How can this blog have PR 4?? !!!!!

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This is very very confusing. I just came across http://oshaunderground.blogspot.com and I was just stunned to see the PR of the blog. No content , not a single post still PR 4?? How can this be?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Motson
    Looks like they did lots of link exchanges or perhaps link building via comments etc...

    They also appear to have deleted their posts...

    Anyways, to see the links they have coming in (hence the big PR) follow the following link:
    oshaunderground.blogspot.com - SEMrush's main report for domain)
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    It is no mystery; it is all to do with the number and the pagerank of the sites that point to it.

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author AlbertBarkley
    Yeah thats true that may be after achieving the PR, they would have sell their blog to some one other who must have deleted all the content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by mohsinmallik View Post

    This is very very confusing.
    Not so much, I think. Possibly you need to re-examine your assumptions and beliefs about how page ranks are determined.

    By the way, "blogs" are websites, and websites don't "have page ranks". Only pages have page ranks. What you're referring to as "the page rank of a blog" is actually "the page rank of a blog's home page".

    Page ranks mean less and less, these days. Google has announced their long-term intention of discontinuing publishing them (which some people think will happen quite soon, though I don't, myself: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ar-2013-a.html ), and meanwhile, we can all see for ourselves, from the ever-increasing regularity with which lower-PR pages outrank higher-PR pages in Google's SERP's that page ranks are an increasingly devalued currency.

    Discussions about SEO, ranks and rankings belong here: Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum
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  • Profile picture of the author natebunger
    I kind of noticed that although it's common knowledge, many people are not aware that blogs are websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by natebunger View Post

      I kind of noticed that although it's common knowledge, many people are not aware that blogs are websites.
      I had to explain this to my neighbor a few days ago.

      She wrote a great book and wanted to found a way to sell it and, at least, have an online presence related to.

      I still can remember her saying "No, no, no....I don't want a blog, I want a website..."

      lol
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        I had to explain this to my neighbor a few days ago.

        She wrote a great book and wanted to found a way to sell it and, at least, have an online presence related to.

        I still can remember her saying "No, no, no....I don't want a blog, I want a website..."

        lol
        If you go to Themeforest & look at the HTML template category, then look at comments on the individual HTML templates, a lot of folks have no idea what HTML is. They'll try & install an HTML template on Wordpress & get a CSS error (stylesheet not found). It's funny reading some of those comments. The HTML sales page almost always point out it's an HTML template.

        A lot of people think Wordpress is the only way to build a site/blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by natebunger View Post

      I kind of noticed that although it's common knowledge, many people are not aware that blogs are websites.
      It is common knowledge. It's sad, if people don't know that. But buying domains
      and using WP has made everybody and their brother a webmaster...

      It's sad that people do not know what PR is and how it's calculated. has nothing
      to with content. But peruse the forum. Many SEO guru's swear PR is calculated
      by a number of factors, including the amount of content, subscribers, etc.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Many SEO guru's swear PR is calculated
        by a number of factors, including the amount of content, subscribers, etc.

        Paul
        Internet marketing SEO gurus. I never read that nonsense on main line SEO sites
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Internet marketing SEO gurus. I never read that nonsense on main line SEO sites
          Ah yes, Mike. I never had a name for them. Now I do.

          Originally Posted by patco View Post

          It's really strange how can such a blog to have PR4... Without content... But, I can say only that such a blog can't rank in Search Engines without content, so not a big competitor!
          Oh ye of little faith. I guess you still do not believe that content has nothing
          to do with PR, and I can rank a blog, no content, #1, if the keyword is right.

          Define no content. No content, BS content, crappy content, jibberish content,...
          They are all the same. And yet, many still rank. Why is this stuff such a BIG
          secret?

