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PR?

by homebasedmom
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How important is PR to a website? What does it do to your website? I'm sorry about the question, I just want know about it and make it clear to myself, so that I would be ready when I start doing IM. Thank you so much.
  • Profile picture of the author Jenie0109
    PR actually is not that important but it shows how a website is finely working around the net.. PR is base on the volume of backlinks you gained...
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish
      Not so much the volume of backlinks but the quality of backlinks.

      10 links from 10 PR9 website will be better than 1000 links from PR1 sites.

      Regular, unique content will also help your PR. I've seen sites with good PR that have less than 5 links from PR1/PR2 sites, the rest are PR(N/A) so good content is key.
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      • Profile picture of the author dburk
        Originally Posted by Devilfish View Post

        Not so much the volume of backlinks but the quality of backlinks.

        10 links from 10 PR9 website will be better than 1000 links from PR1 sites.

        Regular, unique content will also help your PR. I've seen sites with good PR that have less than 5 links from PR1/PR2 sites, the rest are PR(N/A) so good content is key.
        Hi Devilfish,

        I strongly disagree with your assertion that PR represents "quality of backlinks". PR or PageRank is strictly a quantitative value with no qualitative implcations. It merely measures link popularity, in other words, how many pages that directly or indirectly link to your page.

        A web page that has high PR is a page with a lot of direct or indirect links. If a high PR page links to your page, it indirectly links all those pages to your page. This is why higher PR pages pass more link juice, it's strictly based on quantity, not quality.

        The reason many high PR pages do not rank well on SERPs is because they lack quality, which is determined primarily by relevance. A high PR page that has poorly targeted traffic that isn't relevant to your backlink will send you little traffic and most of that traffic will be useless.

        Ask yourself which is better: a backlink that sends lots of targeted traffic that converts to sales, or a backlink that sends little traffic, that is poorly targeted and generates no sales, but has high PR?

        The search engines are well aware of these quality issues and weigh relevance as the prime factor in their algorithms. High PR pages pass lots of PR juice regardless of the quality or relevance of the linking page. Unfortunately, that PR your page receives doesn't do you much good if you don't get targeted traffic or higher SERP rankings.

        People who obsess over PR generally do so because they have confused cause and effect. PR is the effect, not the cause of effective promotion. If you simply attempt to manipulate PR, while bypassing sound promotional practices, you may end up with high PR, but poor sales.

        I believe it is financially unhealthy to focus on PR. Those that strut around with their PR held up high, like a peacock showing off their feathers, must be compensating for something. Could it be poor sales figures?
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    • Profile picture of the author Brett Topovski
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      Optimizing a website to increase Google PageRank is not as important as optimizing a website to get free search engine traffic.

      Below is a link to a post that I recently created with information about this topic.


      If you have any further questions, concerns, or comments, feel free to post them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      Originally Posted by Jenie0109 View Post

      PR actually is not that important but it shows how a website is finely working around the net.. PR is base on the volume of backlinks you gained...
      Nope wrong.. PR is definately NOT calculated by the number of backlinks.

      In fact after studying PR hard, I've found backlinks hamper your ability to gain it..

      It's all about site relevancy, your front page being relevant to all the other pages, interlinking and being an authority site.. i.e you everything is LSI, and interlinked where you are writing something very related to another page.
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      • Profile picture of the author dburk
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        In fact after studying PR hard, I've found backlinks hamper your ability to gain it..
        Hi Intrepreneur,

        That's a new one on me. Can you elaborate a little bit on how you came to this conclusion? :confused:
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        • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
          Originally Posted by dburk View Post

          Hi Intrepreneur,

          That's a new one on me. Can you elaborate a little bit on how you came to this conclusion? :confused:
          I'm currently having this debate in another thread.. My thread..

          Theres another thread here that has been made, I think it's called "Direct from Google" submitted by Nick's Traffic Tips.. There's a PR caluclation in there that sums up what I am saying..

          They do in a way hamper your ability to gain it.. I have the statisitcs to prove it :-) but anyroad, I think I found the real golden nuggets when it comes to SEO.. and have been climbing rankings ever since.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    @homebasedmom - I'm assuming that you are talking about building and profiting from sites monetized with Adsense? If so then don't even concern yourself with the PR of your site. Just focus on getting targeted traffic that will convert well for advertisers. Period.

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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish
      The quantity of links on the page also affects how much juice is passed.

      If your link is on a PR7 page with 300 other spammy links, its going to pass next to no juice. If your link is on a PR3 page with only 4 other links, you're going to get more juice passed from the PR3 page than from the PR7 page.

