Hiring a Freelancer SEO or A Seo Agency?

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I would like to ask you who you would prefer to hire for content driven and high tier (content focused) seo services (guest posts, infographics, blog management), a seo freelancer owner of a mid in popularity internet marketing blog or a seo company?

Just to make it clear I am just trying to find out if it's better someone to market his business as a seo company or a freelancer using his blog for lead generation, plus which way should be used when you target seo agencies to resell your services and which way when you target small business owners
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  • Profile picture of the author seonutshell
    I would always go for the company, as they are more likely to have the correct liability insurance.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Hiring a Freelancer SEO or A Seo Agency?
    Originally Posted by kochtgr View Post

    I would like to ask you who you would prefer to hire for content driven and high tier (content focused) seo services (guest posts, infographics, blog management), a seo freelancer owner of a mid in popularity internet marketing blog or a seo company?
    Never in a million years would I hire an SEO for content.

    That's like hiring a plumber to fly an airplane.

    Site/page optimization doesn't mean the SEO needs to be creating content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Never in a million years would I hire an SEO for content.

      That's like hiring a plumber to fly an airplane.

      Site/page optimization doesn't mean the SEO needs to be creating content.
      I can confirm, that using plumbers may cause problems.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Never in a million years would I hire an SEO for content.

      That's like hiring a plumber to fly an airplane.

      Site/page optimization doesn't mean the SEO needs to be creating content.
      Once again this board's limited understanding of the scope of SEO reveals itself. Quite a few SEOs have a writing staff. That IS the job of many SEOs. Many business owners would not have the time or interest to find their own writers for the purpose of SEO. Whether its for a linkbait campaign, for outreach, or honing a page for LSI, SEO can and does involve content creation many many many times

      Plumbers have no overlap with pilots but ranking content is central to SEO and that means being able to recognize content that will rank and even get links. Its very often part of full service SEO to provide that content.
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  • Profile picture of the author alphaomegalady
    Agree, if you must then hire a freelance writer for the content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by kochtgr View Post

    I would like to ask you who you would prefer to hire for content driven and high tier (content focused) seo services (guest posts, infographics, blog management), a seo freelancer owner of a mid in popularity internet marketing blog or a seo company?
    OP the problem with this question is that it supposes a difference where one may not even exist. Most SEO companies are started by one central figure that hires everyone else so he's pretty much a freelancer that hires other people to do parts of SEO. Many Freelancers do the same on a sub-contracted basis.

    Plus unless the SEO is local you will never know whether an agency has many full time employees. In many cases they are the same as freelancers.

    I would always go for the company, as they are more likely to have the correct liability insurance.
    Unless you have an extremely incompetent SEO that creates content for your money sites liability insurance means nothing. In the environment of a secret algo such as Google you will have an almost impossible time of proving liability.
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  • Profile picture of the author mumeeb1
    You should hire a freelancer. He will beneficiary from money point of you and also he will always in contect with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author kochtgr
    Guys the point is not comparing a writer with a SEO , of course a SEO will hire writers to write content for his/her campaigns! The question is if you would hire a freelancer or a digital marketing agency for high tier content driven seo services for your business website!
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  • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
    Hire a company if you feel like paying 500% more for SEO services.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Hire us, sir.. WE are well known expert SEO, we do linkbuilding, social submissions, high pr relevant directory blog posts with keyword density 4%-6%. We very eagerly doing everything related to SEO, INBOUND MARKETING, OUTBOUND LINKS and BLOG COMMENTS. check my webzite below, plz..

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    See..? Doesn't matter whether it's "agency" or "freelancer". Both can do a lot of damage to your site.

    So choose carefully... Also don't go with link packages and be aware that the high quality SEO is pretty expensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    for less risk, it's better to hire a professionl seo agency with high credibility,
    but if you know any platform where you are guaranteed to get a professional and experienced seo freelancer, then it could save you couple of bucks! but there is always a risk.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    That would depend on the situation. If you think you are the person who is afraid of risking your online business and you have the money to spend, then perhaps hiring a professional SEO is a good 'less risky' option. BUT there are also people who like to learn while they build their website.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    My company hired an agency

    thesearchagency.com

    They do deep dive link analysis and our competitors. They provide us detailed info and what to do in the future.

    As far as content writing, ha they wont' do that. And we pay them probably 11k a month.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      As far as content writing, ha they wont' do that. And we pay them probably 11k a month.
      Lol (SEO content).

      I bet that would be something to be proud of.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Lol (SEO content).

        I bet that would be something to be proud of.
        LOL. Literally sat down through a call with our agency, they provided a 60 powerpoint slide. And basically told us we need to focus on our blog and have bloggers write compelling content.

        I guess it's time for the company to hire some fashion bloggers . That shouldn't be hard right? I'm sure they all graduated from FIDM or some fashion school zzzzzzzz.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I don't think there's that much difference and I don't think freelancers are always cheaper then agencies. When people know what they are worth and they have a high demand the prices go up, simple like that.

