Backlinks without content

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Is there any way to build viable backlinks without articles except blog commenting?
#backlinks #content
  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    Define 'Viable.'
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    • Profile picture of the author forth
      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      Define 'Viable.'
      Well, something of value
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  • Profile picture of the author lasersec
    Yes, You can create some valuable back links by Social Networking and Bookmarking.
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  • Profile picture of the author streetpipscom
    You should always acquire QUALITY backlinks...
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  • Profile picture of the author SEODollz
    Sure there are lots of ways, you could contact other websites that might be interested in linking to your site as a resource.

    You could search for broken links that used to point to content similar to yours that has since been removed and suggest that the webmaster fix that link by pointing it to your site.

    You could search for not broken links that point to content similar to yours and suggest that your site should get a link there because your content is in some way superior (more recent, more complete, etc.)

    You can ask businesses that you do business with to give you a link. (Make sure the link makes sense!)

    Just a few tried and true ways to get a link without writing a bunch of content
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    • Profile picture of the author imjustkit
      What is the most efficent way to search for broken links?
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    Social Media is a way...
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  • Profile picture of the author anny1985
    Yes, There are lots of way to build up the links without content.

    - Create video and promote it.
    - Portfolio submission ( This is my favorite )
    - PowerPoint presentation submission
    - Social Sharing
    - Info graphic Creation and submission
    - Create Audio and promote it in audio sharing sites.
    - Research Related Sites and get Side wide links
    - Create Links Via Image Submission

    If want to know more then reach me any time.
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by anny1985 View Post

      Yes, There are lots of way to build up the links without content.

      - Create video and promote it.
      - Portfolio submission ( This is my favorite )
      - PowerPoint presentation submission
      - Social Sharing
      - Info graphic Creation and submission
      - Create Audio and promote it in audio sharing sites.
      - Research Related Sites and get Side wide links
      - Create Links Via Image Submission

      If want to know more then reach me any time.
      Virtually all of those involve content. Just because it's not text does not mean that it's not content.

      Anyways, OP - I don't think you are going to find the answer you are looking for. It's a 'Maybe' at best.
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      • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
        If the reason your asking is because you find it hard to build backlinks with articles, it should not be hard...

        You can buy a super spun article from serpkilla(firstly they write a 100% unique article related to your niche, then spin each sentence 3 times and then also on word level). In addition to the article they also give you a super spun title and description you can use to build hundreds of social bookmarks. All this for just $15.

        You can then use this spun article and spun social bookmark title and description to build allot of quality backlinks.

        just my 2 cents...
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    The only reason articles are associated with backlinks on IM forums is the masses spammed out article sites like EZA in exchange for a free backlink (no article, no link).

    The rest of the world doesn't care about articles, let alone junk/spun articles for the sake of a free backlink.

    If you have a legit site with your own repeat traffic, target same niche sites for backlinks, you would be surprised how many webmasters will give a link just for asking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The only reason articles are associated with backlinks on IM forums is the masses spammed out article sites like EZA in exchange for a free backlink (no article, no link).

      The rest of the world doesn't care about articles, let alone junk/spun articles for the sake of a free backlink.

      If you have a legit site with your own repeat traffic, target same niche sites for backlinks, you would be surprised how many webmasters will give a link just for asking.
      I understand your vision on spun articles, but knowing that I've experienced good results using quality spun articles which are 100% readable and grammatically correct. Using them to build 10 high PR web2.0 sites with related contextual links...
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Arnold JVR View Post

        I understand your vision on spun articles, but knowing that I've experienced good results using quality spun articles which are 100% readable and grammatically correct. Using them to build 10 high PR web2.0 sites with related contextual links...
        Your still building links regardless If the PRn/a web 2.0 exist or not. Might as well skip the junk links, get quality links pointing at the money site & be done with it.

        Web 2.0 links look like unnecessary low value link building to me. No traffic, no PR, what's left?
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        • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Web 2.0 links look like unnecessary low value link building to me. No traffic, no PR, what's left?
          Well, not initially. I would agree that getting a link from a boring, plain old Web 2.0 page is hardly anything impressive. Since most people use them as 'glorified' articles, yeah they are worthless in that sense.

          But so is a piece of steal before it is made into a sword.

          As far as I can tell, Web 2.0's are some of the most promising properties to get links from currently with the advent of new tools like RankWYZ and FCS networker.

          There are some extremely authoritative web 2.0 blogs out there, with plenty of PR - so it's easily demonstrated that WEB 2.0's gather PR as easily as any other page or set of pages.