      And remember if the link is nofollow, it will be ignored for Google PR purposes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Agnel
    Hello,

    PR is important for getting links from other site to your site. It will help your website to get links from the other sites and PR depends upon the backlinks to your site. So build more backlinks for your site. Backlinks will help to increase your home page PR.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    I think the main point here is that if homebasedmom is looking to make money with Adsense sites she does not have to worry about PR of her site as a critical factor. You can have a PR4/5 site that gets virtually no traffic, for example so at the end of the day unless you are selling PR or are using an established property with PR already then it's pretty much a redundant consideration. In other words, people obsess over PR far too much and this is something homebasedmom should not be doing when starting out. My 2 cents

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  • Profile picture of the author affiliated survivor
    PR is dependent on the amount/quality of backlinks you have. Building backlinks is the same as building PR. You need backlinks to get to the first page. The only thing else you can do is writing content that needs only a small amount of backlinks to get there. But usually this kind of traffic is of lower quality and less in numbers. So instead of building more backlinks you have to write more content. More content, even if it needs only a few backlinks, also means making more backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amenda Jessera
    PR is very important to a web page. That brings traffic to that page automatically. I am sure that more PR will bring more guys to your site. However, there is right opposite case too, There are sites which is on TOP on google which PR is 0, but the site with PR5 is on 10th place, this is due to the keyword density and the anchor links for that (inbound links).
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  • Profile picture of the author QuadRider
    I think that PR is important and a lot of people would like a higher PR and higher PR links. But I also think that there are a lot of people who think that it is the END ALL BE ALL. Which it is not. I have seen people pass on link exchanges with related niches due to low PR. To me this sort of thing is silly.
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  • Profile picture of the author homebasedmom
    Thank you so much for the replies of this post, I will keep everything in mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobwilson37
    PR gives a valuation to your website. As the PR grows up, cos of your domain also grow. Many sites and organization consider PR first for rating a site.
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  • Profile picture of the author ppcfreelancer
    PR is very important as far as the popularity of your website is concern. Its tell you how popular is your website in the world wide web. The Pr also give you a idea of how your SEO on page and off page efforts are going on.
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    • Profile picture of the author TKO
      For those of you that say PR is not important have either

      -lost your high PR ranking

      - or don't have a high PR.

      I have a couple of PR 5 blogs in specific niches. When breaking news occurs in these niches I post about it and guess what, I always nearly rank number 1 for that post.

      Coincidence? I strongly doubt it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tazsolmarketing
    Pagerank is Google's way of ranking websites based on their importance. Pagerank calculation uses the traditional approach of assessing the importance of the work of an author. The importance of an author's work is assessed based on the number of times it is cited in other works and who cites them. If other important authors refer to a particular work then the importance of the cited work increases.. In scholarly circles, authors cited other work only when it has something good to contribute to their own work.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by tazsolmarketing View Post

      Pagerank is Google's way of ranking websites based on their importance. Pagerank calculation uses the traditional approach of assessing the importance of the work of an author. The importance of an author's work is assessed based on the number of times it is cited in other works and who cites them. If other important authors refer to a particular work then the importance of the cited work increases.. In scholarly circles, authors cited other work only when it has something good to contribute to their own work.
      Hi tazsolmarketing,

      You do a great job of describing the original ideal of Google's PageRank concept. However, much has changed since the original algorithm and PR plays an insignificant role in the SERP ranking. Too much PR manipulation has forced Google to alter their algorithm and today PR is no longer reliable in determining the importance of a page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian.expert
    Pagerank of a webpage is just number stars google assigns to your site pages, which is usually decided by a page's on page and offpage factors. It has nothing to do with generating traffic to your website, and infact one of the factors in page ranking is number of visitors visiting your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author bandonflyer
    I agree with the earlier comment of not worry about PR.

    Focus on building your site with quality and getting quality links back to it that are relevant. If you do that, PR will come naturally.

    It's weird how it happens too... I just noticed that several of my sites (more than 20) just "jumped" from PR0 to PR1, PR2 and even a PR3 -- all at once.

    I've never really worried about PR and still make money with many PR0 Adsense sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author techuse
    Well, I recently wrote an article if Pagerank helped blogging or not. Well, pagerank does help.

    You get higher SERPS, you get more traffic, you can more readers and there are many other advantages to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by techuse View Post

      Well, I recently wrote an article if Pagerank helped blogging or not. Well, pagerank does help.

      You get higher SERPS, you get more traffic, you can more readers and there are many other advantages to it.
      That is a common misconception, It's the SERP rankings along with backlinks that gets the traffic, the PR has almost no impact whatsoever. If you have any empirical evidence that backs up your opinion, please share!
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      • Profile picture of the author dmderoeck
        PR has been underestimated, I think even in this forum. Does it mean more traffic? No. Does it mean more revenue from direct sales? Probably not.

        However, if you consider PR is gauged and measured by the biggest and best SE in the world, you best pay attention to it at some level, especially as a way to measure your site long term. I honestly believe as the sheer number of websites continues to grow, it will mean even more than it does today. PR is already used to measure a number of things outside G, including the overall value of your site, advertising, etc.

        So, I do pay attention to PR. I certainly don't base everything on it nor do I loose sleep if I don't make my target every 3 or 4 months. However I do add PR as an important measurable that I consider as an indicator of the overall health and value of my site.
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