Building Anchors with NO Keywords vs Keywords..?

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Hello

I was wondering if anyone has ever tested using no keywords and just using misc and URL-as-anchor as the anchors.

But of course putting them contextually within content that has keywords you want to rank for.

I am curious of how this compares to using keywords w a reasonable ratio. Is it much less effective?
#anchors #building #keywords
  • Profile picture of the author coreypaulotten
    Yes I have and I actually have done tons of research in this regard.

    It all depends on how many backlinks you have. You don't want EVERY backlink you make to have your keyword in it. That shows the search engines your backlinks may be fake.

    Before the Panda updates you could do that with keywords and get ranked but since the changes, you can't just make a ton of backlinks. They quality of the content comes into play. As well as the social interaction.

    Those are the two primary factors that come into play.

    The backlinks should be 60% Misc words. and 40% Keywords mixed with direct link.

    With the new update. It isn't the keywords that are targeted but the words individually.

    For instance. If you are targeting. "Make Money Online"

    "Make" Would have to be in the post the most.
    "Money" Would be in the post the second most
    "Online" would be third.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEODollz
      Originally Posted by coreypaulotten View Post


      The backlinks should be 60% Misc words. and 40% Keywords mixed with direct link.
      You got a source on those stats cowboy?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I know Google looks at plain text surrounding internal hyperlinks, even If that plain text is image alt-text (still plain text on the text cache). I'm sure they do the same thing on the backlink page/s. Good enough for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bit Designs
    Google really don't care about anchors. Why would they? If I link to my website, I could link the url, or put the url as a "click here" link, or many other variations. The only time Google care is with unnatural looking anchor text, such as using keywords too much.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
      I guess maybe I didn't expalin myself good enoguh.

      Imagine I want to rank a site for Cowboy Boots.

      By default, I'd make my backlink portfolio simliar to this:

      Anchor Text Spinner

      Where 10% is exact match, 20% as partial match, 40% URLS and brand, and then 30% as generic.

      However, what if I was lazy and did all URL and brand and Generic, no keywrods? But I made sure to have my links that point to my money site to be within content that has my target keywords?

      Would it work as well as the former?

      Or would it even look unnatural that way?
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      • Profile picture of the author online only
        Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

        I guess maybe I didn't expalin myself good enoguh.

        Imagine I want to rank a site for Cowboy Boots.

        By default, I'd make my backlink portfolio simliar to this:

        Anchor Text Spinner

        Where 10% is exact match, 20% as partial match, 40% URLS and brand, and then 30% as generic.

        However, what if I was lazy and did all URL and brand and Generic, no keywrods? But I made sure to have my links that point to my money site to be within content that has my target keywords?

        Would it work as well as the former?

        Or would it even look unnatural that way?
        10% ripoff tool, 90% rubbish

        Don't be lazy when building links, you won't get too far. Just my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author clean99
    I think eventually you will reach the desired results but it will take longer. I noticed that when you use your main kws for anchor text, the site actually moves up much more, but you still have to keep your main kw anchor down. For EMDs I keep it at about 4-5%, for not EMD I don't go over 10%
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    for EMD I'd think you could go higher as it woudl then be a brand link also... ?
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    • Profile picture of the author clean99
      Technically you are right but in my experience if its too high your rankings will drop. I mean it depends, for example your main kw is "buy best dog pillows" and your site is buybestdogpillows.com. Buy Best Dog Pillows doesn't really sound like a brand name so Google might still penalize you. I think Google has its own way of distinguishing what they consider to be a brand name and what they consider to be not a brand name.

      I noticed that my "brand" sites have been performing better than EMDs in the long term, although I would keep my anchor text the same for both - about 8%. That's why recently I started to concentrate more on creating brand sites rather than EMDs.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    There's no magic percentage.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    Ripoff tool? Its free.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by coreypaulotten View Post

      Yes I have and I actually have done tons of research in this regard.

      It all depends on how many backlinks you have. You don't want EVERY backlink you make to have your keyword in it. That shows the search engines your backlinks may be fake.

      Before the Panda updates you could do that with keywords and get ranked but since the changes, you can't just make a ton of backlinks.
      Panda had nothing to do with backlinks.


      Originally Posted by coreypaulotten View Post

      The backlinks should be 60% Misc words. and 40% Keywords mixed with direct link.

      Originally Posted by SEODollz View Post

      You got a source on those stats cowboy?
      The worst thing anyone could do is take SEO or IM advice from someone that fell for Empower Network... Check the signature.


      Originally Posted by coreypaulotten View Post

      With the new update. It isn't the keywords that are targeted but the words individually.

      For instance. If you are targeting. "Make Money Online"

      "Make" Would have to be in the post the most.
      "Money" Would be in the post the second most
      "Online" would be third.
      So if I accidently used the word 'no' second most in my post, I would instead rank for 'Make No Money Online'? :rolleyes:

      That is what happens with Empower Network though, so that would be fitting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kael41
    Yukon is dead on: there is NO magical percentage to obtain for anchor levelling statistically..just what some seo guru's are telling you. Unless Google announces tomorrow what variable the spiders plug your content into and sorts/ranks based on lsi incusion and other variables, we're all left with rubbing our crystal balls.

    That being said, be smart about it. I've got a bunch of sites ranking for high level/exposure money keywords that do NOT have any abundance of anchor keyword targetting. Now how is that possible? Simply because Google understands contextually what my page/domain/site is all about. From the structure of the page, metadata, and links coming in AND going out.

    It's a complete mind/sitemap that you need to plan for, not just simple anchor text.
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