          Using the two tools mentioned above you can control 1000's of individual domains for very little in terms of investment and despite them not having significant individual PR, when networked together building PR3 and PR4 domains and pages is nearly automatic.

          Of course, unless Google starts updating the PR more regularly that will be much harder to demonstrate effectively in the future - so I'm speaking from purely a historical point of view.

          My point is that they aren't as worthless as other links because of how well they can be manipulated along with the fact that currently there are tools finally being made public that put that ability into the average user's hands.

          There will still be a knowledge gap that people will have to overcome to get to that point - none the less, writing them off as worthless isn't completely accurate in my book.

          But they aren't for everyone.

          I'm not debating you Yukon, just saying there's another side to the coin.
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          • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
            Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

            Using the two tools mentioned above you can control 1000's of individual domains for very little in terms of investment and despite them not having significant individual PR, when networked together building PR3 and PR4 domains and pages is nearly automatic.
            Very interesting point of view, I control hundreds, not thousands and I dont use the solutions you mentioned above, I created my own solution with free pieces of software (I am thinking about posting a tutorial here soon about it, for people who want to start their own network, but that is another story), my question here GOY is how do you use the backlinks from the Web 2.0 properties? do you post any content within the Web 2.0 property and get contextual link? is it the content readable or just spun content? do you use site wide links?

            I have used contextual backlinks, with readable content mixed with videos/images and backlinks and it has helped me to give some traffic to the money making properties, and to rank to some medium terms, but I am curious about your approach.
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        • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Your still building links regardless If the PRn/a web 2.0 exist or not. Might as well skip the junk links, get quality links pointing at the money site & be done with it.

          Web 2.0 links look like unnecessary low value link building to me. No traffic, no PR, what's left?
          It's true that you won't get any traffic from the web2.0, but it does help ranking. If the domain on which your subdomain web2.0 property is created has a high PR of say 9 like wordpress the trust from the domain flows through to your website, the url itself will have no PR but residing on a high PR domain counts. Using relevant content also counts. I use Majestic SEO for my backlink analysis because they are a search engine in itself therefore the backlink data is pretty accurate. It shows how much citation and trust flow a backlink gives you from the domain it resides on and from the url. These web2.0 properties I create are also optimized for my main keyword and also ranks in Google, yet lower than my actual page ofcourse. For example one of my sites ranks #3 on the first page, and I got two web2.0 properties ranking on page 3, one on page 4, 2 on page 7 etc.

          I also build backlinks to these web2.0 properties to rank them higher and to boost their Page PR(not domain) to atleast 1. The link juice from the backlinks pointing to these web2.0's flows through to my website.

          The most powerful backlink is a backlink coming from a High PR Page(not domain except if homepage) with relevant content that also ranks high on Google.

          What is your understanding of the most powerful backlink or a quality backlink? And how do you go about getting them, please share...
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            Originally Posted by Arnold JVR View Post

            It's true that you won't get any traffic from the web2.0, but it does help ranking. If the domain on which your subdomain web2.0 property is created has a high PR of say 9 like wordpress the trust from the domain flows through to your website, the url itself will have no PR but residing on a high PR domain counts.

            Yeah, except that is not true at all. There is no direct link path from the homepage to your page, so there is no value gained from the root domain.
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            • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              Yeah, except that is not true at all. There is no direct link path from the homepage to your page, so there is no value gained from the root domain.
              Hi, the homepage does not link to you yes but being on a domain with high PR DOES give you more ranking power than being on a domain with less PR. Majectic SEO shows the citation flow and trust flow of each domain your backlinks is coming from although your backlink is not on the actual homepage.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                Originally Posted by Arnold JVR View Post

                Hi, the homepage does not link to you yes but being on a domain with high PR DOES give you more ranking power than being on a domain with less PR. Majectic SEO shows the citation flow and trust flow of each domain your backlinks is coming from although your backlink is not on the actual homepage.
                And what Majestic says has NOTHING to do with how Google sees it.
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                • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  And what Majestic says has NOTHING to do with how Google sees it.
                  No one knows if Google takes this into regard regarding ranking, but in my real world ranking experience it must count, my rankings are proof of that...

                  According to Google Ranking Factors a link coming from an aged domain is "HOT", domains with high PR are definitely aged...

                  I hope this helps your theory.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                    Originally Posted by Arnold JVR View Post

                    No one knows if Google takes this into regard regarding ranking, but in my real world ranking experience it must count, my rankings are proof of that...

                    According to Google Ranking Factors a link coming from an aged domain is "HOT", domains with high PR are definitely aged...