    You know when dealing with an agency who have an office and all doesn't give that much benefit in most cases. I mean what's it worth when the additional stuff is only busy with generating leads, setting up PPC campaigns and designing websites when all you want is ranking organically in Google.

    You could say I'm a freelancer, but backed up with a dozen or so people so it's like an agency in disguise, I guess most freelancers work like that, no one has the time to do it all their selves unless they have a handful of clients.

    Actually I though about setting up an agency here in Thailand but most people are not very experienced with operating a computer, even the people who studied at universities.

    Surprising fact here in Thailand, you don't even need to go to school to get diploma's/certificates, a friend of mine works here in Pattaya and he has a paper from College for computer engineering. He doesn't even know how Windows works. Why? Cause he never went to school, he only pays each 3 months, actually he works in a restaurant now where you don't need papers but if he wants to work in some official shop or factory or Tesco or 7/11 or any international company they do need papers from college. Those jobs always pay better as they are restricted to the minimum wage of about 200 euro. Restaurants often pay better though cause of tips.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Surprising fact here in Thailand, you don't even need to go to school to get diploma's/certificates, a friend of mine works here in Pattaya and he has a paper from College for computer engineering. He doesn't even know how Windows works. Why? Cause he never went to school, he only pays each 3 months, actually he works in a restaurant now where you don't need papers but if he wants to work in some official shop or factory or Tesco or 7/11 or any international company they do need papers from college. Those jobs always pay better as they are restricted to the minimum wage of about 200 euro. Restaurants often pay better though cause of tips.
      I always wondered, what made you move to Thailand? And how do you like it there? And do you listen to Thaitanium? Lol
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        I always wondered, what made you move to Thailand? And how do you like it there? And do you listen to Thaitanium? Lol
        I moved in October last year when it was getting cold in Holland and I've been here about 14 years ago and never really had the chance to go back for a long holiday so thought I grab it while I can.

        Guess the good memories brought me back here.

        How I like it here? It varies, first I fell easily in love and got a bit sad when the "relationships" didn't last, no surprise really as I'm not the most handsome one while I did pick those, so it was all about money obviously.

        Right now I actually enjoy not being involved in some relationship.

        Being single in Thailand rocks as I love butterflying around a bit

        Sometimes I love to complain but actually I can admit that life's good
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        • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          I moved in October last year when it was getting cold in Holland and I've been here about 14 years ago and never really had the chance to go back for a long holiday so thought I grab it while I can.

          Guess the good memories brought me back here.

          How I like it here? It varies, first I fell easily in love and got a bit sad when the "relationships" didn't last, no surprise really as I'm not the most handsome one while I did pick those, so it was all about money obviously.

          Right now I actually enjoy not being involved in some relationship.

          Being single in Thailand rocks as I love butterflying around a bit

          Sometimes I love to complain but actually I can admit that life's good
          Woah 14 years ago. On your own? Or with your family? Do a lot of people from Thailand know about online marketing/SEO?

          Eh that's a dumb question. Not a lot of people in the United States know about SEO. Or they say they do when they really don't. "Oh yeah, I totally know SEO. That's where you post on Facebook and instagram right?"

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          • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            Woah 14 years ago. On your own? Or with your family? Do a lot of people from Thailand know about online marketing/SEO?


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            He was 25 years old 14 years ago. hardly a problem going abroad alone at that age.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            Woah 14 years ago. On your own? Or with your family? Do a lot of people from Thailand know about online marketing/SEO?

            Eh that's a dumb question. Not a lot of people in the United States know about SEO. Or they say they do when they really don't. "Oh yeah, I totally know SEO. That's where you post on Facebook and instagram right?"

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            Yeah on my own, I'm not in my twenties anymore lol.

            They have no clue what I'm doing, lately I had my hair cut and she asked me what I did and to keep it easy I said I do internet marketing, ranking websites in Google.

            Her response: Oh so you're a scammer?

            :confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              Yeah on my own, I'm not in my twenties anymore lol.

              They have no clue what I'm doing, lately I had my hair cut and she asked me what I did and to keep it easy I said I do internet marketing, ranking websites in Google.

              Her response: Oh so you're a scammer?

              :confused:
              She's thinking network marketing maybe.
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

                She's thinking network marketing maybe.
                I wrote something about MLM in my post and later on removed it again.

                Seems MLM is kind of a hot topic in Thailand/Phillipines and such, I had one client in the Phillipines who wanted to rank such thing and my landlord here in Thailand does MLM in Bangkok.

                Now that I mention Phillipines, there the people are much better in English and also more modern I have the idea somehow so perhaps in the future I'll move there and start an office there.

                Nothing wrong with Thailand but for my kind of business it's not much, and Pattaya is full of Russian people, not really my favorite.

                Sure I could move to Bangkok but I don't like that city, talking about traffic in LA, well for sure you'll hate Bangkok as well or even more

                One of the islands here in Thailand, yeah great but kind of isolated.

