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PR Update?

by PathofLeastResistance
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I know Matt said it wouldn't happen but I had a PR4 site earning me $90 in recurring linksales suddenly lose all its PR. Now I'm only making $50 on that domain.

Has anyone else seen a PR update? I'm wondering if this was just a manual review. It's still indexed with over 5K pages. It's weird.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    If you are using a toolbar plugin to check the PR, your IP might just have a block from Google. That happens sometimes. Check it on another site.

    It could have also lost its PR after a manual review. If you were selling links, that is a always a possibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdevpro
    Didn't notice any PR change yet. If you are relying upon Toolbar PR, then there could be a temporary glitch in the results. To verify, just try a few Online PR checker tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author PathofLeastResistance
      Well its not toolbar PR in the sense I'm looking at the TB, but the sources are probably the same. The PR has been gone for about a month now. I'm going to tack it up to a manual review, but I would have thought they would de-index me too. Oh well. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    There was a minor PR update about a month ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author editeur
      Google resets PR to 0 for sites which caught selling links. Not always, but quite often.
      It happens all the time in SAPE.
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      • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
        Originally Posted by editeur View Post

        Google resets PR to 0 for sites which caught selling links. Not always, but quite often.
        It happens all the time in SAPE.
        I am wondering how they determine if the link in a site is paid or not. Specially right now that many SEO practitioner used guest blogging as their main source of so called high quality backlink.
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        • Profile picture of the author BrianMI
          Guest blogging isn't buying links. Unless you actually pay someone for the link.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
          Originally Posted by edpudol1973 View Post

          I am wondering how they determine if the link in a site is paid or not. Specially right now that many SEO practitioner used guest blogging as their main source of so called high quality backlink.
          That was the same question brought up into my mind after reading the above replies. Because if the link is totally relevant to the niche and had a quality content then how they determine? Might be its their own second site on the same niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author Laubster
    Editeur is right. Google is devaluing sites now, versus in the past where they handed out dramatic penalties. Now they give you a slow death instead of taking you out immediately. Leads to more confusion that way. Sucks you lost the PR tho.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Sites caught selling links on a manual review quite often are de-indexed in addition to having their PR reset to 0. That is unless you have a high quality site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laubster
    I coincidentally checked some of the sites I was getting links from yesterday and they had dropped from PR5 to PR2. Further, every one of this guy's PR4 sites were dropped to zero. It wasn't a PR update, I think they just did another wave of devaluing sites selling links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    I read a case same like this and it was said by Matt cutts that the site was caught selling links in bulk, so when it was noticed they took the action.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by PathofLeastResistance View Post

    I know Matt said it wouldn't happen
    Matt never said a PR update would not happen.

    Google does not lower PR to 0 for selling links. They may lower
    PR, but why 0? Did you people just pick that number at random?
    That makes no sense.

    A true "resetting" of PR, which is a different story entirely, would
    be to make the site PR n/a. But even resetting makes no
    sense.

    A lot here make no sense.

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Matt never said a PR update would not happen.

      Google does not lower PR to 0 for selling links. They may lower
      PR, but why 0? Did you people just pick that number at random?
      That makes no sense.

      A true "resetting" of PR, which is a different story entirely, would
      be to make the site PR n/a. But even resetting makes no
      sense.

      A lot here make no sense.

      Paul
      Unfortunately that's EXACTLY what Google does. They visit the site and issue a manual penalty which reduces to the PR to 0. If they don't like the content, they also deindex the entire domain.

      This has been going on since May.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      A lot here make no sense.

      Paul
      Best example of that is your quiblings over words and phrases to no sensible point. Toolbar PR will not be updated this year. If they say its broken and they are not fixing it this year then there is no functional difference saying it will not be updated this year and yes if they tank you PR by manual action it can be considered "resetting". Its certainly not leaving it the way it is.

      BTW Oscar is furious you have taken over his garbage can.

      Unfortunately that's EXACTLY what Google does. They visit the site and issue a manual penalty which reduces to the PR to 0.
      Paul is confusing full deindexing with other penalties. Your Sites' PR can be lowered or it can be totally removed. In deindexing it will show N/A not zero
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  • Profile picture of the author johncarter123
    There is no PR update ths year...
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  • Profile picture of the author veekay31
    I have domains that dropped from pr2 to pr1 recently. Although these domains did have content, but were not updated for a long period.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    Thanks guys. This is a useful thread. I have been regularly reading 3 SEO forums, including WF and people are asking if there is a PR update recently. I guess with more inquiries about page rank and a sudden drop of ranking explains there has been a change or on-going change in page rank. Announced by Google or not, I would rather take caution from now on. Still best to always stick to 'manual' linkbuilding as much as possible.
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