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Too many Backlinks to quick?

by ZapLabeler
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Ack!

I'm very concerned guys and want to get some feedback from those more knowledgeable than I.

I started my business in March, got my website up and started getting it out there. I wanted to boost my organic rankings and turned to a vendor here on WF. I got a basic SEO package with x links, press releases, etc... Got a few hundred backlinks out of the deal.

Fast forward to about 3 weeks ago. I got another package from a different vendor that has had nothing but good reviews saying that it's effective and safe. He said there would be 1000'ish links. Ahrefs says there are 2100 now.

My organic rankings have done very well although not on first pages yet.

My concern rises because I just checked backlinks to my page from Google Webmaster Tools... the result is in the attached image.

Srsly? 0_o Should I be concerned? Should I start disavowing certain domains that are putting forth most of the links? wordpress and ezbukz have the bulk: 7700 in one and 1770 in the other.

The last thing I want to do is get my site de-indexed as it's a tangible product webpage.

Advice, comments?


(by the way, how do I get an image in the post as opposed to an attachment?)
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#backlinks #deindex #quick
  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    The amount of backlinks in a short amount of time makes no difference. There is no such thing as too many backlinks too quick.

    The problem is the type of backlinks. If a single vendor is creating that many backlinks in a short amount of time, it is pretty obvious they have to be using very low quality links, unless they created something that went viral. The link sellers on WF generally are not smart enough for that though. The quality of the links is what is going to get you screwed eventually.

    By the way, Webmaster Tools is always going to show more links than Ahrefs. Google has far more resources to crawl and index the internet than Ahrefs could possibly hope to have. Nothing against Ahrefs, or any other backlink checking service.
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    • Profile picture of the author dusty7969
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      The amount of backlinks in a short amount of time makes no difference. There is no such thing as too many backlinks too quick.

      The problem is the type of backlinks. If a single vendor is creating that many backlinks in a short amount of time, it is pretty obvious they have to be using very low quality links, unless they created something that went viral. The link sellers on WF generally are not smart enough for that though. The quality of the links is what is going to get you screwed eventually.

      By the way, Webmaster Tools is always going to show more links than Ahrefs. Google has far more resources to crawl and index the internet than Ahrefs could possibly hope to have. Nothing against Ahrefs, or any other backlink checking service.
      I agree with Mike. I would be most concerned with type, quality of the sites, and anchor text.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
    So the question remains... should I disavow those two domains? By 'get you screwed', you mean what exactly? Just non-effective linking, or something more malevolent?
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    You probably won't get deindexed, but I would be concerned about the basics:

    Where they are coming from
    What is the anchor text
    Why are there so many links from the same domains
    Etc...

    Unless there is some serious magic going on here, I would expect a punishment since it's extremely uncommon for this type of scenario to work out well for you. Unfortunately the cat is out of the bag at this point.

    You can try to disavow, but there's no guarantee that it will do much for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post


      Where they are coming from
      What is the anchor text
      Why are there so many links from the same domains
      Etc...

      So the anchor text is varied. I of course chose a few keywords that I wanted to target, but they threw in a hole slew of similarly related but not alike keywords for diversity.

      How the hell does someone pay for SEO that gets 1000 links, and end up with 12k? The guys company has a great reputation for getting this done well and without negative side effects so hopefully it's magic.

      How to tell the difference though?
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Kahuna SEO
    Some of the anchor text for your site is interesting: "Clean stuffed animals" & "elliptical trainer machines". That's what I call varying anchor text but I'm not sure if it is related to your site or not?
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    • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
      Originally Posted by Big Kahuna SEO View Post

      Some of the anchor text for your site is interesting: "Clean stuffed animals" & "elliptical trainer machines". That's what I call varying anchor text but I'm not sure if it is related to your site or not?
      It's not..... bottle filler machine, etc. There were a lot of non-related anchor texts there. I did ask him about it and he said they use those kinds of unrelated things to um... make it not suspicious.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by ZapLabeler View Post

        It's not..... bottle filler machine, etc. There were a lot of non-related anchor texts there. I did ask him about it and he said they use those kinds of unrelated things to um... make it not suspicious.

        That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. You hired an idiot.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Big Kahuna SEO View Post

        Some of the anchor text for your site is interesting: "Clean stuffed animals" & "elliptical trainer machines". That's what I call varying anchor text but I'm not sure if it is related to your site or not?
        Originally Posted by ZapLabeler View Post

        It's not..... bottle filler machine, etc. There were a lot of non-related anchor texts there. I did ask him about it and he said they use those kinds of unrelated things to um... make it not suspicious.
        That's the worst approach to backlinks that I've ever heard (random unrelated keywords).

        Google is all about relevancy, staying focused on keywords is important, even If you don't use exact match keywords you can at least use LSI. Even better, track all your incoming organic SERP keywords, the keywords real people/traffic are searching & use those to vary your anchor-text, alt-text, etc...
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        • Profile picture of the author dusty7969
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          That's the worst approach to backlinks that I've ever heard (random unrelated keywords).

          Google is all about relevancy, staying focused on keywords is important, even If you don't use exact match keywords you can at least use LSI. Even better, track all your incoming organic SERP keywords, the keywords real people/traffic are searching & use those to vary your anchor-text, alt-text, etc...
          I agree, the keywords need to be relevant. My own personal experience was that an anchor text density of 3% for a keyword was fine, but an anchor text density of 7% got that keyword dropped in rankings. This is on the same page.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
    I wish I could thank you twice for that comment. :-p

    So is there anything to be done about it?
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    Sites go viral all the time and have loads of backlinks coming in without being punished. Anchor text is probably going to play a bigger role. Diversify.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
      I look at what people are searching for and gone off of that data. The bright idea of having this guy 'SEO' me, I guess was a bad choice?

      Idiot maybe, but was it bad choice? What sorts of negative things could happen?


      Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

      Sites go viral all the time and have loads of backlinks coming in without being punished. Anchor text is probably going to play a bigger role. Diversify.

      What do you mean when you say 'diversify'? Are you implying that the method that this guy used is valid and works? That I won't be penalized?

      I've gone up in about 30 different keywords, and dropped a couple spots with a few more.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
    Originally Posted by BonusSEO View Post

    Strange shizzle indeed!

    If the diversity isn't too bad it might be ok but as Mike said the quality of those links is probably pretty low. Check a few and see what they look like..if they are dodgy then get to work.

    How do you define 'dodgy'?

    By get to work, do you mean disavow?


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  • Profile picture of the author ZapLabeler
    I have one or two competitors that have tried to pursue legal action to prevent me from proceeding with the manufacture and sales of my machine.... They failed miserably.

    Could this be malicious work by one of their web guys?
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Originally Posted by ZapLabeler View Post

    Ack!
    Srsly? 0_o Should I be concerned? Should I start disavowing certain domains that are putting forth most of the links? wordpress and ezbukz have the bulk: 7700 in one and 1770 in the other.
    ((*Too many backlinks TOO quick))
    You shall not use "disavow tool" until you have got unnatural links message or manual penalty for unnatural links...
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