of people bidding. Can someone tell me, if these seo specialists know something better than wf members?
    First of all have my full respect to all seniors and friends at warrior forums and no offence please.. but...

    If anybody says that he have direct contact with Big G's employee and can rank you or give you the secret math to get ranks that too may be fake, since Big G shall be more smart to keep this all private and secured.

    Now how somebody can provide top 10 ranks guaranteed... I dont think but one thing is possible. If someone want to have top 10 penalty guarantee that is possible.. in today's negative seo market..

    So anybody whoever having confusions with such ads etc shall be aware that nobody nobody can guarantee any ranks... we are seo people we can just try our level best rest god knows or Big G knows...

    We are in 2013 world where animals of different names and versions are waiting all time
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      A lot of SEO services will 'guarantee' a top ranking but won't actually give you a time frame for that ranking. They just say "you will get there eventually, but SEO takes time so who knows how long it will take" which effectively nulls any refund policy they may have hinted at, because they can always just say you'll get there 'eventually'.
      Curtis
      We are talking about the real world here. Not the WSO/Warriors for hire section. Any professional SEO would have all sorts of progress bench marking in place for clients. Your living in the $99.99 Injen SEO services box for too long. Climb out of there and join us in reality.

      Originally Posted by andishm View Post

      First of all have my full respect to all seniors and friends at warrior forums and no offence please.. but...

      If anybody says that he have direct contact with Big G's employee and can rank you or give you the secret math to get ranks that too may be fake, since Big G shall be more smart to keep this all private and secured.

      Now how somebody can provide top 10 ranks guaranteed... I dont think but one thing is possible. If someone want to have top 10 penalty guarantee that is possible.. in today's negative seo market..

      So anybody whoever having confusions with such ads etc shall be aware that nobody nobody can guarantee any ranks... we are seo people we can just try our level best rest god knows or Big G knows...

      We are in 2013 world where animals of different names and versions are waiting all time
      No one needs any hotline to Google to rank. The beauty of business online is that pretty much anyone can enter any market and present themselves as an authority.
      • The market research is done and freely available
      • The search volume and commercial intent data is freely available
      • The SERPs competition data is freely available
      Everything is done for you in terms of research and data really. The key to it all is being able to
      1. Have the ability process and interprit the data "correctly"
      2. Duplicate or improve the product to fit the needs of the market
      3. Have the ability to outperform the competition in SERPs


      It's that simple.
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      • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        • The market research is done and freely available
        • The search volume and commercial intent data is freely available
        • The SERPs competition data is freely available
        Everything is done for you in terms of research and data really. The key to it all is being able to
        1. Have the ability process and interprit the data "correctly"
        2. Duplicate or improve the product to fit the needs of the market
        3. Have the ability to outperform the competition in SERPs
        Can somebody please ban this member? he is analyzing information, debunking myths and explaining the SEO secret sauce... please ban him immediately lol
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      • Profile picture of the author RestlessBlaze
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        Curtis
        We are talking about the real world here. Not the WSO/Warriors for hire section. Any professional SEO would have all sorts of progress bench marking in place for clients. Your living in the $99.99 Injen SEO services box for too long. Climb out of there and join us in reality.



        No one needs any hotline to Google to rank. The beauty of business online is that pretty much anyone can enter any market and present themselves as an authority.
        • The market research is done and freely available
        • The search volume and commercial intent data is freely available
        • The SERPs competition data is freely available
        Everything is done for you in terms of research and data really. The key to it all is being able to
        1. Have the ability process and interprit the data "correctly"
        2. Duplicate or improve the product to fit the needs of the market
        3. Have the ability to outperform the competition in SERPs


        It's that simple.
        care to explain more?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
          Originally Posted by RestlessBlaze View Post

          care to explain more?
          LOLZ
          • My post was lengthy
          • I used bullet points
          • I ended it with "It's that simple"

          For a more comprehensive answer to your questions, you will find all the info needed here

          All The Information You Will Ever Need To Rank Your Site
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          • Profile picture of the author RestlessBlaze
            Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

            LOLZ
            • My post was lengthy
            • I used bullet points
            • I ended it with "It's that simple"

            For a more comprehensive answer to your questions, you will find all the info needed here

            All The Information You Will Ever Need To Rank Your Site
            Lol, i know, you said its simple

            How could i know, what links i should build to gain no. 1spot. Everything else,i can analyze. Its spoon feeding? Well other guy just handed you spoon, lets try spoon feeding atleast once in lifetime
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  • Profile picture of the author ringer37
    I work mainly with clients who want to rank for a keyword in a specific area. When I started out I wouldn't make guarantees...but by this point I can guarantee a first page ranking after I take a look at the keywords. Normally I can get first page within 3 months max for local keywords, usually much sooner. But just to cover my but I never guarantee first by rankings BY a specific date. And its worked out well for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      You guys have to leave the forums to get your brains clear, seo is not only ranking its getting relevant traffic and converting it. The more you obsesse on ranking number one of google or any other search engine you are bound to fail.
      Create kick ass content , and marketing the shit out of it.
      Thats how you rank. Links will fly in without you realising it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Originally Posted by RestlessBlaze View Post

    care to explain more?
    Aww c'mon Kevin, you have time, don't you? Here, you may borrow my spoon!
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Wait...just to make sure I've got this straight...