                Manilla or Cebu might be my next destination, I'm single again and in 6 months my rent contract ends here, then I go back to Holland for a couple of weeks/months in May so let's see after that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Forteam04
    if you want result for your seo you should hire agency otherwise freelancer with minimum investment, because you can find lot of cheep seo specialist in the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    I want to go out of the country. Los Angeles is killing me softly with all the traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author seomaster5
    I would like to hire Agency i have voted for it as well
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  • Profile picture of the author VijayD
    Both have their pro's and con's, when you hire a SEO agency you have the assurance of getting work done properly as the agency have a reputation to maintain whereas a freelancer is usually ready to work until you are completely satisfied because his only way of getting paid is by satisfying you, he might as well change that one bright pixel on right hand corner if you tell him to.

    Talking about content quality by SEO agency, I would like to say that many of the SEO agency usually outsource their content writing jobs to professional writers, most of the time they hire off shore partners who have English as their first language.

    Peace!
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  • Profile picture of the author PhilipSEO
    Guys and gals, Here's how I see the general case of the legitimate SEO freelancer vs the legitimate SEO agency. It's a bit of a "Zen" answer, if you'll permit.

    Any competent freelancer is a wannabe SEO agency, that's the only difference. (Otherwise he has no brains).

    And an agency was once a freelancer, but now has better means. This means, there's both brains AND means.

    He or she is not just there yet.

    This means that an agency has things that a freelancer does not have. And make no mistake, those things are valuable.

    People say that with an SEO agency you'll be paying 500% more. That's not necessarily true. Competition has some influence on pricing, and SEO is very competitive.

    Moreover, perhaps paradoxically, agencies are better positioned to discount their services than are freelancers, because agencies operate in bulk, which means lower costs-per-unit for them.

    Only agencies that have a great track record can afford to charge 500% more than the low end or the mid-range, and I tell you, a great track record can be worth a lot of value, a lot of money. It's not "nothing."

    A freelancer with a verifiable stellar record should become an SEO agency! It's a no-brainer.

    Therefore, the correct answer is (IMHO), is: unless the volume of work is small and is not expected to increase, hire a good agency, but try to get a freelancer price. You might not, but if you meet halfway that's not half bad.

    (I can't believe I'm giving you tips on how to negotiate with me, but ah well. And don't get your hopes up! )

    All that said, some caveats:
    1. An agency often has the luxury to pick and choose choose the kinds of business it wants. It may show flexibility. Freelancers are more eager to get small contracts, are more flexible, "will do anything." If your business is very small, you may be stuck with trying your chances with a freelancer. And there is also room in the market for specialty freelancers (geniuses at some specialized thing that they do extremely well, especially if it's the kind of thing that mainstream providers are unlikely to take on -- for example, this could be custom keyword analysis on a very large scale, or certain kinds of online competitive analysis, or whatever, such things can be worth a lot of money). This, however, is not a question of "hiring a freelancer," but one of hiring a specialist, a different matter.

    2. Caveat 2. Both agencies and freelancers strive to cut down their costs, but agencies are more efficient in it. When dealing with an agency, make sure they don't stick you with some low-lever employee who needs to "escalate" every time there's a problem. Try dealing either with the head honcho or with someone as close to him as you can get.

    Lastly, another thought for the original poster. Your poll results will simply reflect the number of freelancers vs agencies among us. I'll be up front: I'm an agency, so I voted for agencies. But I feel my reasons for believing this are rock-solid. Freelancers will keep harping on their lower price. But keep one thing in mind: they are not agencies, they are merely wannabe agencies.

    Just my 2 yen's worth, or whatever...
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  • Profile picture of the author Outsourcingbee
    I must be voting in favor of the SEO company But, we must also provide single chance to freelancers to prove their best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
    high quality SEO is pretty expensive.
    A lot of people forget this fact when they see a lot of cheap SEO packages offering almost overnight ranking guarantee :p.
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  • Profile picture of the author koubain
    Go for the company
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    I don't think I can based on the description or discussion. It depends so much on goals, client and the actual project at hand. I like @PhilipSEO's comment.

    If you can manage SEO on some level, roughly know what you need and/or want, and can manage outsourcing, freelancer might be a good choice. Just make sure you know what he/she is up to, and don't go for the cheapest price.

    If you need someone with resources to really dig in your business and industry, and perhaps come up with marketing ideas outside SEO, then definitely do get an agency.
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    • Profile picture of the author mainak
      I think you can go for a SEO company. Because SEO needs lots of effort of a group of person. It is not possible by a individual. If it is then it will take much more days than a experienced seo company.

      In SEO there are works like; content making, blog commenting, forum discussion, social media sharing, guest post writing, video promotion and etc. So all these works can not be done properly by a individual within a month.

      It is my point of view.

      Now you decide whether you want to go for a freelancer or a seo company.
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  • Profile picture of the author rahul14
    I would hire an SEO agency
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