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by mohsinmallik View Post

    This is very very confusing. I just came across OSHAUnderground and I was just stunned to see the PR of the blog. No content , not a single post still PR 4?? How can this be?
    Content has NOTHING to do with PR. End of story.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
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  • Profile picture of the author mohsinmallik
    Thanks for all your replies. It means, content does not play any role to get PR. It is all about backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    It's really strange how can such a blog to have PR4... Without content... But, I can say only that such a blog can't rank in Search Engines without content, so not a big competitor!
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by patco View Post

      It's really strange how can such a blog to have PR4... Without content... But, I can say only that such a blog can't rank in Search Engines without content, so not a big competitor!
      Seriously?
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  • Profile picture of the author tech84
    it's googles way of giving people who dont understand how the toolbar pr works the finger
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Kahuna SEO
    The answer to this is very simple. THey have links from high PR sites... ONe for instance, networkedblogs.com, has a toolbar pagerank of 7. Not to hard to imagine why the blog in question has a PR4. Toolbar pagerank is easily manipulated and doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes right down to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author darrenlc
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Content has NOTHING to do with PR. End of story.
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      It's sad that people do not know what PR is and how it's calculated. has nothing to with content.

      Paul
      I'm a bit confused by these statements. I thought page rank was passed through external links and internal links from your own domain. Surely if you link from a homepage or a page that has pagerank and 'add new content' then it will pass some PR on to it.

      I will give you an example of what I mean. Here is a link to an internal page to one of my old sites: http://www.yibyab.co.uk/data/1gb-internet-allowance.php. Now this page is PR3 but as far as I'm aware there are not any external backlinks to the page (could be wrong) so it gains the page rank through internal linking.

      In this respect I would say you are both wrong or maybe I'm just misinterperating things?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by darrenlc View Post

        I'm a bit confused by these statements. I thought page rank was passed through external links and internal links from your own domain. Surely if you link from a homepage or a page that has pagerank and 'add new content' then it will pass some PR on to it.

        I will give you an example of what I mean. Here is a link to an internal page to one of my old sites: http://www.yibyab.co.uk/data/1gb-internet-allowance.php. Now this page is PR3 but as far as I'm aware there are not any external backlinks to the page (could be wrong) so it gains the page rank through internal linking.

        In this respect I would say you are both wrong or maybe I'm just misinterperating things?
        Your internal page could be a blank page (seriously) & still be a PR3.

        Content has nothing to do with PR, it's all links creating the PR.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexzeto
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post


          Content has nothing to do with PR, it's all links creating the PR.
          This website is another good example that backlinks are meaningless,what keyword do you think this website is ranking for ?

          Backlinks = PR = ???????

          I forget how many time I have seem websites with PR 0 outrank website with pr 5+,just because their content was better !
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Alexzeto View Post

            This website is another good example that backlinks are meaningless,what keyword do you think this website is ranking for ?

            Backlinks = PR = ???????

            I forget how many time I have seem websites with PR 0 outrank website with pr 5+,just because their content was better !
            What your seeing is the PR0 page/supporting pages/links are better optimized for that [exact] keyword/phrase.

            When you see a high PR page at the bottom of page #1, it's because they're not targeting that [exact] keyword/phrase. If that same high PR page at the bottom of the 1st page of Google SERPs was targeting the [exact] same keyword/phrase, they would smoke that ranked PR0 page.

            Assumes that PR0 page is actually a PR0 & not needing to be updated on the toolbar PR that we see (check the internal/external supporting links on the PR0 page). Example, If that PR0 is a new page with a bunch of high PR links pointing at the PR0 page, odds are the toolbar PR just hasn't updated yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author darrenlc
          Ok. When put like that now I understand where you are coming from Yukon.
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  • Profile picture of the author mohsinmallik
    Just came across the PageRank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It was too good for me to understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author SiL^Er_HunTeR
    This blog's PageRank is a clear indicator of the power of high quality backlinks !!
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    PageRank is solely based on incoming links and doesn’t have anything to do with the quality of content on the website. Most likely the site has acquired several incoming backlinks from high authority sites which were giving the website PR4.
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