                    I hope this helps your theory.
                    Domains with high PR are not "aged". You can have a relatively new domain that has a high PR.

                    The homepage PR has nothing to do with the value of the link on some insignificant internal page you created on a 2.0 site.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
                      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                      Domains with high PR are not "aged". You can have a relatively new domain that has a high PR.

                      The homepage PR has nothing to do with the value of the link on some insignificant internal page you created on a 2.0 site.
                      A new domain won't reach PR 7,8 or 9 within a year. You have no evidence for what you are stating as a fact. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on their own experience, and in my experience my common sense tells me that it does count...
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                      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                        Originally Posted by Arnold JVR View Post

                        A new domain won't reach PR 7,8 or 9 within a year. You have no evidence for what you are stating as a fact. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on their own experience, and in my experience my common sense tells me that it does count...
                        You've went from zero value 2.0 PRn/a pages with no traffic to PR9 pages in a single thread.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Arnold JVR
                          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                          You've went from zero value 2.0 PRn/a pages with no traffic to PR9 pages in a single thread.
                          Hi, I never said the homepage PR of the web2.0's I'm using is PR0 or PRn/a. The only time I talked about low PR is the PR of the page your content on these web2.0 properties are, which I boost to PR 1 with backlinks. My point out of my own experience is that if you use web2.0 sites which the domain has high PR of say 7,8 or 9 it counts allot more than from building a page on a web2.0 site which the homepage has PRn/a.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingking872
    Yes there are but backlinks like that are not really effective, having backlinks with interesting, relevant and related content is much more powerful.
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  • Profile picture of the author imjustkit
    Soo... no one has answered my question yet. Does anyone know what the most efficent way of finding broken links is?
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      Originally Posted by imjustkit View Post

      Soo... no one has answered my question yet. Does anyone know what the most efficent way of finding broken links is?
      Scraping for High PR pages that are sending 404 errors, recreating the content and sending a request to the Webmaster where the original content was so they give you the backlink
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        Originally Posted by patadeperro View Post

        Scraping for High PR pages that are sending 404 errors, recreating the content and sending a request to the Webmaster where the original content was so they give you the backlink
        Thanks, for the help but how exactly do I "scrape for High PR pages that are sending 404 errors"?

        I am relatively new to link buiding and seo in general so I am not sure how to do it. Thank you for your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I don't see any value in 2.0's that only exist for SEO. You have to build links to those 2.0 pages otherwise it might as well be a forum profile page (no value). Since your already taking the time to build the 2.0 pages, might as well be out building quality links to the money page.

    Just my opinion here but 2.0 looks like a waste of time, even If there's software to make it easier to build.

    I guess If the niche was something where a legit site would never allow you to add your link, something like payday loans, etc... then you wouldn't have very many options for link building. Still, I just don't see the value in 2.0.
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    my question here GOY is how do you use the backlinks from the Web 2.0 properties?
    It depends on the goal and target. I've already spent hours writing about this in the past.

    Originally Posted by yukon View Post

    I don't see any value in 2.0's that only exist for SEO. You have to build links to those 2.0 pages otherwise it might as well be a forum profile page (no value). Since your already taking the time to build the 2.0 pages, might as well be out building quality links to the money page.

    Just my opinion here but 2.0 looks like a waste of time, even If there's software to make it easier to build.

    I guess If the niche was something where a legit site would never allow you to add your link, something like payday loans, etc... then you wouldn't have very many options for link building. Still, I just don't see the value in 2.0.
    I'll let Google know that their blogspot blog is as useful as a profile link to the people they link out to.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    I agree with a lot of the feedback here. You need social media or perhaps forum and profile creation. Those works.

    However, I must always recommend you focus on content marketing. Quality content is really one proven way to rank faster in SERPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Without conent you can get some good links from social sites like, facebook, twitter and google+
    Specially links from google+ are of more value.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnsmith789
    The high PR directory submissions, search engine submissions, social bookmarking and social media is a best way to get backlinks without content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Greene
    Web 2.0 links look like unnecessary low value link building to me. No traffic, no PR, what's left?
    New properties may have got no PR but if I create some properties they are likely to get PR. Also, I really doubt this Page Rank method will stay or not because for the last 8-9 months there has been no PR update.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheLooper
    I would think of web2.0 links as quality links if backlinks are wrapped in high quality unique content.

    As for backlinks without content? It has a meaning if the page/domain has high authority and relevant to your niche, a quality site (low overall OBL´s for better juice flow).
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian William
    yes, with youtube you could upload video and build for it backlinks or build backlinks for social network.
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