    OP, you:

    1. Found a project on Freelancer where someone was asking for "guaranteed" Top 10 results on Google
    2. Found lots of freelancers applying for the job
    3. Heard that results can't be guaranteed, but now you're confused and think maybe they CAN?

    Does that about sum it up?

    Look, I can post a job on Freelancer asking for someone to create me (and guarantee) a social networking site like FB, get me 10M users, and $10M in revenue per month.

    Freelancers can apply for the job and guarantee me whatever they'd like, offering their services for $100, $200, $500, etc.

    IMO, the job creator on Freelance doesn't know what he's doing and plenty of freelancers are applying to take advantage of that. The entire thing is likely destined for failure.

    The fact that this job posting on Freelancer is convincing to you tells me you probably shouldn't be buying any SEO packages or info products for the foreseeable future...
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  • Profile picture of the author foisontech
    It totally depend on keyword competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author muxin
      I think what they really mean is you don't have to pay if they don't deliver the result, or they give you money back guarantee if you pay upfront. I don't think anyone can give 100% guarantee on the result because it depends on many things.

      I'm also selling this kind of service but usually for a "guaranteed results" service I will only accept keywords with 300,000 direct competitors or less, also the website is not being penalized and in a good condition. Usually we also make a deal about the time limit before starting the project.

      I'd say if you have time and you know SEO you better do it yourself, mostly people buy my service because they have multiple websites to rank so they don't have time, or simply because they don't have any clue about SEO.
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      • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
        Originally Posted by muxin View Post

        I think what they really mean is you don't have to pay if they don't deliver the result, or they give you money back guarantee if you pay upfront. I don't think anyone can give 100% guarantee on the result because it depends on many things.

        I'm also selling this kind of service but usually for a "guaranteed results" service I will only accept keywords with 300,000 direct competitors or less, also the website is not being penalized and in a good condition. Usually we also make a deal about the time limit before starting the project.

        I'd say if you have time and you know SEO you better do it yourself, mostly people buy my service because they have multiple websites to rank so they don't have time, or simply because they don't have any clue about SEO.
        If you are using the number of ''direct competitors'' to analyze your competition then it must be really accurate, really. :rolleyes:

        About the site not being penalized I'm pretty sure that if you backlink them like you did on your own website Overview: http://rankapex.com/ on Ahrefs | Awesome Screenshot they will have a very short span of life.

        +1 For the Kevin's posts, whoever isn't a complete retard SEO wonna be will be able to offer a guarantee on their work and an accurate ETA to get on page one, everything else is total BS as always. I never ever took someone's money without providing the promised results, and if I failed for some reason they got their money back, if you aren't able to make reasonable prediction/analyze in terms of ranking then you'd better move on something else.

        To the OP , 95% of people on freelancer are simply offering a more expensive fiverr crap solutions , stop searching cheap solution and get real.
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  • Profile picture of the author juiceflow
    Has he specified the keyword(s) that he wants to rank for? If so, you really can't guarantee that. If he wants the service provider to find keywords within the niche, then you can find a couple dozen with low competition and try to rank for all of them. I can usually rank for at the very least 30% of the keywords that I target on a given project.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      (Harsh, but not directly aimed at anyone. More of a general comment to the would be "SEO Expert" or any type of business really)

      If you can't guarantee delivery within a reasonable margin of what your customer is paying for, and expects to be delivered.

      Then do the world a favor, and don't take their money. Don't make bids for jobs they offer, Don't lie to them about being something your not "SEO Expert".

      Just gtfo of the SEO business, and take that dog with you. You are playing with peoples livings, businesses, and websites, with every button you click.

      The words maybe, might, or probably, should not be in an "Experts" vocabulary when dealing with any client.
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  • Profile picture of the author perseystadium
    I think many of freelance in freelancer.com can't guarantee 100% complete on SEO job but if job is not complete you still must pay. Anyway you may refund some money back.
    In my opinion I think SEO can't guarantee 100% because it has many various way to do depend on various factor.
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  • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
    Originally Posted by RestlessBlaze View Post

    I was searching some projects on freelancer.com . There i saw one project where employer was asking for guaranteed top 10 position in google and it should stay there for 3 months.

    Last, i heard anyone who says we guarantee top 10 results shouldn't be trusted. But, i see lot of people bidding. Can someone tell me, if these seo specialists know something better than wf members?
    In terms of SEO there is no difference between seo specialist and wf members because in reality we are all learning here. There is no guaranteed results but seo's can determine the closest ranking as possible depending on their experience, abilities and strategies. In my experience it took 2 to 3 months above to take top 1 in rankings and now I need to maintain this rankings because of the competition and climate change in Google.
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